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C.C.ofAtlanta (Atlantaman)
Junior Member
Username: Atlantaman
Post Number: 229
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 12:51 am: | |
switched to Black ones with resistor/iridium plugs--works great |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 907
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 9:25 pm: | |
David F,
You win the whatever!!!
That's the thread i was thinking of. It has the aftermarket red extenders that meas ~2K Ohms.
Looks like you beat David H. by over 6 hours! |
C.C.ofAtlanta (Atlantaman)
Junior Member
Username: Atlantaman
Post Number: 218
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 8:32 pm: | |
Just for kicks I pulled the rear plug towers from my 308 4v motor and checked them..
1890 Ohm
2000
2740
3240
the fronts were
2100
2400
2000
2180
also had one old black one--it was .45 Ohm
Guess it is time for a new set
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david handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1111
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 1:10 pm: | |
I just posted to that thread, the resolution to my static problems on the AM radio was to replace the antenna. My stock, factory antenna was stuck in the extended position, when replaced, all the static issues on the AM radio went away. |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Junior Member
Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 229
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 6:38 am: | |
Verell,
I believe this is the thread you're thinking of: http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/256120/134699.html
...and David, as much as I'd like to post an inteligent answer, I'm at a loss for words (a first for me, no less...Sorry)
David |
david handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1107
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 11:59 pm: | |
BTW, the 328 specs a non resistor plug |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 899
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 9:30 pm: | |
Davids,
Re-read my post, you havent answered my question(heheh)... |
david handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1100
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 2:17 pm: | |
David,
in my previous 78 308 GTS (carb) it had black non-resistor extenders and standard plugs and I DID have mucho interference on both the AM radio and my FRS radio. I swapped to resistor plugs and no more problems.
Now on the 328, the extenders are non-resistor (red factory) AND the plugs are NGK non resistor EVX platinum, and surprise, no problems on AM radio or FRS radio...strange. But then the rest of the ignition system on a 328 is WAY different as well.d |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Junior Member
Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 226
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 6:24 am: | |
Well...David, you got me stumped on that scenario. How about: Non-resistor plugs + non-resistor extender = Noisey radio?
Verell, the mini plug extenders on the BB are typically 5K ohms (non-resistor plugs)... |
david handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1092
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 9:42 pm: | |
David,
Not so sure it is that simple. The plugs for the 328 are not spec'd as resistor, AND the extenders do not have any resistance either. Hmmmmm. :-) |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 894
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 8:56 pm: | |
Awwww, Geeeee, You went & took all the fun out of the debate... ;}
OK guys, this is a test:
Who can find the thread that says how much resistance there should be in a resistor extender? |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Junior Member
Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 225
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 2:41 pm: | |
Having been down this road before...I believe it to be very simple (modest, eh?) to determine the extender type (not color..as they may have changed through the years...)
Resistor plugs: No resistance in extender
Non-resistor plug: Resistance in the extender
Just my thoughts... |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 891
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 1:28 pm: | |
Hmm,
We kicked this one around a couple of times,
You're probably right, the most recent was probably more like a year ago. I'm too lazy to search the archives to check on it. |
david handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1091
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:15 pm: | |
Ah yes Verell, has it been that long? Seemed less than a year ago, since I just got my 328 when the discussion started, or did someone post the link from that discussion to the previous one? I don't know, but great fun... :-) |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 884
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 9:59 pm: | |
Most I can say is that my '82 Euro 308 GTS QV came with red extenders w/internal resistors.
When I asked about them on the FerrariList about 3 years ago, I was told that the Euro QVs came with them.
I disassembled 1 & posted photos in the F*Chat Tech Q&A & we had a merry long discussion.
Since I didn't get service records w/my car I can't prove they're original, but so far everything else has been.
I'm sorry, but I'd forgotten that we also decided that the 328 extenders did NOT have resistors. |
david handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1090
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 7:31 pm: | |
The original extenders in my 78 308 were a kind of tan color, maybe a faded original red or orange. I replaced them with black ones from T.Rutlands. |
Andrew A. Illes (Andyilles)
Junior Member
Username: Andyilles
Post Number: 142
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 7:28 pm: | |
I've worked on more than a few early Euro 308s, and all had black extenders. I don't even remember seeing red ones until the 328s showed up. Oh.. and they were 0 resistance. For whatever it's worth.
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david handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1072
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 5:13 pm: | |
The stock factory red extenders in my 328 had no resistance...
YES, the extenders can and do wear out and will crack and have holes burned through them. The early 75-79 extenders were known to be weak, and were usually upgraded during a major service according to my mechanic. |
C.C.ofAtlanta (Atlantaman)
Junior Member
Username: Atlantaman
Post Number: 216
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 4:29 pm: | |
Do these things ever wear out? I see stacks of them shipping out of TRutlands. |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 878
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 2:47 pm: | |
Black = no internal resistance
OEM Red = internal resistance
Aftermarket Red = ??? (I recently bought some new aftermarket red extenders that read 0 Ohms.)
328s and some Euro cars came with the red ones, the US Spec 308s all have black ones. |
Dave (Dave)
Member
Username: Dave
Post Number: 522
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 12:55 pm: | |
black |
Steve (Steve)
Member
Username: Steve
Post Number: 430
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 12:00 pm: | |
I am getting a few different answers and would like to know which is right. 77 308 GTB and I have the dark red spark plug extenders. What color extenders (some say red and some say black)were used on the 77 and are they resistance type or not. If so what is the ohm value they should be at. And last who has the best price and what is it $. |