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Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member
Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1266
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 5:55 pm: | |
I did not look to see that there are two Brians on this string. I was aiming my last question to Brian Stewart as to whether the OBD2 connector may have been hidden or what is the deal about some having the connector and some not. |
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Junior Member
Username: Kennedy
Post Number: 78
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 5:58 am: | |
Well, its certainly not readily visible without lying on your back with a flashlight... but that's true of most cars. But the Euros do have the OBD2 port. |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member
Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1247
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 5:18 pm: | |
Brian, is it possible that it was just placed in a place that is not readily visable or maybe it was a Grey Market car? Some of these damn connectors are hidden such as the Honda V6, and Fiero, behind the ashtray, or the Nissan Maxima with it on the right side of the heater outlet. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Junior Member
Username: Doody
Post Number: 164
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 5:04 pm: | |
the 355 has an accessible OBD2 port as well. i had my car state-inspected last week and we hooked up and voila.
doody. |
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Junior Member
Username: Kennedy
Post Number: 76
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 4:39 pm: | |
Actually, the 360 *does* have an easily accessible OBD2 port... and I know a mechanic that regularly uses a generic OBD2 reader to read the standard info off of it. Based on his experience, reading from the port should be reliable and not dangerous.
Whether they follow the same conventions for the *extras* that most other European and Asian makers do remains an open question.
It is true that most of the advanced diagnostic info needed for the 360 comes from a different port (SD2); and that specialized and hard-to-acquire equipment is required for that.
Brian
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Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member
Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1236
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 7:56 am: | |
This may be one reason that they have fought the grey market importation battle. If it puts them over their quota then they would have to comply with the same rules everyone else has to and they would loose their cushy service rip off. |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member
Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1235
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 6:13 am: | |
Talk about a sneaky way to keep you comming back to the Dealer. It must have cost them a fortune NOT to comply with the law since a system would have had to be designed or modified with a special data port just for them, not to mention the lobbying expense to add the clause in the law. |
Brian stewart (Eurocardoc)
Member
Username: Eurocardoc
Post Number: 271
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 11:16 pm: | |
Neither the 355 nor 360 has an accessible OBD2 portfor a generic reader. They can only be accessed via the Ferrari dealer software, not available anyway, anywhere, ask me how I know.
Manufacturers can pay a fine for each car in non compliance if the sales volume is below specific limits. |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member
Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1174
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 5:40 am: | |
There is a standard generic OBD 2 system that everyone is required to have since 1996 and must use standard terminology and data. There can also be the manufactures own system along side the generic OBD2 but I have found that the generic provides sufficient data to cure most problems. In other words any OBD2 tester is supposed to read standard data from ANY 1996 up car. This is a Federal requirement. |
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Junior Member
Username: Kennedy
Post Number: 66
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 9:58 pm: | |
Does Ferrari follow the OBD-II standard, or do they have their own variation? (Ford and GM do their own thing. Most Asian and Euro cars and Chrysler are all consistent.)
Is there much danger in hooking up to the OBD-II port in a 360? (I know some cars could easily be put into error state by OBD-II devices.)
Why do I ask? Because this data acquisition system looks very interesting: http://www.maxqdata.com/
Thoughts? Facts? Guesses?
Thanks,
Brian
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