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Neville Pugh (Nev_Pugh)
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2001 - 6:02 am:   

Tom, I'm coming to the same conclusion. Basically, what appears to have happened is actually as follows. About 7 or 8 years back (we've only been there a year) the house was extended. It used to be 3 bedroom, single garage, now it's 4 bed double garage. Now, when the cowboy builders did the job, it looks like they used the old soak away which USED to be to the right of the original garage, but is now under the new garage (in the UK it is illegal to put (relatively clean) rain water, from gutters and drains etc, into the main sewage system .... it has to go into a soak away, which is quite simply a 2m deep pit full of rubble and air space). So, instead of digging a new soak away, looks like they've used the old one, sent a pipe to it from the front of the house, then built the new (2nd) garage on top of it !!
What appears to have happened now is that either the soakaway has collapsed or silted up, either way the water isn't "soaking away" very fast at all (backing up the pipe, and then overflowing into the garage ....)

Rather than digging up the garage, I'm going to dig AWAY from the garage and build a new soakaway under the lawn, and block up the old one, but it means digging across the drive. Plus, of course, sods law says that the drive slopes down to the garage (which doesn't help the water problem) so this new soakaway will have to be about 3m deep instead ! (so it reaches the water table).

Oh well .... I, erm, wanted something to do over winter anyway !!! :-(

Nev
magoo (Magoo)
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 11:46 pm:   

No Herbert, I think he was the one who designed the 308 window mechanics.
TomD (Tifosi)
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 5:05 pm:   

not to get off of our favorite subject but why would you ever have an outside drain pipe go back under the house. To me this implies it is draining into the public sewer system - a no no where I live. drain out to the street not under the house. why spend the money on a new garage floor when worse case you get yourselve a new driveway with a pipe under it. Best case pay a couple of day labours to dig a trench along side the driveway and put in a pipe out to the street or a dry well away from the house.
Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 4:51 pm:   

The same guy yhat put your pipe in must be the one who put the heater hose in the rocker panel.
magoo (Magoo)
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 9:44 am:   

Nev, That's a bummer. I hope that guy tried to snake the pipe before he determined that it had collapsed. I can't imagine what would cause it to collapse unless your garage floor is showing signs of being unlevel or collapsing. Be sure before you start breaking concrete or whatever. BRGDS. MAGOO
Neville Pugh (Nev_Pugh)
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 6:57 am:   

Thanks for the info folks.

The ebay clock is different from mine, only slightly (e.g. the hands) but I'm a sad originality freak, so ..... :-)

Thanks for the contact, unfortunately I'm in the UK so that adds logistical problems, but it's certainly a possability if I get desperate !

Magoo, haven't tried your method yet coz I've been sidetracked somewhat .... it seems that the drain which takes water away from the front of my garage has decided to stop draining, as I came home the other day after hard rain to find my garage (and my baby !!!) 2 inch deep in standing water ! Had a drainage expert out who cheerfully reports that the problem is with the drain pipe which takes the water away from the grate along the front of the garage, which handily disappears under the garage floor (heading towards the back of the garage) ... it appears that the pipe has collapsed, so this means I've got to dig up all my concrete garage floor to replace the pipe, from the front to the back of the garage !!!! (and find somewhere to store the 308 whilst work is progressing).

Ulp !

Well, that's me busy for the next few weeks then ...

Nev
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2001 - 10:40 am:   

There is a guy at Dr. Honda(770.938.7281) that repairs Veglia gauges/clocks. He repaired the clock on my 330 GTC for $50.00. He is an ex-service manager from the Ferrari dealer in Atlanta. Give him a try. You can have it shipped for just a few dollars.
Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2001 - 8:34 am:   

Neville,
There's a Veglia clock for sale on ebay you might be interrested in. See

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596458246&r=0&t=0
magoo (Magoo)
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2001 - 11:21 pm:   

Nev, Were you able to get the ring off of the clock face successfully?
magoo (Magoo)
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 8:33 am:   

P.S. I didn't try it but maybe a "hardwood"[oak] wooden dowel from the hardware store may work if you can't find a nylon rod.
magoo (Magoo)
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 8:30 am:   

Nev, To make myself a little more clear it is a nylon rod which I used. I fashioned it out of 6 inch "nylon rod" a little smaller than 3/8 of a inch in diameter and tapered the end flat like a blunt screwdriver. Any material like that which is not metal and will not break easily will work.
Neville Pugh (Nev_Pugh)
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 2:54 am:   

Crumbs ! Thanks for that Magoo .... I'd already figured out the "dont use the screwdriver" bit, luckily before doing any damage :-)

I'll give the nylon cord trick a go ....

Thanks
Nev :-)
magoo (Magoo)
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 10:23 pm:   

Yep, Nev they are a •••••. I kept running a nylon rod at the edge of the ring working it between the the housing and the ring a little at a time until it popped off. It will eventually come off. Then I pressed it on by placing the ring on as far as I could get it and worked the rest of the ring on gently with the nylon rod while applying downward pressure on the face of the ring, being careful not to break the lens, until it popped on. Then I ran the nylon rod around the inner edge to press it tighter to the housing. Patience is the word to success. Careful, If you use a metal object such as a screwdriver you will bend and distort the ring. Work from the back only at the housing.
Neville Pugh (Nev_Pugh)
Posted on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 4:59 am:   

How do you take Veglia clocks apart ?!? (the chrome rimmed type, as found on late 70's 308's)

My clock works fine, but the time adjuster knob doesnt work, so I was going to take it apart to see if it was anything obvious that could be fixed.

But I have no idea how to open up the clock, without totally destroying the chrome outer trim ?!?

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