| Author | Message | ||
| Dav Lee (Leedcc)
New member Username: Leedcc Post Number: 24 Registered: 9-2002 |
JRV, Thank you for the valuable input. Unfortunately, I have always trusted the dealer to service the car...with good biz practice, well, what has been done, has been done. If i leave the flywheel repack till the next transimission job, will i experience major problems other than hot start issues ? I guess what I am trying to find out is...can I wait to service (repack) the flywheel? Many thanks regards, | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 2036 Registered: 11-2002 |
1- eventually the Flywheel will need to be repacked, if you can wait until a clutch job is needed you'll save all the disassembly labor vs doing things twice. 2- eventually the plastic snubbers inside can be ruined. 3- all the hoses and the fitting on head croosover pipe in the Valley should have been done at Major time as the Intake Manifold in it's entirety must be removed to do this operation properly. Any shop that doesn't explain the importance of this operation at the time of the Major is doing the customer a very large injustice imo. I include the Manifold removal all hose & pipe replacement in my Majors because I feel that strongly that it's mandatory for a quality job. The manifold removal and ALL Hoses renewal along with the Factory update crossover fitting is about 6-8 hours labor a few gaskits and about $60 worth of Million Mile Silicone Hose. So the expense is minor compared to repulling the engine asecond time. 4- Depends on the Dealers & Independents in your area. Go where you get the highest quality, conscientous service. Whoever did your belts and not the Factory Update in the vee while the engine was out did you a diservice imo. | ||
| Dav Lee (Leedcc)
New member Username: Leedcc Post Number: 23 Registered: 9-2002 |
Vincent, Thank you for the link and the valuable information. Are there problems other than warm start difficulties that could be associated with fly wheel needing repack or replacement ? On hoses, do we normally replace all regardless, or only the ones that leaks or hardened or ??? By the way, 80k miles is about 120K km, it is good to hear the 348 could last through the mileage and continue to pull for you... Regards, | ||
| Vincent (Vincent348)
Member Username: Vincent348 Post Number: 898 Registered: 4-2003 |
Dav, http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/112/252357.html?1058626442 All you want to know and more about the 348 FW. Vincent. | ||
| Vincent (Vincent348)
Member Username: Vincent348 Post Number: 897 Registered: 4-2003 |
Dav, The flywheel does need repacking onve in a while, but the parts themselves should last quite a while. Mine has 80K miles and once cleaned looked impeccable. If you are not having any ratlling at shutoff or startup, then you shouldn't have to worry. Repack the flywheel if you ever have a leak between the transmission and drive shaft. There are three pesky seals in there that occasionaly go bad and may allow gear oil to enter the FW. If you've had good luck where you're currently servicing the car then why change and worry. Todd, The owners manual has all the services, but basically after the 30K things repeat themselves until 60K. Apparently after 75k there is no longer need for service, the manual only goes that far. If you make it there you're home free.  Steve, LOL, I know more about the 348 FW than I ever thought I would as well. And have also learned more about GT4s, 308,328....love that tech section. Vincent. | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 902 Registered: 4-2002 |
"By the way, is 348 the only model plagued with the fly wheel issue?" The F355 uses the same dual mass flywheel with single plate clutch. I have (ahem) eaten one recently. | ||
| todd montandon (Sllade)
Junior Member Username: Sllade Post Number: 137 Registered: 7-2003 |
guys what is the next major service performed after the 30 tho. what all should it intail and approximately cost?Todd | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1972 Registered: 1-2001 |
(Maybe thankfully) my TR is the solid 1-piece flywheel design (don't know about the other models, but I'd guess not -- or there'd be more reports of trouble  ). Are you saying the recent clutch work didn't specifically include refreshing the flywheel/masses/springs/grease/etc.? Seems like a waste not to once you're in that deep... | ||
| Dav Lee (Leedcc)
New member Username: Leedcc Post Number: 22 Registered: 9-2002 |
steve, Thanks for the info and will do a search. I have only done 50000km, with clutch replaced 15 months ago, so, suppose is a bit early for complete flywheel replacement. By the way, is 348 the only model plagued with the fly wheel issue? what about TRs, or 355, 360 or 550 ? Regards | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1971 Registered: 1-2001 |
I don't want to stifle the discussion, but have you done a search on "348 flywheel" (and mode)? I don't even have a 348 and know more about that troublesome flywheel system than I want too (some real quality posts IMO with great jpegs). The system should be "rebuilt" which will include cleaning/regreasing, but also mechanical inspection of the various moving parts/springs (so you wouldn't replace the flywheel unless it had a mechanical problem/defect). I know you're in a tough spot (even here in the US 348 clutch/flywheel work is a few+$K biscuit for the Shops) and I don't want to seem unsympathic, but I think a 348 has regular flywheel-ectomies in it's future (seems something like 2 or 3 over 100K miles maybe -- anybody getting 50K miles before needing 348 flywheel work?). | ||
| Dav Lee (Leedcc)
New member Username: Leedcc Post Number: 21 Registered: 9-2002 |
Having completed the timing belt replacement including repacking all bearings late last year, the dealer informed that the flywheel needs to be replaced and all hoses should be replaced because of age and minor seepage after a recent mechanical. There is minor inconvenice in warm start, but other than that, I did not experience leaks or any other abnormalites. Appreciate all your comments on : 1. should the flywheel be replaced or repacked with grease? Cost of each ? 2. what are the major problems (other than warm start hassle) if the flywheel is not replaced or repacked? 3. if hoses are to be done, should ALL the hoses be replaced regardless ? Costs ? 4. should continue to service at dealer or go to independent? would i expect a 20% different in price (parts and labor) or less ? many thanks in advance for your valuable experiences and comments Regards |