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Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1994
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 8:42 pm: | |
I've never come across an alternative, easily-accessible UFI retail source in the US so I just use T.Rutlands for my UFI needs. |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Intermediate Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 1031
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 8:16 pm: | |
UFI - Universale Filter Italiano (sp).
Now, where's the obvious place to get one...
HINT: Yellow boxes w/black horseys... |
Jim Avery (Boxer12)
Junior Member
Username: Boxer12
Post Number: 113
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:23 pm: | |
Who supplies UFI? Truck dealer? |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1990
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 2:08 pm: | |
testarossa engine oil filter =
UFI 23 192 00 (a.k.a. F PN 124228) |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1988
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:18 am: | |
Only the (larger) UFI fits the TR (I can post the UFI and F PNs in a few hours). I inquired with Baldwin, and they didn't know if they had a TR equivalent (I've not gone to the next step and tried sending them a TR UFI oil filter example for comparison). Even on the UFI TR oil filter box where there's a small table printed for alternative manufacurers/PNs, it just says "none". |
Jim Avery (Boxer12)
Junior Member
Username: Boxer12
Post Number: 111
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 9:50 am: | |
OK, so what number fits the TR?? |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 1615
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 1:36 am: | |
Hey, they even fit a GT4. Until I discovered Baldwin, I was duct taping on toilet paper rolls. Which was OEM on the GT4. |
dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1448
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 1:32 am: | |
Henryk,
they will also fit the 308/328/Mondial and Daytona...and a few other cars with engines similar to the Daytona's.
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Henryk (Henryk)
Intermediate Member
Username: Henryk
Post Number: 1009
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:09 pm: | |
I bought these at a Kenworth truck dealer. They didn't stock the B253, so I had to order a case (12). The cost was $105 for the 12, or $8.75 per filter.........that is cheap.
However, the filter will ONLY fit the Boxer, and NOT the TR. |
Jim Avery (Boxer12)
Junior Member
Username: Boxer12
Post Number: 108
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:30 pm: | |
Every 6,500 miles?? That is only at the 30K/5yr service interval for most cars...
Hank, want to split a case of filters? Where do you get them?
Hey JRV, what about synthetics? More likely to get oil leaks if car used to natural? Do synthetics condition seals and so forth like petrol oil? |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 2103
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:29 pm: | |
<<the Ferrari manuals state every 6,500 miles.<<
That's based on using Agip Sint(blend)Oil, not on full fossil oil which potentially has more contaminates and is just a general recomendation based on oil life/use studies.
Changing both oil & filters at the same time is known as "cheap insurance".
Because we rarely send oil & filters for analysis it is simply easier to toss both at certian intervals to be on the safe side. |
Henryk (Henryk)
Intermediate Member
Username: Henryk
Post Number: 1006
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:17 pm: | |
JRV: I remember, a LONG time ago, when manufacturers recommended oil changes every X miles, and filter changes every 2X miles.......what happened? Are we changing our oil filters too soon?
Sounds like everyone seems to have to change the oil every 3,000 miles, yet, the Ferrari manuals state every 6,500 miles. Has the oil industry scared us, with a false sense of security, only to increase their profits? That is what it seems like to me. How can a modern engine require MORE filter changes than an "OLD" engine? |
Jim Avery (Boxer12)
Junior Member
Username: Boxer12
Post Number: 105
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:07 pm: | |
JRV, that is a nifty bit of trivia there, dude! |
Jim Avery (Boxer12)
Junior Member
Username: Boxer12
Post Number: 104
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:05 pm: | |
They call it "sludge," don't they? Most of the metal particles should get caught up by the magnet on the oil plug. What is it? The only thing that I can think of is ash or carbon. |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 2102
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:05 pm: | |
>>I would still like to know what "specific" particles clog up an oil filter in general<<
Many Oils are "Filtered" thru Clay, which is the sediment found in the bottom of an oil pan.
In your case I wouldn't worry about the filter . It's still working just as well as it was before you removed it. |
Henryk (Henryk)
Intermediate Member
Username: Henryk
Post Number: 1005
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 9:50 pm: | |
Dave: While I agree with you, I would still like to know what "specific" particles clog up an oil filter in general, to the extent that the oil must go the by-pass route....assuming no metal flakes. |
dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1443
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 9:38 pm: | |
Why not just change the filter next week when you can get one, and not sweat this? Whatever minute amount of dirty oil in the old filter that somehow gets into the stream, could hardly significantly contaminate 11 quarts of oil. Even if the filter is completely clogged and goes on bypass, you could hardly hurt anything in a week's worth of driving; unless you are heading to Florida. :-) |
Henryk (Henryk)
Intermediate Member
Username: Henryk
Post Number: 1004
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 9:12 pm: | |
I just bought a case (12) of Baldwin B253 oil filters......used two to change the oil in my Boxer....NO problem.
Then I changed the oil in my TR, thinking the Baldwin filter would also fit......WRONG.....the threaded hole in the filter is too small for the TR. I already drained all the oil, and had no new filter.....would have to wait till next week to get one......can't leave the TR sit that long. So I drained the old oil from the filter, and re-installed it. Stupid???????
I was wondering, what actually clogs up an oil filter to such an extent, that it can't be re-used? If it is metal flakes from the lower end of the engine, then, one is heading for a disaster regardless of how often one changes the filter.......that would be a REAL problem. Can one assume that whatever clogs the filter, through normal use, excluding metal fragments, that the whole oil filter becomes clogged, after only 5K miles?....keep in mind that the TR uses about 11 quarts of oil, vs 5 for any American 5L engine.
I will change the oil sooner, due to my error......3K miles, instead of 5K miles......but, what am I missing?
Thanks
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