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Jeff Howe (Ferrari_uk)
Member Username: Ferrari_uk
Post Number: 493 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 3:36 am: | |
James... The 119392/119393 rims I have quoted for are OE metric rims and are: Fronts, 180 TR 415 and Rears, 210 TR 415. $2011 for a set of new Original Boxer rims.... Cheers. |
DaveE (Banzaiboxr)
Junior Member Username: Banzaiboxr
Post Number: 194 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 6:51 pm: | |
$79.00 WOW! How about a group deal and get the price down to around $49.99 each. I need a extra set. |
Brian Keegan (4redude)
Junior Member Username: 4redude
Post Number: 140 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 6:22 pm: | |
Jeff, David, James, we have had these trim rings (101233) reproduced. I have over a dozen on the shelf right now. http://www.ferraripartsexchange.com/wheel%20accessories.htm We offer a discount to FOC, FCA, and F-Chat members. FYI |
Phil Hughes (Ferrarifixer)
New member Username: Ferrarifixer
Post Number: 44 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 5:47 pm: | |
To get the trim rings off, you need to lift ONLY from deep inside, right at the point where the ring is tight on the hub centre. I welded small "heels" on one of my bars to gain leverage at precisely the right spot. That way, the only deflection is from the thickness of your lever bar, which the ring can easily withstand without permanent damage. BUT, if the rings are available for that $40 US stated earlier, that's a bargain compared to the whole day of labour it can take to get off and refit the originals. |
James Selevan (Jselevan)
Member Username: Jselevan
Post Number: 692 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 5:29 pm: | |
Jeff Howe - the prices you quote for the Boxer wheels, are those for the metric size (the wider wheels)? Thanks. Jim S. |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 2189 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 10:46 am: | |
>>To be very candid, I find securing parts easier now than it was 10-15 years ago....now that you guys have come "on board"! << AHMEN TO THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!! Hell of a lot cheaper also !!!! Here in the states it was long thought that Ferrari parts were like Dead Men...one to a box...now low and behold we find out there are spares !!!! { } |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Member Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 275 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 10:13 am: | |
Jeff, I'll take you up on that job offer, really! With 20+ years of "naviagating" through the Ferarri parts system, and the determination to get ALL the parts I could even need for my 365BB...I'd be more than honored to hehp you guys maintain my dream....as well as the needs of all the other F-car owners here in the States... To be very candid, I find securing parts easier now than it was 10-15 years ago....now that you guys have come "on board"! Regards, David |
Jeff Howe (Ferrari_uk)
Member Username: Ferrari_uk
Post Number: 490 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 9:14 am: | |
David - thanks for that ! Wanna job ?! It is a good number but we are out of stock. We're having them made but no ETA. |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Member Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 274 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 7:12 am: | |
Jeff and James, The PN for the trim ring is 101233. The last set I puchased was packaged on yellow cardboard, with lots of prancing horsies printed in the background. OE, for sure... Under the trim ring, Jeff, are locking tabs and nuts which secure the bolts you show in your wheel photos... David
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Jeff Howe (Ferrari_uk)
Member Username: Ferrari_uk
Post Number: 489 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 6:11 am: | |
HI all. James - I can see where you're coming from. There are no sub-components for these wheels listed anywhere that I can see. I don't envy you this one. What can you see when you undo the bolts on the reverse and remove the spline ? Is there any better access to the back of the stainless plate without them - or do you need the plate off inorder to remove the spline ? If you repaint them you will lose the writing which is painted on on ours... I guess you could buy brand new Original wheels instead !!! Only $408 for the front and $597 for each rear ! Tricky...
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James Selevan (Jselevan)
Member Username: Jselevan
Post Number: 688 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 8:19 pm: | |
JRV - thanks for the technical info. I will swing the caliber out of the way by removing the bracket that supports the flexible/metal brake line junction (the bracket is attached to the swing arm, I believe). That should allow enough freedom of movement without damaging the metal brake lines. David - great help. I was quoted somewhat more than that from a questionable source. I await a call back from two sources. If not found, I will contact you. There is no part number in the book, as it is described as part of the wheel. Someone should make these - they do not look too difficult to reproduce. Jim S. |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Member Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 272 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 8:13 pm: | |
James, I have tried, on numerous occassions, to remove the centre trim rings on my BB without damage... Done the hot/cold, thin blade, patience routine... Seem they always look a bit wavey by the time you're done. Long and short...they are still available through Ferrari and some of the vendors. PN is not readily listed, but I've got it somewhere, if you need it. I bought 8 of those rings less than a year ago when I did my BBS wheel conversion...Trim rings were less than $40/each. Regards, David |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 2185 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 7:37 pm: | |
Hi James, The caliper comes off to do a shock replacement. Then if you compress the shock/spring with a compressor tool the shock just slips in the upper notch. Trying to compress the spring without scratching it is the hard part. If you don't have a tool or are afraid of scrathing newly painted parts drop the lower control arm enough to give you room to slip the upper shock mount in place. |
James Selevan (Jselevan)
Member Username: Jselevan
Post Number: 687 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 6:54 pm: | |
JRV- question for you. When removing the rear shocks, there was clearance issues with the aft shock on each side (two shocks on each wheel - I am referring to the rear most shock). Specifically, once the upper shock mounting bolt was removed, and the lower nut removed, there was insufficient clearance to swing the shock outward - the shock hit the brake caliber. One could pry the lower shock mount rearward on the bolt halfway, and then twist the upper shock mount to muscle it out. In so doing, the threads on the bolt scar the lower shock bushing. This was not a problem in removing as I am installing new shocks and bushings. However, when reinstalling, I do not want to scar the bushing. Do you have to swing the caliber out of the way, or take out the lower stub axle bolt to swing the stub axle (wheel hub) out of the way? Or can one install the most aft shock absorber without removing any of these parts? Your help is greatly appreciated. Jim S. |
James Selevan (Jselevan)
Member Username: Jselevan
Post Number: 686 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 6:42 pm: | |
Great help - I appreciate the input. Dave - I have gotten several quotes. It seems that American Wheel in Stanton knows what they are doing, according to the formula that you and I heard Bill G. speak of (mixing clear coat in paint - applying decal - semigloss clear coat after). They want $109 per wheel. I can find less costly quotes, but without the confidence. I have the car in the air. I have taken the entire dash and instrument panel out to be recovered. Looks great. The wheels and shocks and springs are off. I am stripping and painting the springs, installing new Konis, new tires (Michelen TRX as per original equipment), and restoring the wheels. More to come. Jim S. |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 2184 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 6:37 pm: | |
Phil, I've heard that. But I don't believe it. Can you post some pics of "a set of 4" you removed with your method. Thanks |
Phil Hughes (Ferrarifixer)
New member Username: Ferrarifixer
Post Number: 42 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 6:29 pm: | |
It is possible to get them off without damage. You need to use smooth edged tyre levers and a WHOLE LOT OF PATIENCE. They're just a press fit onto the centre sleeve, so start with a very cold wheel (freezer if poss) and carefully use a hot air gun around the edge while lifting. It IS A PAIN IN THE ARSE OF A JOB, and unless you really need to get them off, you are better off just doing a nice paint job. If you do take them off, a soft press tool (plastic/nylon) makes a good re-fit job. |
DaveE (Banzaiboxr)
Junior Member Username: Banzaiboxr
Post Number: 191 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 5:09 pm: | |
Jim, what is the going price to paint your wheels? |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 2183 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 5:06 pm: | |
I've never seen a set removed without bending them. The answer is to meticulously tape around and paint or remove and replace with new. Used ones that have been removed then striaghtened look really bad. |
James Selevan (Jselevan)
Member Username: Jselevan
Post Number: 685 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 4:57 pm: | |
I am in the process of painting my Boxer wheels. To do the job correctly, I want to remove the polished center stainless steel plate that is set around the hub. Has anyone removed this plate without bending or crimping it? How does one remove it? Help is greatly appreciated. Jim Selevan |