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Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 863
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 1:38 pm: | |
Again, you can find these combo swithes from a Fiat parts source. |
Kenneth Brealey (Krbrealey)
New member
Username: Krbrealey
Post Number: 10
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 12:58 pm: | |
John,
As I recall George Evans at Evans Automotive in Columbus, OH is either working on a replacement switch, or already has them. You might want to contact him and see if he has what you need. George knows his Ferraris, he won't steer you wrong. Evans Automotive number is 614-471-7535, have website: Evansauto.com
Good Luck. |
Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
Junior Member
Username: Bill308
Post Number: 208
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 5:55 pm: | |
Steve and other DIY'ers,
Sometime making your own tool works and sometimes it doesn't. When I had to rebuild my rear axle, I made a socket, from a Craftsman 1-3/8 socket, which is what I had on hand. Now granted, this was not of Snapon quality, but was still pretty good quality. The modified socket didn't fit great, alignment was a problem. It worked for disassembly, but when trying to torque it to 22 kg-m (158 ft-lbs) torque, one of the fingers sheared off making the socket unuseable. In the end, I bought the Baum tools socket. This socket didn't fit into the axle flange enough to engage the nut. I machined the tool on a bench grinder enough to ensure solid engagement with nut and made it work. The moral is, if you have the time to experimement, give it a try. Also, the Baum tools are probably not as good as good as the Ferrari tools as far as fitness for purpose.
For the steering column nut, I've been able to make arrangements to borrow the proper socket. The nut in question requires 14 kg-m (101 ft-lbs) of torque, so the possiblility of a home made socket working is questionable. I want the car on the road this month. Time is a consideration. |
Steve (Steve)
Junior Member
Username: Steve
Post Number: 150
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 4:21 pm: | |
Bill all I did was take a cheap socket and grind it to fit the special nut. Works fine. |
Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
Junior Member
Username: Bill308
Post Number: 207
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 1:20 pm: | |
Thanks for the info Sam.
The steering column socket is available from Baum Tools for $81.44 plus shipping at this URL:
http://www.baumtools.com/english/specialtools.cfm?mk=FERRARI
It seems like such a waste to spend $100 on a tool and only use it maybe 1 or 2 times. Wouldn't it be great, if we had a pool of specialized Ferrari tools that we could borrow from? |
Sam NYCFERRARIS (Sam)
Member
Username: Sam
Post Number: 333
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 12:32 pm: | |
OK, I have been through thsi one...firstly, protect the "combo switch" with your life..the plastic is old and very brittle. You ca not get a replacement, T rutlands has a guy in Seattle ( i think) that is retired and rebuilds them but you need to send Ted your core. Watch out there are a few around from GT-4's that were turned into a track car...Firstly they are silver stalks ( nobiggie youpaint them) BUT 1) they are not cheap and 2) they are older than yours 3) they are NOT a direct replacement ..you will spend weeks trying to get the wiring connections figured out (not plug and play) ther are not fiat replacements and even a maserati merak which is same but not plug/play will cost you much more.
I wound up buying a GT-4 switch in europe for hundreds and then canabalized it for parts I needed to repair my stalk...a real expensive pain in the butt. the nut to remocve the steering wheel is availableon teh internet from some tool supply comany..mentioned here a while ago, I manufactured one form a regular socket by grinding it back to make the "fingers" worked well! |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
New member
Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 23
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 10:45 pm: | |
Bill,
I've got the socket for the steering wheel nut...as well as "all" of the special sockets for those 4-notch nuts that are used on Ferraris. No charge to use, just a 360 Modena, as collateral??
As to the switch partially not working, pardon the sarcasim...but so what else is new with these switches. The one on my 365BB periodically looses the high beam function, just in time for state inspection. Although a real pain (on the BB) to "pull" the wiring through the cover..the switch repair typically is a bit of contact cleaner here and there...or emory cloth on the contacts (after disassembly).
David |
Terry Springer (Tspringer)
New member
Username: Tspringer
Post Number: 39
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 9:30 pm: | |
$600?? $1,000 ???? are folks insane?
I would just wire the headlights to a different switch (Japanese or a toggle switch) that I hide under the dash somewhere, repair the broken one with crazy glue and let it sit there for looks. Same for any of the other switches. Either replace it with a similar switch that will work, or mount another switch somewhere unobtrusive but functional.
If there are folks out there paying $1K for switches... I may have to contact an injection molding company about running off some reproductions!
Terry |
Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
Junior Member
Username: Bill308
Post Number: 206
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 9:09 pm: | |
John,
My 78 308 has a problem with the left turn signal switch so I started calling around. T. Rutlands told me they have some rebuilt units for about $600. In my case, I think its just some dirty contacts, so I'll try repair it first. Anybody got the correct socket for the steering wheel for sale? |
John Bicsak (Funshipone)
Junior Member
Username: Funshipone
Post Number: 62
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 9:02 pm: | |
I thank every one for their in put for the black plastic cover that covers the switch, but I got the best call today from my local Ferrari repair garage who normally is very reasonable on prices for repairs. They told me the whole stalk assembly had to be sent some where and it would cost $1000.00 to repair. All I am looking for is a new black plastic cover that has a arrow and a light symbol on the cover. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 846
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 3:17 pm: | |
Most all of the Ferrrai switchgear is from the Fiat parts bin. I'm sure you can find it from Fiat, Lancia or Alfa. In fact, when I had my 328GTS I repaced a burnt out a/c switch on the console with a Fiat part. It was exactly the same. |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
New member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 12
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 3:01 pm: | |
Couple of things:
1. Is the switch on a 308GT4 the same as the later GTB/GTS cars?
2. Is there any suggested preventative maintenance recommended? |
Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
Member
Username: Owens84qv
Post Number: 344
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 10:58 am: | |
There was one on Ebay just the other day...Saturday maybe? |
Edward G. Salla (350hpmondial)
Junior Member
Username: 350hpmondial
Post Number: 121
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 10:59 pm: | |
saw one on ebay about 3 months ago.
Also, depending on which part of the switch is broken. (I'm assuming the clamp part) You can drill two 1/32" holes in the edge of each half, then "stitch" the parts together with 1/32" stainless steel lock-wire.
(email me if this makes no sense)
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Kelly J. Vince (Tifosi1)
Junior Member
Username: Tifosi1
Post Number: 217
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 10:10 am: | |
Frank,
You mean you are actually on Ferrair Chat. That's it your out of the Ferrari CLUB!!!
Good to hear from you Frank.
My good news is I have not heard anything from the Ferrari Club. HAHA |
Frank Foster (Sparta49)
New member
Username: Sparta49
Post Number: 20
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 7:02 am: | |
They are no longer available from Ferrari . Try calling GT Car Parts and see of Bill can rebuild yours. 623-780-2200. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 644
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 6:49 am: | |
love that sarcasm |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member
Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1250
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 9:33 pm: | |
I have never tried to locate one but every time it is mentioned it is suggested that you just junk the car if it breaks due to the scarcity of the switch. Whether this is true, I do not know. I protect mine with my life though. |
John Bicsak (Funshipone)
Junior Member
Username: Funshipone
Post Number: 58
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 9:13 pm: | |
Has anyone replaced Head Light Switch. My switch is not working corrrectly all the time. The plastic cover has a small crack and is loose.Where can I buy a new switch and plastic cover any help would be appreciated. |