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Paul Newman (Newman)
Junior Member
Username: Newman
Post Number: 162
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 8:04 pm: | |
I dont think volvo will have the right ones for the 4 valve. Try BMW as well. They have shims for the 2 valves, didnt check about the 4 valve size. |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
New member
Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 18
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 6:20 am: | |
Simon,
Here are the specs you're looking for:
2-valve shims (Fiat), 33mm in diameter, thickness range from 3.05 to 4.65mm
4-valve shims (Volvo?), 29mm in diameter, same thickness range as Fiat.
Please note that some suppliers/vendors may have thicker, or thinner shims available to them. In my years of experience working on Ferrari engines, most will utilize a shim in the range of 3.65 to 4.15mm. Hope this helps.
David |
Simon Campbell (Simonc)
New member
Username: Simonc
Post Number: 11
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 5:13 am: | |
Can someone measure the Volvo/Fiat shims for diameter and thickness and post the details here. I realise the thickness changes but a ballpark figure so we can see if they should be 5mm or 50mm is what I mean. Then I could see if they will fit my 400's V12 also. |
Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
Member
Username: Caribe
Post Number: 293
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 11:18 pm: | |
Great news! Thanks for the information Ben. By the way, I will be picking peoples brain really soon as I embark on a home-made major TR service. I purchased the parts from T.Rutlands today, and I will start building a cradle to place the subframe this weekend. I got the freon extracted today as well. I anticipate actual engine removal work starting sometime next week (or sooner if the cradle construction goes fast). |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
New member
Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 17
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 11:08 pm: | |
The 2-valve cars use Fiat shims...4-valve shims are smaller in diameter...so Volvo shims will/should do the trick.
BTW...I've got a set of 4-valve shims...80% complete, with a few used shims, as well. Drop me a note if anyone is interested...$125, or so. |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member
Username: Benjet
Post Number: 585
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 10:51 pm: | |
Arnaldo,
Again Fiat or Volvo, as told to me by the F Dealer tech as he was putting mine in.
-Ben |
Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
Member
Username: Caribe
Post Number: 290
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 10:35 pm: | |
Does anybody know of a similar match for Testarossa valve shims? |
Paul Newman (Newman)
Junior Member
Username: Newman
Post Number: 161
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 1:30 pm: | |
Ferrari quoted me $20 cdn each. I picked up the volvo ones today for $3.74 cdn each. Didnt need all 16, swapped a few around as well, just flipped them over. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 698
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 11:47 am: | |
Paul -- some previous discussion if you're interested:
http://server.ferrarichat.com/~ferrari/ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/112/6545.html
Without getting too specific, who quoted the $20 each? -- an authorized dealer? (Although I'd probably go the Volvo/Fiat route, my recollection was that valve shims were a ~$5 part from the non-dealer F part suppliers.) |
Jeff 77 GTB (Jbk)
Junior Member
Username: Jbk
Post Number: 81
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 11:26 am: | |
Go to Baylessfiat.com. You can get them for a couple of bucks apiece. Same ones as in the fiat spyders. |
Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
New member
Username: Lawrence
Post Number: 5
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 7:40 am: | |
On my 328 I was able to play musical valve shims. I switched them about so that as many clearances as possible were within specification. Then I bought only what was needed. The original shims were not the same size so it worked out well. This may be obvious but my fingers need typing exercise this morning. |
Edward G. Salla (350hpmondial)
Junior Member
Username: 350hpmondial
Post Number: 120
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 10:39 pm: | |
Ha ha , yesss.
Thanks paul for the tip, I'm getting ready to do this job. |
Paul Newman (Newman)
Junior Member
Username: Newman
Post Number: 157
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 10:07 pm: | |
During the reassembly of my 2 valve 308 engine, I found I had to adjust almost all of the valves slightly. I priced the Ferarri ones - $20 each, BMW M5 (which are the same) $12 each and finally I noticed one of mine had VOLVO stamped on the edge. $5 each and plenty in stock at the volvo dealer in town! Just thought I would pass that on. |