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Brian stewart (Eurocardoc)
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 9:56 pm: | |
I was told that the 348 could change belts by dropping the fuel tanks, it is a job that you would need to be experienced with or a trained OB/GYN. Scared me, I do it the factory shop manual way, less chance of mistakes. |
Martin (Miami348ts)
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 11:29 am: | |
Frank,
as in most cases you have to remove and replace the tensioner as well I do not see how that can be done without the engine out on our cars.
My tensioners were done. The bearings were rattling already. Think preventive maintenance and do the pump every 30 as well, while you'r at it.
It sounds to me like a half ass job. Something somebody does to save him the last $500 before he sells the car and loads lots of probelms to somebody else. Dan West had a car like that where everything had to be redone. They probably did not get the engine out either.
From my car I can tell you that I saw how much they were working on that side of the engine and not making enough room there certainly does not help. You probably end up not doing things you should be doing. |
Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 4:52 am: | |
I have a hard time to believe that a pull, change and install can be done in 4 hours. I mean, there is a lot of acessories that need to be disconnected, a/c, oil cooler, coolant hoses, wiring, fuel lines, cables, exhaust, hood off/on and more. All this has to be connected again and some of the things needs adjustment after refitting. To this comes the actual changing of the belts.
Your suggestion that the 4 hours are with the engine already out sounds a lot more like real world to me. |
Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 5:12 pm: | |
Kurt,
I have a 308, but suspect changing the belts on a 348 takes four hours, not including pulling the engine. The four hours should include removal and reinstallation of the valve covers, necessary to ensure the cams are timed properly, gaining access to the cam drive gear, re-tensioning the belts, and replacing the drive gear covers. Again on a 308, if the timing doesn't work out just right with the initial belt installation, you can spend a lot of time screwing around with the cam drive gear getting it just right. This is also a good time to check the valve clearances. This process can be very time consuming, especially if you have to rectify a number of them. Time, to a large extent, is dependent on how fussy you are and how lucky you are in performing these iterative steps. Bill |
BretM (Bretm)
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 9:00 am: | |
That's what the dealers tell you about the 308 at least. Granted they've done it a thousand times, have lifts that go 20 feet in the air, and every tool known to Ferrari man sitting right next to where they're working. As far as the average guy I'd be interested in seeing someone do it in 4 hours. As compared to a lot of other high performance cars, the 308 seems to be a relatively easy engine pull. |
Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 7:58 am: | |
Bret, do you mean pull the engine, change the belts and install the engine in 4 hours? |
BretM (Bretm)
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2001 - 3:10 pm: | |
I know on the 308/328 the timing belt change doesn't require an engine pull, but the estimate time (as per the dealership) required to do the job is 4 hours with an engine pull but 8 hours with it in the car. Sometimes the long way turns out to be the short one in actuality. |
1989 328 GTS (Vilamoura2002)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 3:57 am: | |
Of course engine does not need to be removed.
On 328 if you remove right tank, won't be necessary to remove the AC. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
| | Posted on Friday, November 02, 2001 - 10:47 am: | |
The 328 doesn't require engine or fuel tank removal to change the cam belts. |
1989 328 GTS (Vilamoura2002)
| | Posted on Friday, November 02, 2001 - 10:30 am: | |
I know that works fine on the 328 but on 348 I am not sure. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
| | Posted on Friday, November 02, 2001 - 10:13 am: | |
I heard that some Ferrari mechanics can change the cam belt on a 348 by dropping the fuel tank instead of the engine. This should cost a lot less. What do you guys think ? |
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