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magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2711
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 11:20 pm: | |
Frank, I agree with you. |
Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
Member
Username: Caribe
Post Number: 299
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 10:57 pm: | |
I also agree with Frank. My Testarossa has over 20K miles now with original clutch and it feels great. |
J. Grande (Jay)
Member
Username: Jay
Post Number: 357
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 5:23 pm: | |
Frank, I tend to agree with you. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 877
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 5:04 pm: | |
While I have heard that Ferrari cluthes are weak, I have never had to replace one on any of the five Ferraris I have owned. I drive mine hard and have driven many laps at Road Atlanta, Robeling Road and Taladaga GP track with my cars. I have averaged over 20K miles on each Ferrari I have owned with NO clutch problem whatsoever. I think a lot of people either abuse them or don't know how to drive a manual. |
James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member
Username: Jamesh
Post Number: 76
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 12:42 am: | |
Thanks Ben, I will pass on any info I get. |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member
Username: Benjet
Post Number: 603
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 11:45 pm: | |
JamesH -
As I haven't had a need to do it yet, I didn't have the info to provide for you handy, but I have asked others locally that I know have done it to contact you with info. I'll be gone for a few days, but I'm certain they will get the info to you. Let us know the progress.
-Ben |
dr. ibrahim m. ibrahim (Coachi)
New member
Username: Coachi
Post Number: 7
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 9:38 pm: | |
I had to replace my 1986 TR clutch at 8000 miles, and it waited too long... almost got myself killed getting it to the shop in Atlanta. Ferrari clutches are awful, and I agree, everyone should look for a better replacement. I have had to replace a clutch on every Ferrari I have ever owned, and it appears they last about 10,000 miles if you're lucky. |
James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member
Username: Jamesh
Post Number: 74
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 8:15 pm: | |
Jay----Dont know if its the stock clutch but with only 17,000 on it I just assume it was the stock clutch.
Ben----Where can I go to get my clutch rebuilt. |
J. Grande (Jay)
Member
Username: Jay
Post Number: 355
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 5:18 pm: | |
James, are you sure it is a stock clutch in there? Stock is an AP Borge and Beck unit from England. The one G. Evans sells is a Valeo unit which is aftermarket. I've talked to several people who have all said that the aftermarket and resurfaced clutches are not as smooth as the AP original. I have to put a new clutch in and will go with the AP. Clutch wear depends on how hard you drive...riding the clutch for example will kill anything that goes in, Kevlar or not. |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member
Username: Benjet
Post Number: 599
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 3:52 pm: | |
There are a few places in the bay area that will rebuild your clutch (and get you new bearings as well) in Kevlar, no matter what car it came out of. Price incl. bearings and resurfacing flywheel ~$500. This is a bargain for some local classic exotic owners (Lambo, etc.) who have been paying ~$2k for the factory clutch kit. This is without a doubt the way I will go when the time comes for mine. Lasts 3x as long as stock clutches.
-Ben
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James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member
Username: Jamesh
Post Number: 71
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 3:49 pm: | |
Hi Greg,
Does George Evans also carry the kevlar clutch and how do I get ahold of him.
Steve,
I havent taken it apart yet but notice the clutch feels weak when I drove it to the body shop this morning. Its not slipping yet, but doesnt engage till the very end of the pedal. It had been serviced and adjusted so it shouldnt be an adjustmant problem. I am just assuming the stock clutches in Ferrari's are bad because it seems so many people have replaced their clutches after only about 20k to 30k on them. |
Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member
Username: Joechristmas
Post Number: 282
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 3:19 pm: | |
George Evans has them for $275 I think. There is a kevlar clutch available for the 308 that has to be custom ordered. It will last a very very long time. I doubt you will wear it out. I think it is about $500. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 706
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 3:04 pm: | |
James -- what is "fast"? Are you saying that you've already disassembled things and the failure mode is a direct wear out of the clutch disc friction material? |
James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member
Username: Jamesh
Post Number: 70
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 2:53 pm: | |
OK, I am going to need a new clutch on my 84 Euro 308. I want to make sure what I put back in is going to last longer than the ones that come with the car. Does anyone make a high performance replacement clutch set for the 308. Should the flywheel be resurfaced even if it looks ok?
Since we are on the subject of clutches, why is it the stock clutches go out so fast. Is the pressure plate too weak and causes the disc to slip more than normal, thus burning it and wearing it out. Is the disc made of inferior material and wears out faster than normal. Any thoughts out there. |