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Erik Lombard (Elombard)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 6:48 am: | |
I agree with robert, I much prefer the looks of the euros' especially when they have the deep front spoiler. I also prefer the drysump. From what I have seen the parts appear to be available but thats not from experience. I also feel like the euro cars are as God and Enzo intended! |
Robert Davis (H2oquick)
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 6:23 pm: | |
I have a 82 308 gtbi euro, and love it. I do not have many of the problems my friend has with glitches on his US version 308...(Maybe just lucky I guess)...also when looking for parts I find it easier, especially on exhaust and tune up parts. I have bought several items off ebay and never have to worry about being outbidded. I think the euro with its fiberglass bumpers, color matched louvers and no ugly exhaut grille set it away from the other 308's. Also mine has the cool rear autobahn light. As far as resale, I have had more interest in people wanting my car because it was a euro spec. It has no emissions, no conversions and no paperwork. The guy who had the car brought it here from Brazil to Florida. I have had no problems with insuring it either at a replacement value of 35,000. U.S. |
Richelson (Richelson)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 19, 2002 - 11:25 am: | |
Yes, I would try to get a US spec car with good records. |
Anthony Acunzo (Yank05)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 19, 2002 - 11:23 am: | |
Erik, thank you very much for your warning! I did not speak with them yet, but if the car has no records it's out of the question for me, especially if it is a Euro with no records. The other '76 in Hemmings is a U.S. spec glass car, wet sump. There were both Euro and US versions of the glass cars in '76. All U.S. cars were wet sump.
Thank You,
Anthony |
Erik Lombard (Elombard)
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 9:30 pm: | |
Anthony
The 308 drysump for sale in Texas is not Glass. Also, several people I talked to warned me about that company. I would be very thorough before you buy. This will be difficult since the car is over from europe and has no records available?? I would still buy if the price was right but alas, IMHO it is not. I am not sure about the other Glass 76 GTB in Hemmings I dont know if it is drysump. It seems like I have seen Glass B's advertised as "US" cars. I always thought that meant Wet sump. |
Anthony Acunzo (Yank05)
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 6:45 pm: | |
Thanks for the input everyone! Hey Dave, there is a beautiful '76 glass Euro 308, dry sump, advertised in Hemmings right now - That's why I brought up this topic!
Thank You,
Anthony |
David Jones (Dave)
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 6:33 pm: | |
When I purchased my 77 308 GTB (US) model,
I had been looking for a good example of a 76 glass GTB (Euro) dry-sump car.
The couple I found for sale at the time were in bad shape so I passed them by. Not that there's anything wrong with my 77, I just wish I had held out and found a nice example of the Euro 76 308.
From the showroom floor, they were the fastest 308 produced. Gearing was different, H.P. was higher, weight was much less, no smog.
And exempt from probably every state's smog testing because of it's age.
I have been thinking lately about some of the low cost testarossa'a in Europe, if cost wise it would make sense to buy one and have it shipped? |
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 2:14 pm: | |
I don't think people should worry about Euro/US cars with the early 308's. Most of these cars are now considered "Vintage" and exempt from alot of testing/inspecting/etc... Parts avaliablity will be the same for all versions.
It only makes a difference for new cars and we are all aware of what's happening now. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 12:42 pm: | |
I love the Euro style front chin spoiler for the 308. |
Richelson (Richelson)
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 11:13 am: | |
I think that Steve is right. I would get a US spec car though. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 11:00 am: | |
I recall someone mentioning that the US 308GTB and all of the 308GTS are wet sumped and that only the standard (Euro) GTB are dry sumped. |
Neville Pugh (Nev_Pugh)
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2002 - 10:15 am: | |
I thought all carb GTB's were dry sumped ? |
Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2002 - 12:27 pm: | |
As Mitchel mentioned, I also love the look of the Euro front end. I also agree that someone would be hard pressed to notice much of the perceived performance advantage. I do love my car because the population of imported Euro 308s must be pretty small, e.g. "it's unique"!
Here's a list of the differences for my Euro 84 QV:
- No louvered exhaust shield
- Euro style (recessed) bumpers
- Body colored front (radiator) louvers
- Euro (sculpted rectangular) mirrors with enamel Ferrari shields
- Natural aluminum finish front grill
- No catalytic converter warning lights
- Clear and orange front side indicator lights mounted in front bumper
- Small spare tire
- Lighter in weight: 2956 lbs (Euro) versus 3220 lbs (U.S.)
- Additional horsepower: 255 (Euro) versus 240 (U.S)
- Different dear ratios
- Different electronic ignition timing
- Different (larger) fuel capacity
Again, I love the uniqueness! |
Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2002 - 12:09 pm: | |
I have a euro 328 and it was imported properly but without cat converters. This car can only be sold into areas of the country with no emission inspections unless they are fitted. Even so, there are changes to the engine -- no air pump and other smog equipment that may cause it to fail the tests...
My 328 is actually rated at 270HP which is 10HP higher than the US version. |
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2002 - 11:31 am: | |
Well, at this point, the Euro 308 has probably been titled in the US, so that won't be a problem. There are very minor exterior differences between the 2 cars. I'd be hard pressed to find THAT much performance differences though. Usually a Euro car will be about 3-5K cheaper than a US car.
If you buy a fiberglass 76 GTB, it will be a dry sump. I know a few 77 Euro GTBS were dry sump too.
One thing about the Euro 308s that I love, the recessed bumpers and the wonderful grill with the fog lights. |
Anthony Acunzo (Yank05)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2002 - 11:09 am: | |
Assuming a Euro 308 has all it's paper work(DOT,EPA papers,etc...) are there any disadvantages of owning one? It seems like the resale is a bit lower but when it comes to performance and appearance, I am tempted to include them in my search for a carbed 308. What about the dry-sump versions? Any advantages/disadvantages? Should I just stick with U.S. spec just to be "safe"?
Thank you in advance for any input,
Anthony |
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