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James Angle (Angleman)
New member
Username: Angleman
Post Number: 3
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 6:25 pm: | |
Thanks.
When I get back to the states, I'll see what happens.
I'm in Qatar now. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2825
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 3:24 pm: | |
Thank you Barry, Everybody adds a little bit here and there and we usually come up with the answer. That's what the forum is about. Regards, |
Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Junior Member
Username: 308gtb
Post Number: 109
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 1:50 pm: | |
I just wanted to make a little comment here. After following this discussion board for about a half year now, it's so apparent that when it comes to Ferraris, Magoo sure knows his fecal matter!
Thank you for all your assistance, Magoo. |
bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
New member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 33
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 10:03 am: | |
I went all the way down to North Carolina for this one. I bought my gtsi locally.I bought my first Ferrari 10 years ago from Long Island. I live outside of Quakertown. I know of about 4 cars in area for sale now. There was 1 injected car outside of Atlantic City. I did not see it. If interested I will track down phone numbers for you. |
James Angle (Angleman)
New member
Username: Angleman
Post Number: 2
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 8:29 pm: | |
Bruno,
Also where did you buy the car from?
I'm very interested in the 308, but I don't know of anyone close to the area that has one.
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James Angle (Angleman)
New member
Username: Angleman
Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 8:14 pm: | |
What part of Philly are you from? |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2817
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 7:02 pm: | |
Glad Ya got her fixed Bruno, |
bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
New member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 25
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 9:38 am: | |
They do seem to be providing a little extra pop. I am not sure why. Hotter spark? With the old 25 year old coils I guess anything would have been better., The accell coils are "super coils". I did not read up on why they are called that and if they are indeed enhanced performance wise. I,ll read through the paperwork and let you know if I find something of interest. The car runs great. |
Don Norton (Litig8r)
Junior Member
Username: Litig8r
Post Number: 71
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 04, 2002 - 11:15 pm: | |
What benefits did you notice (if any) from the Accel coils? Aside from fixing the immediate problem of course. |
bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
New member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 20
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 04, 2002 - 10:17 pm: | |
Car is fixed. Did coils and fuse repairs. Drove car 11/2 hours at all speeds and conditions. O.K. Brought home put old coils in and drove. acted up again . It was the coils.MANY THANKS MAGOO!!!!!!!!!!!! |
bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
New member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 12
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 4:03 pm: | |
doing coils and fuse repair now. wont get chance to drive car till end of week. will let you know If it fixes the problem. Put 1 coil in fits great. Store only had 1 getting another tomorrow. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2816
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 11:16 pm: | |
Bruno I have had the coils almost 2 yrs now. The answer to your other questions is yes a good hook up same as orig. |
bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
New member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 8
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 9:06 pm: | |
Magoo, How long have you been running the coils and do they fit and wire in the same bracket assy. |
bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
New member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 7
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 9:04 pm: | |
I am also considering (although I hate to go without it) removing the entire air cleaner assy. Top and bottom and driving the car for and hour or so to see if that gets it.I figure it will allow more cooling for fuel lines around carbs and possible prevent vapor locks? Still quite stumped. |
bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
New member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 6
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 8:58 pm: | |
I know it seems the re-start after 1-2 minutes is strange for coils. I wonder "vapor lock" because the fuel lines do lay on and cross over the manifold in several areas. All the fuel lines were replaced by the Ferrari dealer before I bought the car. I suppose one could be routed to close to a heat source now. I will still try fuse repair and coils. Not much else I can do. Car does run strong until it gets good and hot after extended drive. It never over heats the temps are good on both oil and water. It just starts to spit backfire and loose power. as if timing was way off or running out of gas.About 500 miles ago both distributors were rebuilt and bench tested and set by Ferrari dealer. All points,caps,rotors etc. are new. I could get in car now it is 70 degrees outside and drive at least a half and hour with out missing a beat. I hate intermittent problems!!! |
Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
Junior Member
Username: Bill308
Post Number: 242
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 10:50 am: | |
Bruno,
A few minutes is not enough time for the coils to cool down. Think in terms of half to one hour, for anything more than a few degrees cooling. |
Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
Junior Member
Username: Kurtk328
Post Number: 116
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 9:54 am: | |
If the car starts OK after a few minutes of rest will that be sufficient time for the coils to cool down?
Also if it goes back to running normally after this "drive 45 min. - shutdown - wait a few minutes" exercise it must be something other than the coils.
I guess they would act up again quite quickly.
Could it be vacuum in the fuel tank building up? |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2814
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 12:23 am: | |
Bruno, I installed a set of Accell 8140 coils on my 79 308 GTS and have been very pleased with them. Pep boys or other auto stores have them. About $30.00 bucks a piece. |
bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
New member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 4
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 8:59 pm: | |
going to try fuse fix and then coils. anyone know where coils can be obtained cheaply. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2812
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 10:40 am: | |
Steve and Brian, Great tips I had forgotten about the disscussions we had RE: the fuse panel. Also a possibility. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 749
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 8:42 am: | |
bruno -- As part of "checking the fuseholder" like Brian s. suggested, you might want to consider adding some auxillary wiring to more surely connect the top input terminals of the #1, #2, and #3 fuses together (+12V power comes in the large azure wire on the top of fuse #2 and then is supposed to be jumpered by the fuseblock over to the top of fuse #1 where the yellow wire leaves to run the ignition system). This might not be your problem (i.e., the fuseblock heating up and a loss of connection between the azure and yellow wire), but it wouldn't hurt any 308GTB/S to add this wiring modification for reliabilty IMO. Here's some previous discussion:
http://server.ferrarichat.com/~ferrari/ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/112/1470.html |
Brian stewart (Eurocardoc)
Member
Username: Eurocardoc
Post Number: 308
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 6:20 am: | |
Check the fuel filter, gascap, fuel pump FUSE and fuseholder, then the fuel pump. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2810
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 12:10 am: | |
I can't imagine vapor lock but the only other thing I could think of along the fuel problem is possibly a fuel pump binding when hot and shutting down. It sounds like electrical to me though. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2808
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 11:44 pm: | |
Because coils when they are going bad will break down under a hot load. Your call, Just my opinion, |
bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
New member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 11:36 pm: | |
Possible. Why only when hot? |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2806
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 11:18 pm: | |
I would think the coil or coils are heating up and breaking down when hot. I wouldn't fool with one I would install both. |
bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
New member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 2
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 11:02 pm: | |
I have a 1978 308 gtb. It runs like a horse until after about 45 minutes or so when oil temp is 205 or so and water is about 195 or so. it starts to spit and backfire like it wants to stall (running out of gas) or (way out of time). I pull over turn car off wait couple minutes start back up and problem is usually gone. Any ideals. I am thinking vapor lock??? solutions,suggestions welcome. |