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Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Junior Member
Username: Coachi
Post Number: 56
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 5:22 pm: | |
no, steve I did not. Is there a difference? which is the correct one? |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 819
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 3:56 pm: | |
Coach -- Glad it worked out for you. Did you ever get a clarification about the continuous current rating (30A or 175A) of the switch? |
Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Junior Member
Username: Coachi
Post Number: 55
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 02, 2002 - 3:03 pm: | |
Steve, I installed the curtoff switch from racerparts on the front right side front hood compartment right beside the headlight bucket..easiest disconnect there is...turn the switch one way and then the other...works like a charm, takes only a couple of seconds...love it.. |
Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
New member
Username: Coachi
Post Number: 45
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 9:36 am: | |
another great idea magoo...thanks a lot. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2885
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 7:48 pm: | |
Put a switch in line of those fuel pump switch wires and you can use it as a theft deterrent cut off of fuel. |
Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
New member
Username: Coachi
Post Number: 43
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 9:30 am: | |
yes magoo, i know all about that switch under the seat... I finally got tired of it and shorted it. I is hard to work on the car when each time you left it, it would cut off the fuel pumps... i simply wired the two wires together bypassing the switch. Thanks for the post |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2882
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 1:42 pm: | |
Coachi, I have a orig. 79 308 GTS. The car doesn't have the switch and the owners manual doesn't show one. There was a fuel pump tape switch located in the drivers seat which kept the pump running as long as you were sitting on the seat. That was it as far as I know. |
Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
New member
Username: Coachi
Post Number: 42
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 12:18 pm: | |
I don't think tha carburetted versions of the 308 had a quick disconnect. I have looked and will continue to look for such a device on the car. I have a boxer (it is an 83 model) and it does not have one but the 86 TR that I have does. If anyone knows if a 79 308 has a factory installed disconnect switch, I would love to know where. Thanks for the input everyone. I have ordered the switch and when the installation is complete I will report. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2876
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 15, 2002 - 4:12 pm: | |
Bruno, As long as there is no connection from the battery neg terminal to the frame nothing else can short out the positive side. The only way is to cross the two terminals. |
bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
Junior Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 97
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, June 15, 2002 - 11:46 am: | |
The neg. is certainaly good enough for anti theft and short term storage. As far as I know the battery can still drain throught he positive over time. Also a short of anykind to ground from a positive lead should also cause battery to drain into ground.JMO.I still have nightmare images of walking into a buddies garage to see his Trans am and as we opened the door a funny smell was present and as we looked the car melted inside out from what we believe was a mouse chewing on wires ( as after inspection we found lots of mice damage) causing a short.I guess the best winter storage suggestion is empty gas and remove battery completly.I will try to fing some pics I had of this terrible sight. But brace yourself. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2871
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 14, 2002 - 10:49 pm: | |
Bruno The neg. is the one you want to disconnect. That's all you need to break the circuit. |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Junior Member
Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 148
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 14, 2002 - 9:59 pm: | |
That's what I have. It has a big red one-way connector. I thought they all had this. Look for this on yours, Coachi, before you buy one. |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Junior Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 133
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 14, 2002 - 9:26 pm: | |
STOCK QUICK DISCONNECT
My '82 Euro 308 GTS QV has a quick disconnect down low on the left side of the spare tire well. It's a heavy plug that you pull off of a terminal. My owner's manual calls it a 'switch'. Took me a while to track it down. Very handy when working on the car, or when the car's going to be sitting up for a while. |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Junior Member
Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 146
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 14, 2002 - 9:08 am: | |
My 84 308 has a quick disconnect below the left fender. I assumed it was factory. Does anyone else have one of these on their QVs? |
bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
Junior Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 79
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 6:52 pm: | |
I think I like your fix the best MAGOO. What about doing both terminals? |
bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
Junior Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 78
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 6:48 pm: | |
The problem with trickle charges are if you store the car over winter lets say and you get a short (mice,deterioration,etc) you might come back to a pile of ash.I have seen it happen.And thankfully it wasnt a Ferrari. |
Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Junior Member
Username: Tork1966
Post Number: 161
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 6:44 pm: | |
I bought one of those trickle chargers that I connected to the battery terminals and stuck it to the side of the battery with the 2 sided tape provided. The cord on the trickle charger is just long enough to reach the little access hole on the passenger side bottom of the front spoiler. When I park the car, I then reach underneath it and grab the cord through the hole and connect it to an extension cord. These things are awesome and only about $20.00. Jerry. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2862
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 6:35 pm: | |
Coachi, Actually I used the orig neg. cable and went under the spare tire well and up next to the horn compressor where I mounted the switch on a homemade bracket. Then another cable,SAME SIZE AS ORIG, came off the other side of the switch and went under the spare tire well to the frame ground lug. The second cable I bought was about the same length as the orig. maybe just a inch or two longer. The length will depend on where you want to install it but I think the way I set mine up is the best way for it to be out of site and the easiest installation. If you like you can email me for more info. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Username: 91tr
Post Number: 775
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 3:34 pm: | |
Coach i -- another possibilty for you if you're looking for a non-post-mounted disconnect approach:
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/rebco5.htm
(Although the specs aren't very clear -- is it 175A continuous or 30A continuous?)
Alternatively, the stock TR (or any later model) non-post battery disconnect could be used. |
Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
New member
Username: Coachi
Post Number: 41
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 3:17 pm: | |
after some research, I found one site that sells the battery quick disconnects for 10 and 14 dollars shipping included, try www.antiqueautobattery.com |
Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Junior Member
Username: 308gtb
Post Number: 119
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 1:54 pm: | |
A battery terminal cut-off knob or one mounted in the spare wheel well, as Magoo suggests, would do the trick. |
Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
New member
Username: Coachi
Post Number: 40
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 11:42 am: | |
I use the quick battery disconnect on one of my older Ferraris because the battery is easily accessible at the side of the engine compartment. First question, where on the internet can you look up and purchase these disconnects and on the 308, how long does the cable need to be to bring it to the disconnect mounted where magoo suggested... thanks |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2860
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 9:28 am: | |
Bruno, I did this modification to my 308 and it works great. In fact I use it on my other collectible cars as well. |
John Ames (Ameshouse)
Junior Member
Username: Ameshouse
Post Number: 52
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 9:24 am: | |
The parts manual on my 80 GTSi indicates that there is a switch on the battery cable to disconnect the battery. Mine, however, has been changed to one without it.
In my antique cars we use a battery switch that is mounted on the firewall that you just turn off when you are not using the car. They are available from all Model A Ford suppliers and probably J C Whitney. It would require drilling a hole somewhere to mount it, but would be a lot easier that getting to the battery. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2859
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 9:23 am: | |
Dr. There is a universal "HEAVY DUTY" battery switch which operates with a key. You can leave the key in it or remove it for security. They are found in Pep boys and other auto stores. Marine parts sometimes carry them also. You disconnect the orig. neg. battery cable from the ground on the frame and run it to one side of the switch, you may have to get a longer cable depending where you mount the switch, then run a cable from the other side of the switch back to the frame ground. BE SURE TO USE THE SAME SIZE CABLE TO RUN THIS CONNECTION. Then you can mount the switch in a place of your choice. In the area of the horn compressor, on 308s, along side the rt frt fender is a good place to mount it. That way you can leave the battery door on and spare tire in place. Just cut off and on as you wish. |
bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
Junior Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 68
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 9:09 am: | |
Great question. I use the spare cause I do drive my car over 100 miles from home time to time. I would love a disconnect somewhere easily reached. Not just to prevent battery drain and protect from shorts leaving car in ashes, but on the rare occasions when the car is out of my sight, anti-theft. |
Don Norton (Litig8r)
Junior Member
Username: Litig8r
Post Number: 73
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 8:52 am: | |
On my '78 308, I don't use a spare and the battery door is off the car. I have a screw-type quick disconnect on one of the battery terminals, and if it's going to sit for a day or more I just disconnect the one battery cable. Simple and works like a charm. |
Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
New member
Username: Coachi
Post Number: 39
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 8:22 am: | |
I would appreciate any suggestions for installing a quick battery disconnect that is easily accessible on a 308 (or any other Ferrari where the battery is not easily accessible). You either drive without the spare or have to take it out each time you need to disconnect the battery. Thanks. |