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magoo (Magoo)
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Post Number: 2894
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 11:31 pm:   

Robert, You are referring to the forward bank behind the seats. With all the info. given here I don't think anything else can be added except for you to try it. Once you use your fingers as your eyes you will find it to be a piece of cake. Regards,
Mitchell Minh Le (Yelcab1)
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Post Number: 188
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 11:18 pm:   

Certainly use a torque wrench. I did not have a whole lot of problem with access on the GT4. It is a bit awkward from the side though.

Robert McNair (Rrm)
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Post Number: 90
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 8:02 pm:   

Greg, I was referring to the plugs farthest away from you if you are standing facing the engine. Aluminum heads make me nervous as I can be a bit of a bam-bam, the rubber hose is a good idea.
Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
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Username: Owens84qv

Post Number: 434
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 5:43 pm:   

Having a 10" extension on the rear bank (rear of the car) makes that process much much easier also. Robert, I think you meant to ask (now that I read the thread a second time...) about changing the plugs on the front bank...correct?
Terry Springer (Tspringer)
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Username: Tspringer

Post Number: 97
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 4:58 pm:   

No biggie, I use a swivel jointed plug socket with a 4" extension and a little palm ratchet. Insert the plug socket and extension in the hole, attached the palm ratchet and there is plenty of room. When installing I just tighten as hard as I can with the palm ratchet and figure thats tight enough. Not worried about stripping anything since you really cant get that much leverage on such a short ratchet. I dont think doing the front bank is any tougher than the rear really. I guess the only thing to watch is making sure you dont chip the paint on the engine cover when reaching in and out.
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member
Username: Irfgt

Post Number: 1500
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 4:42 pm:   

Always stop turning a bolt 1/2 turn before it breaks off and you will never go wrong.
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
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Username: 4re_gt4

Post Number: 38
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 3:13 pm:   

I've not found it necessary to use a swivel joint, but instead I have a couple of short extensions. Since I use a torque wrench to tighten, a swivel can be a little awkward.

First I insert the spark plug socket w/ a short extension into the hole. Then insert another extension. Then apply the rachet. After practicing with the first plug, it becomes quite fast and easy. The trick is finding two extensions of exactly the right length. (I'm at work, the tools are at home, otherwise I'd tell you what I use.)

BTW, being totally paranoid about stripping gawd-awful expensive Ferrari heads, I use a torque wrench. In my old Corvette days (iron heads), you simply tightened until the socket broke <grin>.
Brian stewart (Eurocardoc)
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Username: Eurocardoc

Post Number: 327
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 6:22 am:   

Hint: use a short piece of rubber hose to put in the new plugs, you are sure not to get it wrong by crossthreading that way, then tightendown with the socket.
Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
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Username: Owens84qv

Post Number: 433
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 6:14 am:   

Using your spark plug socket, get a 3" u-joint/-swivel attachment for your socket set plus a 4" straight extension. This is a "GO SLOW" procedure. Contort your body in the most aweful and awkward position possible. Snake the socket, u-joint, and 4" extension into the hole containing the spark plug. Attach the socket wrench and loosen the plug. Remove the socket wrench and loosen completely by hand.

Insertion of the new plug is a reversal of the above. Not using the socket wrench, load the new spark plug into the socket, attach the u-joint, attach the 4" extension, and snake the assembly into hole to seat the plug. When the plug is hand tight, attach the socket wrench and tighten one-quarter turn.
C. Smith (Italianauto)
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Username: Italianauto

Post Number: 96
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 9:01 pm:   

In your original tool kit is a neat little u-jointed wrench that sneaks down into the plug holes for the forward bank of cylinders...you use it with a 14 mm wrench....takes some time, but really not that big of a deal. No access from the interior.
Robert McNair (Rrm)
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Username: Rrm

Post Number: 88
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 8:51 pm:   

I wanted to know how difficult it is to remove the plugs in the rear bank. Is there access from the interior like the Mondial? I was looking at Paul Newmans engine out pics he posted and I also looked last time I saw a 308 and it looks difficult, would it be doable for a novice or best left to a profesional?TIA This is for a 308gtsiqv

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