| Author | Message | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Junior Member Username: Jay Post Number: 231 Registered: 10-2001 |
I bought a huge metal pan and filled it with varsol. Then I used a stiff rounded paint brush and various size brass brushes to get it all off. The varsol would just drip back into the pan. Worked much better than water based cleaners. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 1559 Registered: 12-2000 |
I hear ya Jay, I too had things covered in grime, which thankfully preserved the parts. Yes frame tubes covered in thick oily goo... What cleaner are you using? Like many other people here, I had success using Simple Green. | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Junior Member Username: Jay Post Number: 230 Registered: 10-2001 |
Peter, looking good. I'm in the process of doing the same thing...for different reasons. I just removed the fuel tanks and am replacing every single rubber hose on the car. I also removed every nut, screw, mounting bracket...anything on the fire wall and in the engine bay...sending it all out to be replated. I know you wont see half of it but you might as well while you're there, and it looks great when your done. How were your frame rails? Mine had 25 years of mud, oil and grime on it. So far I've spent about 20 hours cleaning. The good thing is all that oil protected everything...no rust! Post more photos. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 1552 Registered: 12-2000 |
Having the gas tanks out, then removing the aluminum panel in front of it makes things easier. Plus there is a small panel in the front wheel-well that you should remove, as when I replaced mine, the hose always hung-up on the sharp bend.  The cavity revealed with the tank and panel off:  The access in the front, driver's side wheel well:  | ||
| Paul Sloan (Sloan83qv)
Junior Member Username: Sloan83qv Post Number: 214 Registered: 3-2001 |
Below is a previous post that will help. All 308's have a heater hose and a brake vacuum hose that run through frame on Drivers side and the 2 AC hoses on Passenger side. Dina, Glad to help out.... 1) Ok to plug temporarily- also shut off the heater valve control at the cockpit (assuming it is working) 3) Really helps with two people -one to push on the new hose , one to pull it .. what you do is get a small piece of pipe that you use to interconnect the old hose and the new one so as you pull out the old hose the new one gets threded in ---however... it is not htat ez since near the gas tanks... just out of reach... are clips that hold the heater hoses to the body... you need to loosen these 2)Here is some information regarding heater hoses. Ok, I'm looking at Tav 16 in the 308 parts book, here are the sizes for all the hoses: 14 left, 14 right, 55, 57, - 12 mm id hose, I used 1/2 inch, .028 too big but the hose clamps takes up the extra amount by placing the hose clamp over the large (expanded) part of the fitting, Gates heaterhose 41(upper and lower), 50, 66 - 16 mm id hose, I used 5/8", gatesheaterhose Lengths:14 left - 28.5"14 right - 28.5"55 - 16.75"57 - 35" 41(upper and lower), 50, 66 - 12" total You might want to get about 14' of the brake booster line, you might want to do replace this at the same time but not required obvioulsy. > On a 85 GTS US Spec, the 5/8" heater hose from the engine to > the front of the car is ~12'.> > The other 5/8" heater hose goes from the return "t" fitting from the > heater boxes and goes down, behind the battery to the return line > from the radiator(passenger side lower corner of the radiator). > measured ~6.5' Do you have a parts manual for your car? If you have a Euro 308 QV - it may be a little different The Euro parts book Tav 16, and the two 5/8" heater hoses mention above are numbers 39 and 48. There are also a bunch of shorter heater hoses in the diagram, including 55, 41,66, 50, and 14. Are all of these 5/8" also. You should look at the car, and pull the panel near the spare tire to look at these hoses. In the diagram, some of them have 90 degree bends (well, at least 55 does), but I bet they are all just flexible heater hose. > I would strongly recommend ordering a few extra feet of the heater > hose. I assumed 14' and 7' for the two heater hoses.> good luck-- willing to assist -take your time -start very early on a nice day, have plenty of top quality clamps, sharp blades to cut hoses, anti-freeze replacement and a good -old scotch ready - to reward yourself when you get it done jsut right, and to medicate you when you screw it up. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 1973 Registered: 2-2001 |
Jeff, It is true a standard hose can be used but what Don is saying is use a good grade of hose so you won't be replacing it anytime soon. We had various posts on this which are now in the archives. Brgds. | ||
| Jeff 77 GTB (Jbk)
New member Username: Jbk Post Number: 43 Registered: 4-2001 |
These hoses are standard automotive heater hose. You can get them in bulk lengths at any automotive parts store. I replaced mine last year with good hose from the local NAPA store. If I remember right, it took about 14ft of each to wind around to the connections. I removed the fuel tank to replace them which made it an easy straight pull through the sill. | ||
| Mitchell Minh Le (Yelcab1)
New member Username: Yelcab1 Post Number: 30 Registered: 11-2001 |
Don Give me the name of the place so I can order the same hoses. Mitchell | ||
| Don Hewey (1975gt4don)
New member Username: 1975gt4don Post Number: 9 Registered: 1-2002 |
BretM, you may be right on the QV, but on the carbed 308's, there are two 12' hoses, one for the brake booster(woven black vacuum hose) and the heater hose(black coolant hose) that is approximately 1/2 inch hose. I bought my coolant hose from a marine engine supply company made out of silicon. It can withstand 675 deg F. Overkill I know, but I can sleep at night knowing that I won't have to change this hose for another 20 years. The hose is bullet proof. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 1655 Registered: 2-2001 |
I've heard a couple people talk about this heater hose. I briefly looked in the part manual for it but didn't see it. The only thing I can find in my QV that runs the length of the car are the two coolant pipes that run down the middle (to and from radiator). I flushed them out really good this weekend, but they're aluminum so no need to replace (also taking a 10 foot 2" pipe out of the car would require numerous things to be removed, like the body for instance, trying to weld the new one together would be quite the site as well). So, are is this heater hose on the QV? This is the problem with being 135 miles away from your car most the time, can't run down and check it out. I thought the QV's picked up hot coolant from the pipe going to the radiator. There is a hose (maybe 5/8") coming off the pipe right near the battery. | ||
| Mitchell Minh Le (Yelcab1)
New member Username: Yelcab1 Post Number: 29 Registered: 11-2001 |
How long were both of those hoses? | ||
| Don Hewey (1975gt4don)
New member Username: 1975gt4don Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2002 |
Yelcab, the heater hose running the length of the car is not a hard task. Just simply use some electrical tape and attach the new hose to your old one. You are going to pull from the driver side gas tank. The hose will start to move with minimal pulling. After the new hose starts to appear in the engine compartment, continue to pull until you have enough slack to attach to the read head. I would estimate about three feet in length of hose from the fuel tank. I did mine in only 30 minutes. Don't forget to also do the power brake booster hose while you are at it. I have to do mine this weekend. Finding the vacuum hose in one piece is not easy as I am finding out. | ||
| Mitchell Minh Le (Yelcab1)
New member Username: Yelcab1 Post Number: 28 Registered: 11-2001 |
So I am tearing into my 75GT4 to do an engine rebuild. First day, I have taken all the stuff off from the top of the engine. Already the 27 years old car is showing signs of age: 1. The engine stabilizer mounted to the rear firewall just gave and I will need a new set of bushings there. 2. The coolant hose going to the heater valve is so old it just crumbled in my hands. That needs to be changed. But, anyone knows exactly how that looong hose is routed? Mine goes from the engine to the left side of the engine compartment and disappears into a hole. Any suggestion as to how to route that long hose when the time comes to put it all back? Tomorrow, I plan on removing the transmisison bell housing, the AC compressor, and the driveshafts to the wheels. By this weekend, 3 of my friends and I will pull that engine out of the car and put it on a stand. I will keep posting updates whenever I get into a tight space. Mitchell |