| Author | Message | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 449 Registered: 12-2001 |
Great job on the engine. It looks wonderful. | ||
| Chris Richardson (Boozy)
New member Username: Boozy Post Number: 50 Registered: 11-2001 |
If my engine looked that good I'd probably put it under glass in the living room, not in my car! | ||
| Verell Boaen (Verell)
New member Username: Verell Post Number: 28 Registered: 5-2001 |
Hi Ric, The TR engine looks great! I was surprised to see you as a'rookie'. Figured you'd have posts all over this site. Amazedly, Verell | ||
| Ric Rainbolt (Ricrain)
New member Username: Ricrain Post Number: 3 Registered: 2-2002 |
During my most recent engine-out service of the TR, I took the opportunity to spend over 200+ hours detailing the motor (OK, I�m anal). I decided ultimately that the valve covers should be powder coated (not painted) in a texture red. I also removed the gamely wrinkle finish from the plenum and intake runners. I also had the cam belt covers and oil tank done in a textured black. The red is a little brighter than stock and, as such, doesn�t look 100% OEM. Oh, well. I still like the results.  | ||
| Lung (Lung7707)
New member Username: Lung7707 Post Number: 31 Registered: 1-2002 |
Marcus, ur mechanic is correct, you need a special paint which can withstand the heat. Baking may not be necessary. I didn't bake mine but its pretty hot here in Singapore, I think it was dried naturally. No flaking or discoloration yet. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 1566 Registered: 12-2000 |
Is this common to have poor engine-paint on TR's? I remember a few years ago, seeing a TR for sale here in Vancouver and I was amazed at all of the flaking paint on the valve covers. Marcus, with my engine, I used VHT hi-temp paint on the covers and other engine parts. When you go to start the engine for the first time, as it heats, the paint gets baked. The paint is designed to do that (its disconcerting at first when you see clouds of smoke pour out of the engine bay, plus the smell. But its a very tough finish when its fully baked). | ||
| Michael N. (Man90tr)
Member Username: Man90tr Post Number: 466 Registered: 4-2001 |
Steve and Ben -- Thanks for the ideas, I will pass them along to my tech. I have ben through this fuse box thing 2X in the last six months. The first time I replaced the fusebox as it was too late and parts were melted. This time I hope we caught it early and will replace the white strips only. | ||
| Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member Username: Benjet Post Number: 488 Registered: 1-2001 |
Marcus - Great Pics! I've been there as well, even before I had a digital camera I took many shots of my 30k (and I had the repaint done), here's the link (shameless plug) http://arariti.quirt.com/service It's been a year and 2,500 miles, the paint looks as good as ever. As for the electrical, I'm with SteveM here, replacing the board will not solve the problem permanently, as the board (or the connectors around it) are NOT designed to handle the current that passes thru there. I've had a few failures in this matter already. My solution altho a bit more unorthodox (and not shown in the pics linked above as it happened later) is to solder a jumper wire directly onto the relay terminal (87) and directly connect it to the lead that was coming out of the white socket, bypassing the weak points completely for the 4-6 relays that needed the high current. IIRC, those were all the fan realys (incl. HVAC) and maybe the fuel pumps. This repair solution was approved by my F authorized tech. The drawback to this is that the circut board/fuse holder doesn't tilt out all nice and pretty anymore unless I remove those modified relays first. The expense of the new fuse board ($700?) didn't seem to make any sense as it would just continue to happen the more I drove my car. Just my story for what it's worth. -Ben | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 1669 Registered: 2-2001 |
Great shots. The 308 service looks like nothing compared to the tr. That subframe to pull out underneath sure looks like a nice setup though from a maintenance stand point. | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 533 Registered: 1-2001 |
My experience too is the that some of the connections in the 4 white horizontal at the bottom of the TR fuse/relay PWB are rather underdesigned for the load (and you can't see the problem unless you unplug the connectors). I was less keen on replacing the PWB as this wouldn't solve the problem in the long run. Fortunately, the relays controlling the affected pins/sockets have an extra unused 87 output terminal so I added parallel wiring to reduce (or replace) the current load in the affected pins/sockets. A shot of the bad AC power connection:  and a shot of the bad water cooling fan connections:  If you've got a TR you might want to inspect/clean these connections to try to minimize the overheating and extend the life of the PWB -- JMHO. | ||
| Marcus Adolfsson (Marcusadolfsson)
New member Username: Marcusadolfsson Post Number: 19 Registered: 10-2001 |
George, The board is the breaker/relay board from the front of the car. I have had some sporadic electrical problems for a while (door locks, AC, interior lights comes and goes), so we figured the board be responsible. Sure enough, several of soddered leads on the back had "melted" and fallen into themselves (see the image). The mechanic said this was standard electrical wear on the TR - as you may know their electrical system is not the greatest. We got a new board installed and new everything seems to work great. Lung, yeah I would like to have the engine repainted, but according to the mechanic it is a very long complicated procedure. It required a special paint, and after applying it he would have to "bake" the engine in oven for several hours. Didn't sound too appealing to me. Does the spray paint last, or has it started to fall off? | ||
| Dr. George Petito (Doc18015)
New member Username: Doc18015 Post Number: 17 Registered: 12-2001 |
Marcus: Great shots! What is the damage to the board(?) or is that a normal service procedure? I had my TR done in the fall and do not remember any servicing to that component. If it is not a big deal, it would be interesting to know all of the servicing details on your car,i.e. what was done and why. By the looks of the carriage supports for the engine frame, your guy must have worked on TRs . Good luck, George | ||
| Lung (Lung7707)
New member Username: Lung7707 Post Number: 30 Registered: 1-2002 |
Marcus, your engine still looks pretty clean from the photos. When I did my major service, I got the shop to respray the engine too (both the silver and red crackle paint)...it looked brand new when it came out. The car felt "happy" after the service. | ||
| Marcus Adolfsson (Marcusadolfsson)
New member Username: Marcusadolfsson Post Number: 18 Registered: 10-2001 |
My TR is in for the 30k service, and I went down to the mechanic today to take some photos. My baby looks so bare!  More photos at: http://www.adolfsson.com/ferrari/majorservice/FrameSet.htm At least the engine will get a long overdue cleaning. |