| Author | Message | ||
| 1975GT4Don (1975gt4don)
New member Username: 1975gt4don Post Number: 50 Registered: 1-2002 |
mitchell, just for the heck of it to see if I can get it for next to nothing, then turn around and sell it locally and make a few bucks. | ||
| Mitchell Minh Le (Yelcab1)
Junior Member Username: Yelcab1 Post Number: 89 Registered: 11-2001 |
Don What are you doing bidding on this engine? ML | ||
| 1975GT4Don (1975gt4don)
New member Username: 1975gt4don Post Number: 46 Registered: 1-2002 |
....and I am the high bidder :-) Gotta feeling his reserve price is a bit high, so I don't think I would be too interested. | ||
| David Harris (Dakharris)
Junior Member Username: Dakharris Post Number: 131 Registered: 6-2001 |
New belts 250 miles ago! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1816956579&r=0&t=0 | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Junior Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 243 Registered: 10-2001 |
Kurt, that's brilliant! I just wish I'd have tought of that first! | ||
| Kurt White (Ferraribooks)
New member Username: Ferraribooks Post Number: 8 Registered: 2-2002 |
Here's my take on this. I wouldn't mind betting Ferrari has some of these engines sitting in the wharehouse over at the factory. All you would need is to run the part number through "Maracheno" and you'll know the exact real time stock on hand, as you can with any Ferrari part, just so long as you have the part number. I bet that bad boy is VERY expen$ive even buying direct from Italy, however, if you had a customer that has the dough to splash out on this kind of product, why not put a post out on ebay for the $100K, then when you have a buyer, have the motor dropped shipped directly from Italy to your customer, thus, if you don't sell it you'll only be out $3.30 listing fee, but, if you bought the motor from Italy, then you'll be out a whole lot more. There's more than one way to skin a cat! Tata. Kurt. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 1684 Registered: 12-2000 |
Hey Richelson, there's no picture, because this guy selling it, doesn't even have the engine in his direct possesion! His "mechanic" is the only one who opened the crate... This whole deal gives me the creeps... | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 603 Registered: 12-2001 |
Geez for $100K you don't even get a picture. | ||
| David Harris (Dakharris)
Junior Member Username: Dakharris Post Number: 129 Registered: 6-2001 |
Is this obscene? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1812410897 I dunno, but I'm glad I'm not in the market for one of these. | ||
| Mitchell Minh Le (Yelcab1)
Junior Member Username: Yelcab1 Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2001 |
Well Back to the original topic. Apparently everybody else also thought that the prices for the $4900 (for one head) QV head was obscene so nobody bidded. Same for the $1250 flywheel. I guess it has been almost a week and no sucker was born, yet. | ||
| Edward G. Salla (350hpmondial)
New member Username: 350hpmondial Post Number: 35 Registered: 2-2002 |
2Klbs & 380HP!!! ok, ok I only got 3.5Klbs & 350 HP, And a dry sump, thats too cool. Did you steal it off a 2 liter 308 err, 208? Those work good, last time I saw a dry sump was on a 1968 911S This car was all stock, 2.2 liter, but man I think it was 2.2Klbs and 200HP. But really , thats all my greasy wrench friend could handle, (I once saw him put a cherry Cal-Bug into a light pole, when we were kids, (Of all things, he was demonstrating the drift control of a rear engined car, I didn't know wheather to piss my pants or die laughing.)) I have yet to drive up to his shop with my rig, maybe later. (ha ha ) And, ya, that might happen, I'll race, I travel a lot, you know the "day job." it's like athelete's foot,,,,,,,,,,,, you just can't get rid of it. (ha ha) Right now I'm down in Dallas, but It's ok. The 1948 Indian Scout is cherry red, lil rust but it's a 1948 freakin Indian Scout! If I had one, I'd park it in my living room. Pretty soon. My bud's also got a 2000 Indian Scout, with that S&S motor, pretty cool. Did Harley and Indian ever get that lawsuit finished? Man, their fighting like a bunch of girls. Anyway, just build a bike,,,,,, ok? Chat later, | ||
| joe saldana (Ironjoe)
New member Username: Ironjoe Post Number: 32 Registered: 12-2001 |
P.S ED with the primo mondial,dam that thing sounds wicked.when is the question. im dying to get out there also down to 2000 pounds n 380 hp had to throw a dry sump system in ,thats always good for 15 extra ponies, | ||
| joe saldana (Ironjoe)
New member Username: Ironjoe Post Number: 31 Registered: 12-2001 |
ED,what it is,was, and shall be...P.s never mess with the IRS.Tell him I need the INDIAN ill keep it perfect for him..so you got DA BAD BOY out hey,AWESOME,and were gonna meet half way across the country and RACE...guess what I got the tie rods and the ball joints n energy susp bushs,speaking of bush.my glamor girl upgraded to a racing stripe i was happy.NORWOODS GOT TOO MUCH COOL STUFF NOW,he needs to give me a few hot rods.GOOD to hear from you..also GT4 just run 10 guage off your battery to tiny fuse box you can mount anywhere in compartment thenrun to fans | ||
| 1975GT4Don (1975gt4don)
New member Username: 1975gt4don Post Number: 32 Registered: 1-2002 |
Thank you all for your excellent advice. I will post about which types of fans I will check out and then install after deciding on the best spec fan. I want to conquer this problem once and for all. ***Richelson*** I noticed that you mentioned that you remade wiring connections. Did you go to a larger gauge of wire? I do not feel like snaking larger gauge wiring thru the car. I did that before all of the way to the fuse box when I had installed new fuse boxes two years ago. That was the wisest thing that I did. Electrical problems disappeared. I used OEM fuse boxes. Yeah, I am going to use the original setup for the fan control's, less muss and fuss. | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 580 Registered: 12-2001 |
Bret, I think you are on the right track. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 1962 Registered: 2-2001 |
Thanks guys for the info, even if the thing isn't overheating I think I'm gonna switch fans this summer, not a problem, but at times it was running a bit hot and for $160 and an day why not beef up the cooling system. First things first though, gotta get it running before it can overheat. | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 577 Registered: 12-2001 |
I have a set of fans but I don't know if they are Lucas or not. | ||
| Gerrit Visser (Gerritv)
New member Username: Gerritv Post Number: 47 Registered: 6-2001 |
Hi, If anyone has one or two original Lucas rad fan motors they no longer want, e.g. you replaced them with Hayden's, send me an email. I need one for my 1976 308GT4. Thanks, | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 571 Registered: 12-2001 |
Here are the Hayden #'s. 3670 for the 10 inch fan. 3680 for the 12 inch fan. I used 2 12's. I use the low profile fans or slimline. I remade wiring connections. I did use the stock thermo-switch as it works just fine. After this conversion your car will run very cool in the summer as soon as it gets to half the fans come on and knock the temp back down to about 1/4. I think they are about $80 each. | ||
| Christian (Christiank)
Member Username: Christiank Post Number: 300 Registered: 1-2001 |
How much did you pay for that. Just curious. | ||
| Edward G. Salla (350hpmondial)
New member Username: 350hpmondial Post Number: 32 Registered: 2-2002 |
Ya,,,,,, go with the Perma-Cool. But don't go aluminum radiator..... brass only, unless you know water chemistry or TIG welding.. Hey, Iron Joe. Just got back for NORWOODS, new injectors, new harness, then got a old 486 computer right out of Bill Gates Trash, Then I used to tuned my TURBO on my Mondial. She is ready now, the back tires are a little slick (need new) But,,, I like her when she is tail happy. (ha ha) NORWOOD has this 308 Carbon Bodied, Billit Block Beast, 48 Valve testa heads. 24 freaking injectors! Just got off the phone with my Iron Horse pal, seems that he put his 48 Chief in a barn in WY,,,, hidin from the IRS, Did you do your taxs yet? Also, I just turned a Right Mondial doorhandle into a Left one. Beat the system again. (the Rights are 1/2 price $$ !!). Man, my car runs great,, ,,,,,,, ?????? When is yours gonna? (ha ha) | ||
| joe saldana (Ironjoe)
New member Username: Ironjoe Post Number: 30 Registered: 12-2001 |
cut the fan mounts off with a sawzall,pusher fans lose 20% air-flow .get a perma-cool 14 inch hipo fan, 2950 cfm. most v8s need over 2500 cfm of direct frontal air.READ permacools web about static testing and the competition,Ive used Hayden and Spal numerous amounts of times their great but perma cool has the advantage.... | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 1667 Registered: 12-2000 |
I got news for you Don, them stock fans are Lucas! I haven't had an over-heating problem with my car, but then again, this is Canada... | ||
| 1975GT4Don (1975gt4don)
New member Username: 1975gt4don Post Number: 31 Registered: 1-2002 |
Richelson/Greg, yes please, post the specs in here, like the diameter of the fan, cfm's, whether or not it was a slimline or an ultra-swirl. stuff like that. Yup, I had the radiator cleaned out about 2 years ago and just two weeks ago, cleaned out and pressure checked the expansion tank getting it ready for this summer. Going with a new expansion tank cap also. Possibly a new thermostat just in case. I have had it with those stupid ital pieces of junk fans. How did you wire up the fan controls? Did you use Hayden or the OEM existing controls? I prefer to run a direct wire off of the battery terminal and use an inline fuse block over to the fans. I plan on adding a bigger fan, maybe 2 inches larger than the OEM, there is enough room to do this.  | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 560 Registered: 12-2001 |
Greg is completely right about the Hayden fans. I have installed them as well. They do work great. My car never gets about half even in 95 degree summer heat. They spin at a very high speed and move quite a bit of air. They are also low profile. The motor is very small and fits well on a 308 too. The hard part would be if you have working a/c as it helps to pull the condensor to put the tie through to hold the fans on. Make sure that you wire them the right way or the fan will rotate the opposite way and pull air. I think that you will be pleased if you make the switch. Also, if your car do run hot it isn't a bad idea to have the radiator rodded out. It is about $60 and it cleans out all of the rust and any clogged areas. Hope this helps. | ||
| Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Junior Member Username: Joechristmas Post Number: 147 Registered: 3-2001 |
I installed Haydens. They are great. Let me know if you need more info on them. They work much better than the stock fans IMO and they are about $80 each at Pep Boys. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 1959 Registered: 2-2001 |
Yeah exactly, just a pain in the a$$ when you have to worry if getting caught in traffic might overheat you on those 100 degree days. I can't remember who switched to Haydens, they were talking about it recently. I want to say it was Richelson, but I could be totally wrong. They're supposed to flow a lot more air. The radiator on the 308 is diesel, you should be able to cool a semi with it so I think hot running is BS. | ||
| 1975GT4Don (1975gt4don)
New member Username: 1975gt4don Post Number: 30 Registered: 1-2002 |
BretM, me too, I go thru that ambient stuff like crazy and it irritates me because I coddle that cooling system like a child and I don't get a return on my investment so to speak in cooling temperature behavior. That pisses me off. I expect more and demand more. Just taking a peek at the OEM fans, they could have gone at least another inch more on the fan diameter. I do want to know what part number on the Hayden fans others have used in here. I don't want to reinvent the wheel here, but just to have piece of mind in driving my baby like it should and not have to worry about the approaching summer. In years past, I could not even THINK about driving mine in hot weather. That would have been suicidal. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 1956 Registered: 2-2001 |
Hayden fans are pretty good from what I hear and a couple people here have installed them. I'm gonna see how my car is doing this summer with the new hoses, radiator boiled out, new thermostat, etc. If it's still a little too ambient temperature sensitive then I think I will be switching to them. Also gonna pull that window motor swap. | ||
| 1975GT4Don (1975gt4don)
New member Username: 1975gt4don Post Number: 29 Registered: 1-2002 |
BretM/others, yeah, I fully am with ya there on the fuse boxes and other things. The Italian engineers are not the sharpest around as these cars have proven. I for one am a hose fanatic and also an electrical fanatic. I hate electrical problems and eliminated most of them on my car over the years. The latest thing I am looking at, is changing the type of cooling fans(2) that Ferrari used on the gt4's. I am looking at a slightly larger diameter fan with also more rpm's and cfm's. Good constructive improvements that will not alter the value of the car in the event if you decide to sale the car---at time of sale. If the prospective buyer cannot see this, they need to have their IQ checked if they cannot see the work you have saved them from future problems. Better rubber hoses(like the hose I am using) can prevent fires and maintenance headaches like overheating and being able to go longer without changing rubber. | ||
| Christian (Christiank)
Member Username: Christiank Post Number: 299 Registered: 1-2001 |
I understand you guys and I agree in part. On my TR the clutch doesn/t make me happy and the flywheel is worrysome. So I decided to put in a carbon cevlar hydraulic clutch just because the original parts are too weak or no longer available. If I would have found a new flywheel for about USD 1,000 I would have opted for this one. But I would not go further than this, like putting in a different gas tank or a different engine. | ||
| Scott Anderson (Srandrsn)
Junior Member Username: Srandrsn Post Number: 87 Registered: 4-2001 |
I can respect all those who wish to keep their Ferrari's original and use Ferrari only parts. I'm that way with all my old corvettes, I rebuild things that can be, starters, alt... to save the original parts and most importantly the part numbers and date stamps. But in my situation, being up here in N.W. Wisconsin where the driving season is maybee 5-6 months and the nearest shop who has any clue about Ferraris is in Minn/St. Pual 4-5 hours away, I want/need my car to work and be dependable and have components which I or normal shops can handle working on or readily get. Thus I have no problems using parts from other sources to achieve this. If I had a shop right down the street I'd go with Ferrari only stuff but for me I can't do that so thats why I chose to search for other alternatives. But again I do respect those who want to keep their car all Ferrari, in fact more power to you, wish I could as well. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 1947 Registered: 2-2001 |
I use all Ferrari parts except ones where they're a piece of sh_t. I'm gonna take out my old fuseboxes (which still work well) and replace them with a more modern fuse setup. Why risk another fire hazard to keep it original is how I look at it. My valve guides that are going in aren't OEM, they're better than OEM. Stuff along these lines I change over because I don't see the sense of paying more for outdated technology. But if you're a purist all the more power to you. | ||
| Patrick S. Perry (Psp1)
Junior Member Username: Psp1 Post Number: 60 Registered: 3-2001 |
Christian, I understand your wish to keep your car "Ferrari Original", but what would you do if faced with this choice: A few years ago, I blew a Bosch relay from my TR fuel management system, so I went to the local Ferrari dealer to get the replacement part. The parts guy knew me as an enthusiast since I was in asking a thousand questions (pre FerrariChat days). He told me that certain Porsche 928 models used the same relay setup as my 88TR - the exact same Bosch relay in a Ferrari bag was $275 - in a Porsche bag it was $94!. Needless to say, my TR is now a Italian/German hybrid. | ||
| Christian (Christiank)
Member Username: Christiank Post Number: 298 Registered: 1-2001 |
I am still a purist and like to use F parts. Why bother and buying a Ferrari then? Doens/t make sense to me. Paying those high prices is part of the fun  . | ||
| Scott Anderson (Srandrsn)
Junior Member Username: Srandrsn Post Number: 86 Registered: 4-2001 |
Mucluogh has a web site http://www.alumrad.com The guy I dealt with was Terry. He will build any size you want, with any inlet/outlet size, drain plugs, whatever and anywhere you want it. If you are in the market for a new radiator call them, mine was for an 80 GTSi very close to stock size, a little taller, but a beauiful aluminum cross flow for less than $300.00. I had them make it without a place for the thermo switch since I was installing the electric fan with its own temp probe but they could have made it if I wanted. | ||
| Scott Anderson (Srandrsn)
Junior Member Username: Srandrsn Post Number: 85 Registered: 4-2001 |
Joe, I had McCulogh make me a new radiator last fall. It was a great piece, required some alteration to the stock brackets but nothing too serious, I also put in an adjustable electric fan from summit racing. Just hook it up to a power source (did away with stock thermo switch and crapy wiring). It has a probe you run into the upper radiator hose and a trick control box which lets you adjust the on and off from I think 180-220 degrees. That too required some fabrication to install but the thing has dual fans and really moves some air. Cost I think was less than $200.00. | ||
| joe saldana (Ironjoe)
New member Username: Ironjoe Post Number: 29 Registered: 12-2001 |
Yeah,We will start out with something easy like brakes.Front calipers rebuilt and blasted like new 42.00 complete,rears 120.00 with all new parking brake goodies 120.00 at S and G auto 734-383-2500 all new brake lines less than 40.00 same place,stainless steel flex lines off porsche 911 45.00 Vertex 305-442-2727 (make sure you lower the union tabs on frame and buy porsche retention clips 10.00 same place.E-brake lever any fiat dismantler.the famous steering rack rebuild first seal under rack FederalMogul part number 314259 (get this 78 FORD PINTO) plastic bushing on passenger side 41.00 at Bobby Norwoods he builds mean machines.and grease it up with Mercury Quicksilver special lube 101 with teflon 10.00 a tube any marine store,bellows Nissan 280z at SnG 21.00 including cool air transfer tube.Tie rods TRW part number 149199 or at A n W in New Jersey 64.00 upr ball joint 104.00 lower 130.00.Radiator 275.00 custom built alluminum cross flow inch n a half two row (not 1500.00) just 275.00 at O to Cool 888-881-0663 ask Will.or Mcculogh Fab in michigan 866-258 6723.yank the stock pump and get a csi electric 260.00 at ramchargers run Dayco greenstripe with the least amount of 90s as possible n evans coolant.scrap the garbage a/c compressor and get a sanden sd 508 6x9 at vintage air.rebuilt starter better than new at Aero Auto Electric 120.00 alternator 110.00 734 285 1366.Clutch 2300 lb same as Daytona clutch and pressure plate (not 750.00) just 200.00 at Quality clutch good street feel too .Ricks been racin n doin clutchs for 25 years 313-277-1780.scrap the tanks and get a 16 gal fuel cell from speedway 84.00 (I personally think the tanks are way too close to heat n spark) Reupholsterer complete dash (hes excellent too ) 135.00 door panels 110.00 not leather leather more,Hoffman brothers ,Monroe,Mi Shop course on motorcycle mechanics 75.00 any comm college ,then auto course 150.00 saves thousands or be born a GEARHEAD like me,theres plenty more....... | ||
| Brian stewart (Eurocardoc)
Junior Member Username: Eurocardoc Post Number: 216 Registered: 11-2001 |
I have to defend PCNA here, they have many parts cheaper than the aftermarket, OK they get you on some stuff, buy that elsewhere. They do drop ship anything overnight. Wish I could get that from some other importers.... | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 548 Registered: 12-2001 |
Joe, can you give us some ideas? | ||
| joe saldana (Ironjoe)
New member Username: Ironjoe Post Number: 28 Registered: 12-2001 |
I can not believe what I am reading, any machine shop guy, can make anything you need.any race car fab shop,and especially friends at the big three,the great deals are out there.Make sure you know what your talking about and sound like youve rebuilt ferraris a thousand times,The cost will come down...... | ||
| Christian (Christiank)
Member Username: Christiank Post Number: 297 Registered: 1-2001 |
I feel that every time I buy a part from the Ferrari or Porsche dealer. What a ripp off. Only buy there if I have to. I don't feel that 1,250 is too much for a new flywheel, I guess it is at least 5 grand from the dealer, if they have one. And that's what I hate most, not only have the Ferrari and Porsche dealers insane pricing, they cannot even deliver within a reasonable time. If you wait one month you can get the same part for 1/10 of the price on ebay, or let's say 1/10 of the price and some goodies, you need a switch and get the whole dashboard for that 1/10's of the price. | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Junior Member Username: Jay Post Number: 242 Registered: 10-2001 |
I love e-bay! I sold my Fiero with a N* engine for almost $10K US and turned around and bought the Ferrari 308 GT4 with the cash! I think when you are bidding you can't get carried away. Know what you want to spend and then stop if it goes over. If you watch long enough you will get to know who has more than one item for sale. If it gets too high wait for his next listing of the same item. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 268 Registered: 3-2001 |
Amazing what kinds of prices you can expect when you have an audience as large as eBay's. The eBay concept will always be regarded as one of the internet's greatest achievements. Where else would you find an Agip sign for your garage, a 20 year old original Ferrari factory poster, an old Ferrari model car, a magazine from 1974 with a road test on your Dino, etc? And where else can you sell what you felt was your grandmother's useless attick junk for $1000? Yes, it's unbelievable what people will pay for "stuff".... but eBay is pretty damn cool. | ||
| Robert Davis (H2oquick)
Junior Member Username: H2oquick Post Number: 124 Registered: 8-2001 |
But you know if no one bids on it, then the seller will probably reduce it more until it does sell. | ||
| Dave Trbizan (Davidt)
New member Username: Davidt Post Number: 6 Registered: 1-2002 |
I had placed an add on ebay for a complete 94 348 motor and trans. The last bid was $5100. IMHO, I think $5000 for a 308 QV head is a bit much. | ||
| Robert Davis (H2oquick)
Junior Member Username: H2oquick Post Number: 122 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hey guys...I put some old parts I have for early muscle cars on ebay.....I usually put more than a reasonable bidding price and sometimes even a buy it now. I cannot believe the bids I get for what I have. Sometimes double to triple what I would take for it. It is not always the seller, but mostly the bidder who drives prices up. You cannot bid on your own item you are selling and if you are caught..bad news. I sold my Ansa exhaust on ebay for a buy it now price of 750.00 not a bad price for the same one selling from a retailer for 1765.00.......I got back what I had in it....a deal for a deal.. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 1912 Registered: 2-2001 |
$9000 for a head seems high to me. At WWoC they have an entire 2 valve engine for sale in $9500. It may be true that they are hard to find, but by no means can you not find them. I find it good to ask people that do it for a living to look out for deals. Nick was very helpful in this, TRutlands and Dennis McCann are usually kind of helpful. I've found my local dealer to be really good with this. For big things like this, if you ask them to look for a used this or that they always seem to find it and give you a really good deal on it. | ||
| Ernie Bonilla (Ernie)
Junior Member Username: Ernie Post Number: 192 Registered: 11-2001 |
Plain old economics, supply and demand, with a twist. If you control the supply you can demand what ever you want. | ||
| Ernie Bonilla (Ernie)
Junior Member Username: Ernie Post Number: 191 Registered: 11-2001 |
$9,000 for a head is a RIPOFF! The reason they charge that much is cause where else are you gonna get the part???? You aren't. Why? Because FNA is trying to monopolise this market. You cannot buy the stuff from europe and have it shipped here. I called Ferrari in England for a clutch for my car. There price was about $200 cheaper than here and that was with a 20% mark up on the part! But they couldn't sell it to me cause they got into trouble for doing that in the past. If it where a normal automobile company trying to do that, they would have ANTI-TRUST law cases up the yin yang slapped on them. In my opinion, because it is Ferrari, and a "rich man's car" no one give a rats a##. I really like my Ferrari and I am proud to own one, but the treatment you recieve as an owner is plain and simple F*CKED UP! | ||
| Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
Member Username: Caribe Post Number: 256 Registered: 2-2001 |
Adam, I don't think there are differences from the T.Rutlands parts and the dealer. I have order parts from T. before and they all have been, so far, OEM parts. I was just trying to compare before proceeding with T. | ||
| David Harris (Dakharris)
Junior Member Username: Dakharris Post Number: 128 Registered: 6-2001 |
Keep spreading the news that Ebay is a rip off! It's already too popular. Since it's an auction format, I don't want anyone else bidding against me. I have purchased many parts (and my car) from Ebay at great discounts. It's like a shopping mall with many vendors. Sometimes you buy and sometimes you pass. Two good parts sources, Nick Scianna and George Evans, sell on Ebay all the time as an advertising tool. | ||
| Paul Sloan (Sloan83qv)
Junior Member Username: Sloan83qv Post Number: 244 Registered: 3-2001 |
Dave, I believe a new head from ferrari is $9000, so $5000 is not a rip off if you need a "new head" I am not the seller. Paul | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 534 Registered: 12-2001 |
Many sellers up their own bids. I am surprised at the prices too. Everything is always top dollar or higher. | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred Post Number: 355 Registered: 2-2001 |
If the buyers are the ones who bid up the price how is it the sellers fault? What is he supposed to do, put in a clause that says he reserves the right to shut down the auction if people bid too high. | ||
| Verell Boaen (Verell)
New member Username: Verell Post Number: 49 Registered: 5-2001 |
PT Barnum used to say: "There's a sucker born every minuite." After seeing a copy of Keith Bluemel's Original Ferrari V8 sell for $150 on eBAY a few weeks ago(Honest!!), I tend to believe him!!! Wrote the 2nd highest bidder who'd lost by $5 & invited him to make me an offer for a spare copy I have in mint condition. He replied that after losing the auction someone showed him he could buy it from AMAZON.COM for $35. He helped bid the price up, and felt that the eBAY seller was ripping people off(duh). | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2123 Registered: 2-2001 |
Oh yeah guys, My daughter-in-law sells junk on there and makes tremendous profits. She buys a unusual piece of pottery for $5.00 and sells it for $80.00. Has the world gone nuts? Don't they know ebay is nothing more than a auction not the last word in quality and validity of a product in worth as well as in the sale price. | ||
| Adam Goldman '86 TR (Icnsltmfg)
Member Username: Icnsltmfg Post Number: 264 Registered: 8-2001 |
Arnaldo; What is the diffrence between the Ferrari Dealer and T. Rutlands parts....Id it the same stuff, same quality. I use an independent and would provide him with the parts. | ||
| Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
New member Username: Hardtop Post Number: 30 Registered: 1-2002 |
I saw the head for 5K and thought the same thing. Hopefully the seller? will just end up paying a listing fee for nothing. There is an entire QV motor new in the crate for sale in the ads on this site for 11 or 12K. Seems more realistic. Not all dealers are crooks on parts, but it pays to shop. Recently I bought a part from Ferrari Central Florida that is back ordered and his might have been the last one in the US. They gave me a discount off list without my asking. I was just happy to find it and would have paid list. Other times, I have been charged over list for off the shelf parts, but only once! This is an area where independents are good because they can often get you the same parts without the horsey box for much less and often charge less than list for genuine Ferrari parts. For reasons I cannot comprehend some dealers seem to like to hose people on parts while others try to do more business by offering discounts. Dave | ||
| Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
Member Username: Caribe Post Number: 254 Registered: 2-2001 |
Not only those people, even Ferrari dealers think they can squeeze cash out of Ferrari Owners everytime they want to. Today I stopped by the Ferrari dealer at Woodland Hills, CA. and they quoted me ~$2300.00 for the parts necessary to do a major on a TR (T.Rutlands price for the parts is less than $900.00). They also had about four 355 Spiders. I asked for prices, and the cheapest one was $145K. I just cannot believe how they can make money that way. Actually, I think I know. There are many owners out there who either have to, or think that paying anything the dealer ask for is part of the experience, and the mystique of owning a Ferrari. Poor bastards! | ||
| Mitchell Minh Le (Yelcab1)
Junior Member Username: Yelcab1 Post Number: 71 Registered: 11-2001 |
I have been crusing the ebay site for Ferrari used parts and I am taken aback by the obscene prices on the site. Are Ferrari parts that expensive or do these sellers think we are just gullible people? $5000 for one QV head, $1250 starting bid for one flywheel? Are they all out to lunch? |