| Author | Message | |||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2183 Registered: 2-2001 |
Ben, You can pull up Eastwood At www.Eastwood Co.com Under search type in Paint Cad and it takes you to the kit. Total kit 39.99 plus shipping. Tele: 1-800-345-1178 | |||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2182 Registered: 2-2001 |
Ben, There is a Grecian Gold which has a little greenish cast to it. That's pretty close but not exact. When you use it, thin it with WD 40 and apply sparingly. Too much will give it a solid looking color. Yes anything with a abrasive in it will remove the finish from those parts. Eastwood has a Golden Cad Paint system to restore those finishes. It works very well in places that do not get a lot of excessive heat. However unlike Rub and Buff it will scratch when you scrape something on it. Try Eastwood on the internet I don't have their number. Maybe some of you other guys have it? | |||
| Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member Username: Benjet Post Number: 522 Registered: 1-2001 |
Ok I'll admit to not having gone out an gotten some of this miracle stuff yet (but I will!). I can easily think of another area on my TR that could use this (as Magoo said) the striker plates and locking mechanisms of the doors, bonnet and engine cover (maybe even the brake cailpers). All these parts on the TR have been (correct me here if I'm wrong) Zinc washed/coated. This is a very yellowish gold color on all the parts listed. Any clue as to what flavor Rub 'n Buff would work best on these? here are some soso pics of a TR brake caliper (not mine), to give you some idea: http://arariti.quirt.com/service/part2/image32.htm http://arariti.quirt.com/service/part2/image35.htm I have used wenol and some other polishes on the striker plates, and it just strips off the gold, giving a faded gold color to the metal. Wenol is great for other things tho. I got knocked points for this and some other mis-colored items on my car last year during a concours, and while I'm not a serious concours person, if it's cheap and easy I'll have no trouble making it right ;) -Ben | |||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2181 Registered: 2-2001 |
John, No problem. The important thing is that the tip helps all of us solve a problem that has been a question for some time about cleaning up the engine bay on our Ferraris. But you are correct. It works. | |||
| John Bicsak (Funshipone)
New member Username: Funshipone Post Number: 45 Registered: 1-2002 |
Hello Magoo I'm sorry didn't give credit to correct person great stuff also comes in different colors. I'm trying to think what other colors may be used for on Ferrari. | |||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2180 Registered: 2-2001 |
Kelly, I am glad you like it because I have been trying to tell these guys for a long time that it works great. I think it was the name,"RUB and BUFF", sounded like a womans face powder. Try it on the other silver metal parts of your car. The door strikers on my car were tarnished with age. I used it on them and they look new again. On the older Momo steering wheels the aluminum spokes get dull. Use it on them also. Avoid getting it on the leather but if you do remove it with WD 40. Great stuff. BRGDS, | |||
| Kelly J. Vince (Tifosi1)
Junior Member Username: Tifosi1 Post Number: 176 Registered: 2-2002 |
I can't believe it, Hobby Lobby had it $3.69. I wish i had this when i did my 30K THX Magoo. | |||
| John Bicsak (Funshipone)
New member Username: Funshipone Post Number: 43 Registered: 1-2002 |
I got Rub & Buff today at local Arts & Craft store payed $3.49 plus 6 cents Michigan sales tax greatest stuff sence chicken soup thank you Rob for making my motor look sweet. | |||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2179 Registered: 2-2001 |
RUB and BUFF can be found in Arts and Craft Stores. Joanne's Crafts and Fabrics carries it. | |||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 1369 Registered: 12-2000 |
Hobby Lobby | |||
| Ric Rainbolt (Ricrain)
New member Username: Ricrain Post Number: 37 Registered: 2-2002 |
Where does one get "Rub and Buff"? | |||
| Mitchell Minh Le (Yelcab1)
Junior Member Username: Yelcab1 Post Number: 87 Registered: 11-2001 |
Magoo, That stuff WORKS GREAT ! I tried it yesterday on the intermediate engine housing cover behind the flywheel. Cleaned, degreased, blown dried, and applied the Rub and Buf with a small brush, buffed with clean towel and the thing just shines. Best is, no masking is required, no waiting for it to dry, no hazardous paint fumes to inhale, no paint particles to stick to your other nice car in the garage, and it only used just a little bit a time. My 2 tubes will last a life time. It works so great, I am going to use it on my coil springs. Do you know if that works on the magnesium wheels? I just had them blasted and they are ready to be repainted but if this stuff works better, I will go that route. Darn, spent almost $200 on primer, paint and clearcoat from Wurth ... | |||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2173 Registered: 2-2001 |
Rob, Glad it worked for you. It will last for a long time. Mine has been on for 2yrs and looks as nice as when I put it on. Cutting it with WD 40 is also important in that it goes on easier and get into the pores of the metal easier. Also buffing with a soft bristle brush will raise the shine better than using a rag. | |||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 1352 Registered: 12-2000 |
That stuff goes and goes, I used about 10% of one tube for the entire front side of my engine. | |||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 448 Registered: 9-2001 |
buy stock now, once they here it can be used on a f-car they will charge 4 times as much  | |||
| Mitchell Minh Le (Yelcab1)
Junior Member Username: Yelcab1 Post Number: 86 Registered: 11-2001 |
Magoo I bought 2 tubes and will try it on my engine soon Mitchell | |||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 1348 Registered: 12-2000 |
Thanks Magoo, it really did work great, I still want to spend another half day getting it perfect though. | |||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2167 Registered: 2-2001 |
Mitchell, Questions answered about Rub and Buff? Look at Robs engine. Proof that it works. BRGDS, Magoo | |||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2166 Registered: 2-2001 |
Rob, That's why I recommended Rub and Buff. It has worked great for me on my cars engines for years. Glad to see it worked for you. Looks pretty good. | |||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 1346 Registered: 12-2000 |
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| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 1345 Registered: 12-2000 |
Yes, Silver Leaf is the exact one. I'm thinking about gold though for the low rider shows. ;) | |||
| Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Junior Member Username: Eric308gtsiqv Post Number: 228 Registered: 11-2001 |
Rob...just out of curiosity, what color of Rub 'n Buff did you choose to use on your engine? I picked up a couple tubes at the local JoAnne's craft store today and ended up purchasing the "Silver Leaf" color (# 76370K) -- did I do good on picking this color? -Thanks. | |||
| Andrew (Enzo250gto)
New member Username: Enzo250gto Post Number: 20 Registered: 2-2002 |
"Simple Green" concentrated bottle works well too with some hard scrubbing, but if its discolored from heat and not dirt/grim I'm not sure how well it will work. You can get it at most stores like Target on at the grocery in the cleaning section. | |||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2147 Registered: 2-2001 |
I think Neil just answered the question. Check the Archives. Rub and Buff actually penetrates the metal getting down in the pores. It will not burn off and looks great for years. It is not a paint. Apply with a small paint brush to rub into the pores of the metal, just be sure to hand buff off and use sparingly. Again check the archives. Neil is correct most Art and craft stores have it. It comes in a small tube which you will find to be plenty. You can also cut it with WD40 which I find you can control it better on application. You won't need a 50gal. drum of the stuff. If you check it out Bobd in the archives it should answer your question. | |||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 290 Registered: 3-2001 |
Magoo, the "Rub & Buff" you're referring to wouldn't happen to be similar to "elbow grease" would it? | |||
| Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Junior Member Username: Eric308gtsiqv Post Number: 204 Registered: 11-2001 |
Found a link for Rub 'n Buff metallic polish: Rub 'n Buff and Rub 'n Buff colors It is made by AMACO (American Art Clay Co.), Inc. -- their phone number is: 1-800-374-1600. | |||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 714 Registered: 9-2001 |
What is "rub and buff " ? Is it paint, polish, what ? | |||
| Neil Green (Neilg)
New member Username: Neilg Post Number: 46 Registered: 2-2001 |
Mitchell, I took Magoo's advice on using "Rub and Buff". It works great! The engine looks brand new. I purchased mine from AC Moore's. Any arts and crafts store would have it. | |||
| Mitchell Minh Le (Yelcab1)
Junior Member Username: Yelcab1 Post Number: 77 Registered: 11-2001 |
Alright I'll bite. Where do I get this "Rub and Buff" stuff Magoo? Mitchell | |||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2143 Registered: 2-2001 |
You Guys really don't believe in "Rub and Buff" do you? The name throws you? Try it It's great. | |||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Junior Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 55 Registered: 12-2001 |
Wenol metal polish. It's big in the Hot/Street Rod scene. If that doesn't work, you probably need to paint it. | |||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 1699 Registered: 12-2000 |
SkipGT4: VHT Hi-Temp Engine Enamel, "SP-127 Universal Aluminum" | |||
| Ernie Bonilla (Ernie)
Junior Member Username: Ernie Post Number: 216 Registered: 11-2001 |
Try using carburator cleaner. | |||
| Skip VanDenBerg (Skipgt4)
New member Username: Skipgt4 Post Number: 15 Registered: 6-2001 |
Peter, Which of the VHT aluminum paints did you use? | |||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 1692 Registered: 12-2000 |
I would like to say Rob that my engine parts do look great with the VHT aluminum paint, but, it isn't the correct shiny finish. This paint with a smooth and soft apperance is... pretty matt. I'm not out to win concourse, so this finish suits me just fine. Still looks great as you say. | |||
| Kelly J. Vince (Tifosi1)
Junior Member Username: Tifosi1 Post Number: 157 Registered: 2-2002 |
Sorry. It did not work | |||
| Kelly J. Vince (Tifosi1)
Junior Member Username: Tifosi1 Post Number: 156 Registered: 2-2002 |
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| Kelly J. Vince (Tifosi1)
Junior Member Username: Tifosi1 Post Number: 155 Registered: 2-2002 |
Rob if you want it to look like this, you need a sandbalster using baking soda. /image{engine} | |||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2137 Registered: 2-2001 |
Paint is a pains taking process. I used Rub and Buff on my block 2 yrs ago and it still looks great. Will not burn off. I posted this before, about the Rub and Buff should be in the archives explaning the application. Great Stuff. Some of the other guys have asked me about it and used it. Magoo | |||
| Paul Sloan (Sloan83qv)
Member Username: Sloan83qv Post Number: 268 Registered: 3-2001 |
Rob, This may sound strange but I known several people who use Siver cooking grill paint which is availible at hardware stores. I have seen it applied and it is amazing how good ( and correct)it looks. Just a suggestion. | |||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 1234 Registered: 12-2000 |
I know after Peter did an engine out on his GT4 that the block looked perfect. Bobd's 328 has a perfectley shinny engine block and he hasn't done anything to it. Our only theory was that the more the miles on it, the more the heat discolors it. His has 17k miles and mine has 49k. What are all the options to get the shine back? WD-40 doesn't work, I tried that a few weeks ago. How about steel wool? Please advise. Thanks, rob |
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