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Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
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Post Number: 864
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 11:46 am:   

I agree, but they won't do that in a populated area like Bahgdad. They keep stressing the preciseness of our GPS bombs. Even Rumsfeld said this was nothing like the carpet bombing of WWII. I like the MOABS though.
Jere Dunham (Questioner)
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Post Number: 227
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 11:35 am:   

I believe a few well placed MOAB's would prove helpful. You know, completely level a block at a time of Republican guards. And how about the B-52's doing a little string bombing. Find the main line of resistance and start at one end and carpet bomb the whole area to the other end. Leave not so much as a mosquito to annoy us.
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
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Post Number: 861
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 9:57 am:   

What do you think our response will be if the Repub Gaurd uses chem weapons when we breach the imaginary red line they talk about?
1) Just keep fighting, but use our chem gear?
2) Get really pissed off and retaliate with something bigger than a machine gun?
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Post Number: 4123
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 9:52 am:   

Did you see all the soldiers that gathered to find a possible sighting of a downed pilot. I say drop some dummies in there and after about 30 minutes they should blow.
Jere Dunham (Questioner)
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Post Number: 226
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 9:25 am:   

It was reported two nights ago that the Iraqi's had held an entrenched observation point on top of a hill somewhere in Southern Iraq. From it they could train their artillery on coalition forces very accurately and could observe all that was going on in the valley below. The coalition responded with artillery fire and bombs, effectively "shaving about three feet off the top of the hill". Planes, it is reported, then came in and dropped napalm over the sight to make certain it could not be used by the Iraqi's again.
This is the first I have heard of Napalm being used in many years. Do not know if it is true or not but it was on a CNN report. I have been splitting time watching CNN and the British Broadcasting coverage. It is good seeing some coverage about our allies that CNN does not report.
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
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Post Number: 857
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 8:23 am:   

I have been wondering the same things whart, but figured I must be missing something. Also, the media is allowed to report on certain things so perhaps those tactics are in the works, but not yet public?

I agree that we have enough muscle and might and skill to roll over these guys. I think the media is sensationalizing some of the events too. For example, they blew the outta the medina troops, but all the media was saying was that we had lost a few guys to POW's and lost a helicopter.

Also, in regards to the Iraqis dressing up as civilians, usign them as human shields etc.....I say we march on Bahgdad and shoot anyone that is in the way. You gotta break a few eggs to make an omlett. Also, those people have to revolt against their captors at some point. Once we shoot anybody the bad guys will relize that it is futile and either run or fight.

A former general on the news last night said we are not trying to win the Arab sympathy vote and we don't have it now so basically get on with it. Also said that our losses are insignificant to the big picture. Still a person's child or father, but in the grand scheme we have little losses.
Robert Callahan (Rcallahan)
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Username: Rcallahan

Post Number: 137
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 1:52 am:   

BTW, the Geneva convention was in 1949, long before napalm and tv.
Robert Callahan (Rcallahan)
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Username: Rcallahan

Post Number: 136
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 1:48 am:   

Napalm is legal. The US doesn't want to use it because of the negative publicity it would receive.
Fayyaz Vellani (Fvellani)
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Post Number: 45
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 1:39 am:   

whart...from what I understand, napalm is against the Geneva convention
ken rentiers (Rentiers)
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Username: Rentiers

Post Number: 193
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 11:08 pm:   

Bill:

Fighting a 'limited war' is like kissing your sister.The Iraquis aren't pulling any punches - why should we?

I say - give them 24 hrs. to get out and nuke Baghdad until it's a lake of molten sand.

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JRV (Jrvall)
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Username: Jrvall

Post Number: 1175
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 10:58 pm:   

They were using the Choppers to gather current, first hand Intel to draw accurate co-ordinates.
wm hart (Whart)
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Username: Whart

Post Number: 826
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 9:47 pm:   

Some questions raised in my mind in light of reportage over the last few days:

1. Respecting the heavy resistance encountered by the Apache helicopers seeking to "degrade" the Medina division, why isn't the U.S. resorting to bombers?
2. To the extent the concern is "collateral damage," aren't the bombs sufficiently "smart" to be placed in close?
3. If there is any sort of "line" that can be detected by an initial pass (see more below) of helicopters,wouldn't bombs or artillery shells be placed behind that line, and be "walked" forward?
4. Why do we even need to use manned copters as cannon fodder if we can make overflights with drones, or higher altitude survelliance aircraft that can provide detailed info about enemy emplacements?
I know i betray my ignorance about matters military in asking these questions, but alot of the talking heads seem more intent on talking about POWs and the Geneva Convention than bringing our firepower to bear. I would be particularly grateful for responses from those with a military background, or knowledge. BTW, is napalm now considered illegal?

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