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Tim N (Timn88)
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Post Number: 3012
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 6:57 pm: | |
Wouldnt it have made more sense to take down the plate number and call up the department and speak with the supervisor? DES, being a jerk and giving a cop a bad lok because he doesnt signal, which results in you getting two tickets is pointless. It seems to me like all you learned about fighting tickets was to just hope that your court date is scheduled a long time after the ticket was issued.
Cops should be allowed to beat people. |
DES (Sickspeed)
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Post Number: 4098
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 6:47 pm: | |
Because, Tim, why should i sit there like a twat and not somehow show how i feel, just because Mr. Mann has a ticket book...? i did learn from my "mistake" actually - all three tickets were dismissed...! i was actually guilty of two of them...! &, i learned a whole lot more about fighting a speeding ticket by sitting in the court room... i'm armed and ready for my next court date... Mr. Mann with his badge and his gun can kiss my citizen-joe ass... |
Tim N (Timn88)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 6:39 pm: | |
It makes sense to me DES. Why go through the effort and waste your energy to be an ass when all it will do is get you tickets? The fact that you would do it all over again doesnt speak too well for you either. Usually people learn from their mistakes.
What im saying is what sense does it make to waste your energy (being an •••••••, no less)for something which accomplishes nothing only causes more agrivation? doesnt make too much sense to me.... |
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
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Post Number: 454
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 6:24 pm: | |
Hilarious!
Someone already has it in CA.. I just checked.
Sunny |
DES (Sickspeed)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 6:09 pm: | |
Peter - LMAO...! That's the funniest, most clever thing i've heard in a long time...! That's priceless...! That's funny enough to almost actually do...! LOL...!
Tim, as far as your post is concerned, if i could do it all over again, i'd still give him a dirty look... Your post doesn't make much sense... |
PeterS (Peters)
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Post Number: 429
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 6:02 pm: | |
Des...I have the perfect tag for your car!
IFORGOT
If somebody sees you ripping through town and the cop asks them for the plate #, you are off the hook |
Tim N (Timn88)
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Post Number: 3004
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:26 pm: | |
"Do you think a police officer wage is accute for someone who will put their life on the line for someone they don't know?"
The same thing goes for firemen. They dont get paid as much as cops, and i dont think their benefits are as nice. There are a corrupt cops, there is no avoiding that fact. The city i go to school in used to have one of the most corrupt depts i've ever heard of. This is just an isolated case though. Not all cops are like Denzel Washington in "Training Day"
A lieutenant in my hometown who i know well delivered a baby last year. Thats pretty heroic. My friends dad/assistant HS wreslting coach is a NYC fireman and those guys rescue babies from burning buildings. Thats alot more heroic than anything i'll ever do in my life. |
Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
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Post Number: 337
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:24 pm: | |
I did not join the Marine Corps and swear to die for all of you because of the good money.
DrS |
Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
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Post Number: 520
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 11:59 am: | |
Good post Tim
"First of all, not all firemen get paid. Im my town, they are all volounteer"
I wonder why they would do that? Because some people actually care about the well being of others with no regard to themselves. A Fireman or a Policeman does not do it for the pay. They have had a life long dream to help out and be a fireman or a policeman. or there are a small percentage of cops out there that just love the power and that is why they do it and I have to imagine these are the cops that you would have problems with not the one that comes to your house after someone has broken in and might still be there. |
Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 11:47 am: | |
Martin,
Do you think a police officer wage is accute for someone who will put their life on the line for someone they don't know? Maybe a better way to put it is how much is your life worth? or maybe your wife or children? These people are out there putting up with no respect, people bad mouthing them, hassles from the media all for what about 40,000 a year. My life is worth more than that and I'm sure so is yours or your wifes or children's lives.
You said "A hero is someone who does someting out of the extraordinary and puts his/her life ahead of others" Well isn't that what "most" police do? or maybe I should say that they should do.
"A hero is Joe Blow on the street running into a building to safe a child but he gets arrested for parole violation the next day from the "hero"-cop for failing to call his parole officer."
wasn't that guy being investigated for starting that fire? Real nice hero there you need to look at your definition of hero alittle better.
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Tim N (Timn88)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 11:39 am: | |
Martin, how can you say that cops and firemen arent heroes? First of all, not all firemen get paid. Im my town, they are all volounteer. And second, they risk their lives to save others. |
Tim N (Timn88)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 11:37 am: | |
Is it safe to assume that if you didnt give the cop a dirty look you wouldnt have been pulled over? What did giving the cop a dirty look accomplish? Hmm, well it got you some tickets. You say you are "tired of being stepped on" yet by giving the cop a dirtly look you didnt really 'stand up' against anything, but only made things worse for yourself. The whole story reminds me of some jackass who refused to show a concert security guard his ID (he was 21 and was drinking legally) when asked to verify his age. He got loud, saying he didnt have to show him anything and ended up in the drunk tank.
the moral of the story is you should keep to yourself. So what if a cop abuses his power a little. In case you didnt know, they are above the law (even more so with traffic violations).
One example is when my friend got a ticket for spinning his tires in another town. Another friend of ours father is a high up narc detective of a city's police dept. All it took was one call by him to the police station where my friend got the ticket and the ticket was gone. Priveledeges like that come with the territory. You have no idea how often i used to abuse my dad's "Official Business" parking sticker when he held a town office up until this march, which enables me to park anywhere (legally or not)in the town where i live. infact, i think its still lying around the house somewhere. My dad never used it unless hes actually on official business though. |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 11:29 am: | |
A busdriver is a hero for finding the next bus station. Yeah, give him a hand there slapper! |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 11:28 am: | |
Please, don't get me started about all the HERO business!
Heros? A hero is someone who does someting out of the extraordinary and puts his/her life ahead of others. Now the extraordinary is the key here. A police officer gets paid for his work, a firemen gets paid for his work and the dangers involved.
A hero is Joe Blow on the street running into a building to safe a child but he gets arrested for parole violation the next day from the "hero"-cop for failing to call his parole officer.
Give me a break with all that Hero crap lately! |
Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:44 am: | |
Maybe is was just a$$ ugly and that was his way of smiling at you to thank you for moving over? |
DES (Sickspeed)
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Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:41 am: | |
Pat, i totally understand your point of view, but this is the thing... i didn't give him a dirty look for no reason; i gave him a dirty look after he shot me his smug smile, after driving like an anus... If someone came into my office and gave me a dirty look, FOR NO REASON, you're right, i wouldn't be happy... But that's not what happened... He was being an ass...
i've come across several nice police officers and i've ALWAYS been very respectful... i'm just tired of being stepped on... i invite any one of you to spend a day with me, to see how syrupy sweet i am and polite and ever so PC and yadda yadda... i'm just at my end with assh0le, power-abusing cops...
Can anyone tell me what you do with a 6 foot assh0le..? |
Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:27 am: | |
Des,
Not all cops are bad. Granted there are some out there that will abuse their power, but for the most part they are really heros that most people still look up to. My father worked for 30 years as a policeman and I went through all the training just to stop short because I saw the lack of respect for law enforcement these days. 20 years ago most to 90%of the people respected the police. Now a policemen (or Policewomen sorry Birdie and Nika)doesn't have that same respect and the bad guys out there have the upper hand so maybe that is where some of these cops have such an attidude. (not trying to make excuses for the cop) But most of them still will show a level of compassion if you treat them with respect and be polite and after all shouldn't we be polite to one another instead of giving someone a dirty look. Now you really don't know where the cop that gave you those tickets in Dec was going he might have been on his way to back up one of his partners or maybe he was setting himself up to join a chase that was close by. And you giving him a dirty look was maybe a lack of respect that he didn't need to see. I mean how would you like it if someone came into your office while you were doing your work and got in your way and then gave YOU a dirty look? and again not trying to make exscuse for the cop Ihave met a few that were less than polite in my time also.
Just my .02 DES no offense buddy |
DES (Sickspeed)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:06 am: | |
All this name-calling is making me hungry... |
Schnelles Fr�ulein (Miss_m_treiber)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:03 am: | |
well atleast from that i learned how to edit a post CHEESEHEAD! |
DES (Sickspeed)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:00 am: | |
Did what...? What are you talking about...? |
Schnelles Fr�ulein (Miss_m_treiber)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 9:55 am: | |
i cant believe you did that. you are so cheesy. |
DES (Sickspeed)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 9:54 am: | |
'S what i said...
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Schnelles Fr�ulein (Miss_m_treiber)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 9:51 am: | |
liapum?
you mean "lie upon lie upon lie"
stop tryin to be cool |
DES (Sickspeed)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 9:47 am: | |
i don't need to; nobody's perfect, cops included; they don't need to be such irate, power-abusing pricks...
lie upon lie upon lie upon lie... |
Schnelles Fr�ulein (Miss_m_treiber)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 9:43 am: | |
i dont care who gets paid what, you could never pay me enough to never see my daughter again. and how much do you really know about what goes on? you're so quick to run your mouth about "pigs" but have you ever walked a day in their shoes? |
DES (Sickspeed)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 9:36 am: | |
Ok, let me get this story straight, once and for all...
i'm on the parkway; cop comes up behind me from out of nowhere, tailgating me like i just shot another officer; i realize he's a cop ('cause i wasn't sure at first) and figure he's got somewhere to go... i hastily make a lane change so he can go by; he SHOULD HAVE used his lights if he needed to get somewhere, but he didn't; as he pssed me, he gave me a smug smile, so i, in turn, gave him a nasty look... He wasn't in a rush, he was just abusing his power... That pissed me off... My lane of traffic caught up to his and when he looked over at me, i gave him another dirty look; THEN he pulled me over... he never had any intention of pulling me over... If you think i instigated this, then, well... you're allowed to have an opinion and i'll try to leave it at that...
Jeff, i appreciate the compliments, thank you; i hope these details shed some new light on the story and i apologize for not mentioning them from the beginning... Doc, i hope this is a little clearer on your end, too...
Martin, it's nice to know that someone feels similar to how i feel... i'm tired of being the kick-around citizen...
Birdie, the average Long Island cop gets paid THREE TIMES that of a city cop; city cops put their lives in danger... There's not a whole lot of danger out here on the island... Granted, there are some really nasty areas, but still, nothing like the city... They all abuse their power out here and act like pricks, to boot... i know, i know, you just like the lights and sirens... |
Schnelles Fr�ulein (Miss_m_treiber)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 9:24 am: | |
what everyone fails to mention here is that these "pig pricks" put there life on the line for us. and yes, many do take advantage.. but the way i see it: if a cop is willing to die for me, hell i dont really mind if he uses his lights once in awhile to blow a light. |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 9:15 am: | |
DES I have to agree with you in some respect. Today you see a lot of Police outlaw behaviour. Beatings, forcing confessions (they just released a kid down here after sitting 12 years in jail), cops speeding in patrol car or their private vehicles and never getting tickets. They are mostly also not buckled up, I guess their life is not worth as much as they think mine must be to give me a ticket for that.
We have a lot of police hypocritical behaviour. That pisses me off as well.
I was driving the other day and a cop in his criser comes flying out of nowhere. 4 lanes and all of them had traffic going speedlimit. He is trailling this poor guy at 45Mph with about a yard of distance between bumpers trying to force him to speed up just to get out of his way. He was not in his juriusdiction and not in an emergency, just late for work I guess. I was so pissed I was thinking about going to the Chief and complain about that idiot!
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Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 11:44 pm: | |
I agree.
D, your facts seem to be at the best, uncoordinated.
And if I were you I would be petrified of the charge I spoke of below. Prison is not a very nice place.
DrS
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Jeff B. (Miltonian)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 11:06 pm: | |
Wow, DES - sorry I dogged you, dude!
From your post of 5/8 9:30AM:
"...he initially didn't pull me over; it was only after I gave him a dirty look that he decided to be a pig prick..."
Doesn't say anything about his reckless driving putting your life in danger, doesn't give any indiction that he acted like a Nazi.
I enjoy your posts, DES. You're obviously a smart guy, you have a great sense of humor, your enthusiasm is terrific. And I have to tell you, that post of yours this afternoon pretty much reads as nonsense from where I'm sitting. |
DES (Sickspeed)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 7:01 pm: | |
Doc, it has nothing to do with going to another country where things are better, it has to do with things SHOULD BE better HERE... i'm not one of those whose thankful for my 'freedoms' - i pay dearly for all of them and don't need to be polite about it, after the fact... Please don't think i'm barking at you- i'm not... It's the government that gets under my skin... |
Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 6:58 pm: | |
What other country would you go to where things are better??
DrS |
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 6:52 pm: | |
Hey, if it was late at night or early in the morning where no other cars are on the road, great! I'm sorry you got caught.
If your being mindful of where you speed, where its just you and the road, and no chance of injuring another, then I'm sorry. I understood from earlier posts it was in the daytime, speeding in zones where there if you don't see cars right around you, there will be when the light turns. I don't think NYC is much better then traffic in Los Angeles, which means, its so congested on the roads you don't speed unless everyone else is.
Sunny |
DES (Sickspeed)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 6:48 pm: | |
LMAO, Doc, thanks for the perspective... In many ways, the government gets as close to that as possible, in much more subtle ways... |
Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 6:47 pm: | |
D,
A Nazi government would not have given you a day in court. They would have pulled you out of the car and shot you.
DrS |
DES (Sickspeed)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 6:11 pm: | |
quote:DES, take a chill pill.
i ran out of those, remember...?
LU2, Birdie. |
Schnelles Fr�ulein (Miss_m_treiber)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 6:09 pm: | |
but yeah, i love you and you need to slow down.
"vehicular menace" |
Schnelles Fr�ulein (Miss_m_treiber)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 6:07 pm: | |
really, i dont understand why you agitate yourself so much. as long as you feel good about what YOU do on the road, no ones opinion here should matter. |
DES (Sickspeed)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 6:05 pm: | |
Yes, Birdie. |
Schnelles Fr�ulein (Miss_m_treiber)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 6:03 pm: | |
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Schnelles Fr�ulein (Miss_m_treiber)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 6:02 pm: | |
DES, take a chill pill. |
DES (Sickspeed)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 5:10 pm: | |
quote:And I certainly don't provoke Police officers by giving them dirty looks, as DES admits he did.
Jeff, seriously...? i gave him a dirty look because his reckless driving put my life in danger... Ok, maybe that's a slight exaggeration, but still... i'm just suppose to tolerate it...? This is what pisses me off so much about americans and their stupid nazi government... "No, don't give the cop a dirty look, he'll 'get' you!" So what, i have every right to give him a dirty look if he's gonna be an assh0le while getting paid with MY TAXES...
quote:DES, I know this latest incident wasn't about speeding, but from what you said, there wouldn't have been an incident at all if you hadn't started one. I don't see how you come out a winner here.
This isn't my latest incident, it happened back on December 15th and i was just called for court last week, which is why it was dismissed; THAT'S how i come out a winner, here. & please understand, i did not start anything. The police officer (to protect and serve and yadda yadda) was the one who provoked me... Why should i just be lame p_ssy assh0le who sits there and takes it like a spineless b!tch 'cause Mr. Man has a badge and a gun...? F_ck him, f_ck the courts, the judges, the government, they're all phalluses; i'm my own person and i'll give dirty looks to whoever...
quote:there's a history of disregard for not just the law, but his safety, and the safety of others.
Sunny, i try to be as mindful as possible in regards to the safety of others; i have no DESire to kill someone...
It's funny how the older folks can say, "yeah, i did that when i was your age and it was stupid", but can still find room to chastise me... What's the best way to learn something...? Do it yourself...? Maybe one day i'll ease up and relax a bit... i need a new transmission for a car i've only owned for 3 months... i'm learning the hardway, every step of the way... That should help my 'lesson plan', right...? A lot of you are very quick on the gun to shoot judgment about tickets or speed; my (high) speeding occurs very late at night or very early in the morning, when the road is clear... i prefer it when no one else is around, they just hinder the experience...
i only know of one person who has NEVER received any kind of ticket in her 20+ years of driving, and she doesn't post here, so what's with the stone-throwing...? & to say that i should plead guilty to the ticket, just 'cause i am, makes no sense... If you ever received a ticket and didn't try to fight if you thought you could win it, then you're a fool; the system is DESigned to f_ck you; i pled not guilty and all three tickets were dismissed... i didn't get f_cked... i'll refrain from keeping you all 'posted' on how my other two speeding offenses go, along with my dirty license plate summons and the suspended registration summons... Dirty license plate, suspended registration, expired inspection sticker, broken head light, (phantom) use of cell phone while driving - yeah, i'm a real menace... Sigh...
How come no one's over here, busting his balls...? |
Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 12:10 am: | |
I used to be a cop. I never anyone for a head light unless they either had none or did something else. (Like cuss me out.)
What state do you live in? If you get to many in a short time, they can hit you with "habitual offender" and that can carry SERIOUS no parole jail time!!!!
DrS |
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 11:55 pm: | |
Martin, did you read Dan's post regarding his speeding problem? He says he can't stop... 2 tickets don't land you $5,300/yr insurance on a Saturn, my friend. Dan has a bit more history then 2 tickets or one instance of provoking a police officer.
Dan claims he can't stop speeding. Its an obsession and a problem. After saying that not even a month ago (or so?), he gives a police officer a dirty look and got razzed back for it.
To claim, "I can't stop speeding." Yes, you can. If you won't, Uncle Sam will.
Its not a just a dirty look landing you a few tickets, there's a history of disregard for not just the law, but his safety, and the safety of others.
Getting caught at the wrong place, wrong time happens to all of us. Over and over again and its beyond meer coincidence. Know what I'm saying?
I speed 5mph faster, sometimes 10mph, then traffic around me. Thats my key to never being ticketed... go with the flow of traffic, just a little faster. The track is cheaper and better for your record.
It comes down to time and place and using your judgement before the rev limiter.
Sunny |
Jeff B. (Miltonian)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 1:19 pm: | |
Martin: I think DES has more than two speeding tickets! And yes, we all have speeding tickets. Personally, I've been driving since 1968, and I have 1 (one), for 46 in a 35 zone, about 25 years ago. I've never been ticketed or even stopped in my Ferrari. I drive it in a "spirited" manner that doesn't endanger myself or fellow drivers. And I certainly don't provoke Police officers by giving them dirty looks, as DES admits he did.
DES, I know this latest incident wasn't about speeding, but from what you said, there wouldn't have been an incident at all if you hadn't started one. I don't see how you come out a winner here. |
DES (Sickspeed)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 12:20 pm: | |
Thanks, Martin... i appreciate it. |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 11:54 am: | |
You guys are getting off the Off-Topic section here.
Having a ticket or summons for a dirty license plate, a broken headlight, driving with a cell phone and an inspection sticker expired qualified for being unsafe and dumb and and idiot and whatever you call DES here?
You call him unsafe for having 2 speeding tickets? Let me be clear here, you ALL had speeding tickets. You all had tried to wheezle your way out of it, you all got ticket because a cop was simply an arsehole!
What is wrong here?
"I drive my 308 at speedlimit or just below..." Now here is a car with 2nd gear syncro probelms. There is a 3rd, 4th and 5th grear on the 308 you know. If you have ever used it you were TOO FAST!
Des is young and will need some more experience driving and knowledge where the radar traps are. Of course at 40 you do not get as many tickets as with 20. That does not mean we are not having our "secret spot" where we open the car up on a public road, endangering hypothetical people! |
PeterS (Peters)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 11:38 am: | |
Let me throw this out:
I tend to drive my 308 at the speed limit or a bit slower most of the time. When people see a car (such as mine), the last thing they expect is to see is it moving at the limit or with the flow. Living in a small town, I gain more respect (in regard to my driving habbits)when I keep my nose clean behind the wheel Vs 'Hey, there's that jerk hot-shot with the Ferrari'(Des, NO implication that you are a jerk). |
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
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| | Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 3:43 am: | |
Dan, you wouldn't get so much •••• from posting something like this if you didn't self proclaim yourself having a speeding problem. Not just a ticket or two, but repeated offense after offense and claim you can't stop. Your flagrant about it.
In my opinion, that makes you a dangerous driver and thats why I give a thumbs up to those giving you •••• when you draw attention to your driving record.
With some better judgement behind the wheel, you won't be getting tickets, especially ones like these.
I don't know you, maybe its not true, but after all you've said about your record, I'm just calling it like I see it. |
Vincent (Vincent348)
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Post Number: 280
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 10:25 pm: | |
I can't believe you keep your license plate dirty.
Have a little more respect for your car, DES.
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jake diamond (Rampante)
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Username: Rampante
Post Number: 113
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 10:11 pm: | |
"the speeders I'll plead not guilty to, and try to b.s. my way through them"
BUT, if you really are guilty, would not the mature thing be to tell the truth and pay the piper ?
Jake |
arthur chambers (Art355)
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Username: Art355
Post Number: 1565
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 6:19 pm: | |
Des:
If you read all of my post, you'll see, I've been there. Doesn't mean you aren't a danger, just that I've been there to. As I got older, I got a little more sense, that's all. (maybe not as much as I should have, but more than when I was in my 20s).
Art |
DES (Sickspeed)
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Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 3931
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 5:45 pm: | |
Peter, thank you... i think there's slightly more criticism in here than there should be, but i'm okay with that...
i think, considering the amount of miles i put on my car and the area in which i live, the amount of tickets i have/have gotten isn't so bad...
Arthur, i pay attention to everything, i don't have a radar detector and there are seldom people in front of me - .
Ken, you still never chimed back in with a smiley face. Why not...?
i have two speeding tickets i need to take care of and two summonses that need to be addressed. The speeders i'll plead not guilty to and try to bullsh!t my way through them; the two summonses are for: Driving an uninsured vehicle (which was untrue, the vehicle was insured, my broker f_cked up and the situation has since been alleviated; i've proof that this is so) and a dirty license plate - i have to show up to court 'cause my license plate was dirty. Does that make me an unsafe driver...? Does that make me dangerous or a hazard to the people around me...?
All in all, i think there's some undue heat here and i've seen some of you make mention of driving that can't really be considered safe in any way and i also don't see so much harping from you guys, on others who make mention of 'triple digit' speeding tickets and such... |
arthur chambers (Art355)
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Username: Art355
Post Number: 1561
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 5:06 pm: | |
California they have 45 days from the plea to trial. If they don't get you to trial by then, dismissed.
Having said that, DES, you are getting too many tickets, given what you're driving. If I had to guess, you are either not paying attention to the on ramps, your radar detector, or the people in front of you. If you are doing all of those things, I think that you may be a danger to those around you, due to your driving.
I've seen all of this before, in my 20s I got over 100 tickets. The Pavolian method of behavior changing, get tickets, lose license, drive anyway, but very, very carefully so you don't get stopped. End result: more careful driver.
Art |
Randall (Randall)
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Username: Randall
Post Number: 436
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 8:04 pm: | |
I said dangerous on the road, not idiot... but lets all compare how many tickets each of us have on our record. I haven't gotten a ticket in the last 3 years, doesn't mean I'm safe, but it does mean I've been somewhat careful and lucky.
When a person ends up with a fist full of tickets, I can't say that they're a good driver. Good drivers don't get caught that often. |
Peter Sedlak (Peters)
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Post Number: 388
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 7:20 pm: | |
Ken, Randall & Tim ...Whats with the ball-busting here? Des gets popped for a broken head light, expired inspection sticker & using cell phone while driving and you guys call him an complete idiot and an unsafe driver? Com'on now! OK, I don't know the guy and for all I know, he has three drive-by shootings and a 'mooning' on his record, but it seems your venacular in this forum may be a bit out of line. I drive like a bat out of hell at times, but not as a rule..Hell, we ALL do it! |
Tim N (Timn88)
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Username: Timn88
Post Number: 2974
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 12:16 am: | |
I agree. You are an unsafe driver from the way you describe it.. Stay off my roads! If you want to wipe yourself out of the gene pool by driving like a fool, dont do it near me! Do the world a favor and dont take my seed out with you! |
DES (Sickspeed)
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Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 3896
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 4:59 pm: | |
Did you see what Randall said, Ken...? That wasn't so hard, was it, Randall...? No. You voiced your opinion; didn't make assumptions, just alluded to your inferences with phrases like "sounds like" and "a bit too" and "had to guess". There's nothing wrong with that; a little presumptuous, at best, but still fair... & no name calling, either... Randall, how'd you manage to do that...? You didn't offend me, at all and still managed to say what you wanted to...
Ken, maybe you can learn from Randall's example and do as he did, in the future. You know, without the name calling and yadda yadda... Maybe Randall wouldn't mind giving you tutorials through email or some phone lessons on ettiquette... Then you'd be all grown up...! |
Randall (Randall)
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Post Number: 402
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 4:46 pm: | |
I hate to say it, but it sounds like you are a bit too dangerous on the road. You're always talking about the tickets you get, and if I had to guess, even if they suspended your license you would still drive. |
DES (Sickspeed)
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Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 3894
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:45 pm: | |
When i have more time, i'll explain what happened; i really didn't do anything, it was just dismissed...
Ken, where's the smiley face...? Surely you're joking... You're more mature than that, to name-call and make frivolous accusations and comments without substantiating them... So, you should post a smiley face. |
Ken Ross (Kdross)
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Post Number: 347
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:15 pm: | |
DES:
You are a comnplete idiot and should not be driving.
Ken
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Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
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Post Number: 496
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:40 pm: | |
Congrats |
TomD (Tifosi)
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Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 3560
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:20 pm: | |
what happened!!!, how did you do it |
Dave (Maranelloman)
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Post Number: 1461
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:17 pm: | |
Congrats, man.
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DES (Sickspeed)
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Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 3893
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:11 pm: | |
DISMISSED...!!!
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TomD (Tifosi)
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Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 3551
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 9:38 am: | |
Des, I recently asked this same question - I waited six months
see
http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/132929/241164.html?1051813747
Whart put me in touch with a lawyer who gave me some further advice |
ross koller (Ross)
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Username: Ross
Post Number: 1187
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 9:33 am: | |
so was your headlight busted? was your inspection sticker expired? did you have a cell phone in your hands? |
DES (Sickspeed)
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Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 3888
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 9:30 am: | |
No, i won't avoid it, i hate putting things like this, off. i just want to go and get it over with... It's a long story, but he gave me three tickets; broken head light, expired inspection sticker & using cell phone while driving (that one wasn't true). i pled not guilty to all of them because i felt harassed and disregarded and he initially didn't pull me over; it was only after i gave him a dirty look that he decided to be a pig prick... But this is 5 months, already; how can they justify making me wait that long...? |
William H (Countachxx)
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Username: Countachxx
Post Number: 2516
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 9:27 am: | |
what is it regarding ? Actually the further away the court date is from the infraction date is in YOUR favor. This is cus the Cop may forget what it was about or may not bother to show up. Tell them you have the flue or your Grandma died and you need a continuance to push it a few months further down the road |
DES (Sickspeed)
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Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 3887
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 9:24 am: | |
My presence has been requested at the Traffic Violations Bureau this afternoon, for some things i pleaded not guilty to, way back in December (12/15/02). Are they allowed to schedule my hearing this far away from the date of the incident...? Is there any way i can use that to my defense, claiming that it's been so long since the incident occurred...? |