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Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member
Username: Deleteall
Post Number: 268
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 10:07 pm: | |
Liberals always think more money is the answer. Here's a link detailing the fiasco with the Kansas City schools. Warning: you'll be pi$$ed after reading it.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-298.html |
Randall (Randall)
Member
Username: Randall
Post Number: 460
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 10:04 pm: | |
The challenging part is fixing public schools. I've heard some of the arguements given as to why they suck; standards drop to the lowest common denominator, students that don't speak English well slowing the class up, too large of classrooms, etc.
But how can it be fixed besides privatizing all schools? I'd like to see a national uniform for all schools; with just a minor change in the uniform for school colors/insignia. |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member
Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 1564
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 9:56 pm: | |
Jason, you ought to axcquire a rudimentary familiarity wioth the facts BEFORE you spout off.
Fact: Washington, DC already spends far more per pupil than ANY school district in the US--well over $10,000--and yet they still have the stoooopidest, least-achieving students. MONEY IS NOT THE ISSUE, and more money has NEVER improved public schools. At least not with the NEA & the entrenched cheeto-eating public education bureaucracy in place. See other threads on this topic.
Fact: Washington, DC is owned & controlled by you & me--the federal governement. It is a Federal district. Under law, we own huge chunks of land there on which are Federal buildings, parks, etc. Now, are you REALLY interested in paying higher Federal taxes in order that these properties not be exempt from DC property taxes. Think it through, Jason; that is EXACTLY what would happen. And it's not like we don't already spend tens of billions of dollars every year to prop up that cesspool of humanity, DC's, perpetually bankrupt, corrupt city "government"... Jason, do you have any idea where the property taxes paid by the federal government come from? I for one am not interested in increasing my already-too-high subsidy of the highest-spending-per-pupil-but-lowest-achieving-per-pupil school district in the whole country. Are you?
Please forgive my abruptness...but I am sick & tired of liberal wankers who seem to think that taxes grow on trees, and that by just increasing taxes & the cesspool of government squandering, er, spending, everything will be better. Hasn't worked in 40 years, and it never will. |
Randall (Randall)
Member
Username: Randall
Post Number: 457
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 8:28 pm: | |
Found it..... ~$6k for public and less ($3-5k depend on article) for private. Wierd, I always thought private schools cost more. |
Randall (Randall)
Member
Username: Randall
Post Number: 456
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 8:11 pm: | |
How much do private schools usually cost per student? And how does this compare to public school dollar per student cost? |
DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member
Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 4025
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 8:03 pm: | |
quote:...is occupied by tax exempt buildings (i.e. gov't buildings)
Does anyone see anything wrong with that...? Can someone tell me why that is...? |
Jason Wesoky (Wesokyjb)
Junior Member
Username: Wesokyjb
Post Number: 100
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 10:08 am: | |
The key here is that the vouchers would give additional funds to D.C. The biggest problem in D.C. is that the vast majority of the land is occupied by tax exempt buildings (i.e. gov't buildings), so there are no property taxes to pay for schools. D.C. needs a lot of help, but I don't think giving a poor family $5k in vouchers to attend Gonzaga High School, which costs about $18k a year, is going to help any. What D.C. needs to do is pass a commuter tax so all those people living outside of D.C but work in D.C. and pay no D.C. taxes end up paying some D.C. taxes to pay for the upkeep of the roads, parks and schools in that city. Kind of like they do in Boston (I think). |
ross koller (Ross)
Intermediate Member
Username: Ross
Post Number: 1211
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 8:10 am: | |
love that line about 'not getting paid to sit around and watch oprah and eat cheetos'....guess he's seen a few of his colleagues at 'work' then... |
Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member
Username: Drstranglove
Post Number: 320
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 5:07 pm: | |
Hehehehe!!!!
DrS |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member
Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 1526
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 1:19 pm: | |
about all of the $$$$$ we keep pouring down the rathole of the public education bureaucracy establishment, with NO positive effect, and tells the NEA to pound sand:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,86689,00.html |