| Author | Message | ||
| Vincent (Vincent348)
Member Username: Vincent348 Post Number: 422 Registered: 4-2003 |
LOL Damn did it again. | ||
| Vincent (Vincent348)
Member Username: Vincent348 Post Number: 421 Registered: 4-2003 |
I think I get an assist! (free post) | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 469 Registered: 4-2003 |
The short version is... With out money, we must either take things by force of arms, or pity of tears. (Free Post!!) DrS | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 979 Registered: 9-2001 |
Just more random crap off the web.  | ||
| Vincent (Vincent348)
Member Username: Vincent348 Post Number: 417 Registered: 4-2003 |
Dr. Unfortunately that was worth only one post. Maybe you should post the shorter version.  | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 468 Registered: 4-2003 |
Well, I thought you WANTED some hate mail!!!! Hehehehehhee!!! DrS | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 978 Registered: 9-2001 |
Money works for Robert Tilton. He's not a bad guy!  | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 977 Registered: 9-2001 |
Geez Doc, chill out. I'm just adding to this thread. | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 467 Registered: 4-2003 |
You are wrong about money!!! So you think that money is the root of all evil? Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can't exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil? When you accept money in payment for your effort, you do so only on the conviction that you will exchange it for the product of the effort of others. It is not the moochers or the looters who give value to money. Not an ocean of tears nor all the guns in the world can transform those pieces of paper in your wallet into the bread you will need to survive tomorrow. Those pieces of paper, which should have been gold, are a token of honor- your claim upon the energy of the men who produce. Your wallet is your statement of hope that somewhere in the world around you there are men who will not default on that moral principle which is the root of money. Is this what you consider evil? Have you ever looked for the root of production? Take a look at an electric generator and dare tell yourself that it was created by the muscular effort of unthinking brutes. Try to grow a seed of wheat without the knowledge left to you by men who had to discover it for the first time. Try to obtain your food by means of nothing but physical motions- and you'll learn that man's mind is the root of all the goods produced and of all the wealth that has ever existed on earth. But you say that money is made by the strong at the expense of the weak? What strength do you mean? It is not the strength of guns or muscles. Wealth is the product of man's capacity to think. Then is money made by the man who invents a motor at the expense of those who did not invent it? Is money made by the intelligent at the expense of the fools? By the able at the expense of the incompetent? By the ambitious at the expense of the lazy? Money is made- before it can be looted or mooched- made by the effort of every honest man, each to the extent of his ability. An honest man is one who knows that he can't consume more than he has produced. To trade by means of money is the code of the men of good will. Money rests on the axiom that every man is the owner of his mind and his effort. Money allows no power to prescribe the value of your effort except by the voluntary choice of the man who is willing to trade you his effort in return. Money permits you to obtain for your goods and your labor that which they are worth to the men who buy them, but no more. Money permits no deals except those to mutual benefit by the unforced judgment of the traders. Money demands of you the recognition that men must work for their own benefit, not for their own injury, for their gain, not their loss- the recognition that they are not beasts of burden, born to carry the weight of your misery- that you must offer them values, not wounds- that the common bond among men is not the exchange of suffering, but the exchange of GOODS. Money demands that you sell, not your weakness to men's stupidity, but your talent to their reason; it demands that you buy, not the shoddiest they offer, but the best your money can find. And when men live by trade- with reason, not force, as their final arbiter--it is the best product that wins, the best performance, then man of best judgment and highest ability- and the degree of a man's productiveness is the degree of his reward. This is the code of existence whose tool and symbol is money. Is this what you consider evil? But money is only a tool. It will take you wherever you wish, but it will not replace you as the driver. It will give you the means for the satisfaction of your desires, but it will not provide you with desires. Money is the scourge of the men who attempt to reverse the law of causality- the men who seek to replace the mind by seizing the products of the mind. Money will not purchase happiness for the man who has no concept of what he wants; money will not give him a code of values, if he's evaded the knowledge of what to value, and it will not provide him with a purpose, if he's evaded the choice of what to seek. Money will not buy intelligence for the fool, or admiration for the coward, or respect for the incompetent. The man who attempts to purchase the brains of his superiors to serve him, with his money replacing his judgment, ends up by becoming the victim of his inferiors. The men of intelligence desert him, but the cheats and the frauds come flocking to him, drawn by a law which he has not discovered: that no man may be smaller than his money. Is this the reason why you call it evil? Only the man who does not need it, is fit to inherit wealth- the man who would make his own fortune no matter where he started. If an heir is equal to his money, it serves him; if not, it destroys him. But you look on and you cry that money corrupted him. Did it? Or did he corrupt his money? Do not envy a worthless heir; his wealth is not yours and you would have done no better with it. Do not think that it should have been distributed among you; loading the world with fifty parasites instead of one, would not bring back the dead virtue which was the fortune. Money is a living power that dies without its root. Money will not serve that mind that cannot match it. Is this the reason why you call it evil? Money is your means of survival. The verdict which you pronounce upon the source of your livelihood is the verdict you pronounce upon your life. If the source is corrupt, you have damned your own existence. Did you get your money by fraud? By pandering to men's vices or men's stupidity? By catering to fools, in the hope of getting more than your ability deserves? By lowering your standards? By doing work you despise for purchasers you scorn? If so, then your money will not give you a moment's or a penny's worth of joy. Then all the things you buy will become, not a tribute to you, but a reproach; not an achievement, but a reminder of shame. Then you'll scream that money is evil. Evil, because it would not pinch-hit for your self-respect? Evil, because it would not let you enjoy your depravity? Is this the root of your hatred of money? Money will always remain an effect and refuse to replace you as the cause. Money is the product of virtue, but it will not give you virtue and it will not redeem your vices. Money will not give you the unearned, neither in matter nor in spirit. Is this the root of your hatred of money? Or did you say it's the love of money that's the root of all evil? To love a thing is to know and love its nature. To love money is to know and love the fact that money is the creation of the best power within you, and your passkey to trade your effort for the effort of the best among men. It's the person who would sell his soul for a nickel, who is the loudest in proclaiming his hatred of money- and he has good reason to hate it. The lovers of money are willing to work for it. They know they are able to deserve it." Let me give you a tip on a clue to men's characters: the man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it. Run for your life from any man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter. So long as men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another- their only substitute, demands of you the highest virtues, if you wish to make it or to keep it. Men who have no courage, pride, or self-esteem, men who have no moral sense of their right to their money and are not willing to defend it as they defend their life, men who apologize for being rich- will not remain rich for long. They are the natural bait for the swarms of looters that stay under rocks for centuries, but come crawling out at the first smell of a man who begs to be forgiven for the guilt of owning wealth. They will hasten to relieve him of the guilt- and of his life, as he deserves. Then you will see the rise of the double standard--the men who live by force, yet count on those who live by trade to create the value of their looted money- the men who are the hitchhikers of virtue. In a moral society, these are the criminals, and the statutes are written to protect you against them. But when a society establishes criminals-by-right and looters-by-law- men who use force to seize the wealth of disarmed victims- then money becomes its creators' avenger. Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once they've passed a law to disarm them. But their loot becomes the magnet for other looters, who get it from them as they got it. Then the race goes, not to the ablest at production, but to those most ruthless at brutality. When force is the standard, the murderer wins over the pickpocket. And then that society vanishes, in a spread of ruins and slaughter. Do you wish to know whether that day is coming? Watch money. Money is the barometer of a society's virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion- when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing- when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors- when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you- when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice- you may know that your society is doomed. Money is so noble a medium that it does not compete with guns and it does not make terms with brutality. It will not permit a country to survive as half-property, half-loot. Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men's protection and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values. Gold was an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper is a mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by a gun aimed at those who are expected to produce it. Paper is a check drawn by legal looters upon an account which is not theirs: upon the virtue of the victims. Watch for the day when it bounces, marked: 'Account overdrawn.' When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, 'Who is destroying the world?' You are. You stand in the midst of the greatest achievements of the greatest productive civilization and you wonder why it's crumbling around you, while your damning its life-blood- money. You look upon money as the savages did before you, and you wonder why the jungle is creeping back to the edge of your cities. Throughout men's history, money was always seized by looters of one brand or another, but whose method remained the same: to seize wealth by force and to keep the producers bound, demeaned, defamed, deprived of honor. That phrase about the evil of money, which you mouth with such righteous recklessness, comes from a time when wealth was produced by the labor of slaves- slaves who repeated the motions once discovered by somebody's mind and left unimproved for centuries. So long as production was ruled by force, and wealth was obtained by conquest, there was little to conquer. Yet through all the centuries of stagnation and starvation, men exalted the looters, as aristocrats of the sword, as aristocrats of birth, as aristocrats of the bureau, and despised the producers, as slaves, as traders, as shopkeepers- as industrialists. To the glory of mankind, there was, for the first and only time in history, a country of money- and I have no higher, more reverent tribute to pay to America, for this means: a country of reason, justice, freedom, production, achievement. For the first time, man's mind and money were set free, and there were no fortunes-by-conquest, but only fortunes-by-work, and instead of swordsmen and slaves, there appeared the real maker of wealth, the greatest worker, the highest type of human being- the self-made man- the American industrialist. If you ask me to name the proudest distinction of Americans, I would choose- because it contains all the others--the fact that they were the people who created the phrase 'to make money.' No other language or nation had ever used these words before; men had always thought of wealth as a static quantity- to be seized, begged, inherited, shared, looted, or obtained as a favor. Americans were the first to understand that wealth has to be created. The words 'to make money' hold the essence of human morality. Yet these were the words for which Americans were denounced by the rotted cultures of the looters' continents. Now the looters' credo has brought you to regard your proudest achievements as a hallmark of shame, your prosperity as guilt, your greatest men, the industrialists, as blackguards and your magnificent factories as the product and property of muscular labor, the labor of whip-driven slaves, like the pyramids of Egypt. The rotter who simpers that he sees no difference between the power of the dollar and the power of the whip, ought to learn the difference on his own hide- as, I think, he will. Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Blood, whips and guns- or dollars. Take your choice- there is no other- and your time is running out." {My favorite part of the book!!!} DrS | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 976 Registered: 9-2001 |
I'm gonna get some hate mail for this one.  | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 975 Registered: 9-2001 |
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| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 974 Registered: 9-2001 |
Another one  | ||
| Steven Pham (Stevendp)
Junior Member Username: Stevendp Post Number: 77 Registered: 11-2001 |
Yes they are for real, I got them off another forum. Some of the free stuff I registered for are dupe, but others are real. I am still waiting for my Field and Stream. When registering for free stuff do not use your normal email address as for junk mail you'll probably will receive some, but I use Joseph Blow as my name to keep track of how much junk mail I get from these freebies. | ||
| Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
Member Username: Tbakowsky Post Number: 405 Registered: 9-2002 |
I still like boobs | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 449 Registered: 4-2003 |
Pic no workie!!!! DrS | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 971 Registered: 9-2001 |
Damn, why didn't see this thread before? Ok, here goes. Useless stuff coming at ya.  | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 447 Registered: 4-2003 |
Likely BS. DrS | ||
| Michael (Mtabije)
Member Username: Mtabije Post Number: 290 Registered: 10-2001 |
Hey, Steve, are these subscribtions for real? Or will I will be forever blasted with SPAM and junk mail? | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 438 Registered: 4-2003 |
Steven's going for 100!!!!! DrS | ||
| Steven Pham (Stevendp)
Junior Member Username: Stevendp Post Number: 76 Registered: 11-2001 |
Free 2 years of Field and Stream. http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/fieldstream_fm.asp | ||
| Steven Pham (Stevendp)
Junior Member Username: Stevendp Post Number: 75 Registered: 11-2001 |
Free 2 years of Stuff http://complimentarymagazines.com/cgi-bin/create_form.cgi?setup=stuff | ||
| Steven Pham (Stevendp)
Junior Member Username: Stevendp Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2001 |
Free samples for you boaters and pilots. Aircraft Glass Cleaner Visual Diplay Cleaner Biocidal Display Cleaner etc. http://www.alglas.com/free_samples_form.htm | ||
| Steven Pham (Stevendp)
Junior Member Username: Stevendp Post Number: 73 Registered: 11-2001 |
Free 2 years of Maxim http://complimentarymagazines.com/cgi-bin/create_form.cgi?setup=maxim24 | ||
| Steven Pham (Stevendp)
Junior Member Username: Stevendp Post Number: 72 Registered: 11-2001 |
Free 46 issue subscription to Golf World magazine. http://www.magscentral.com/golfworld/ | ||
| Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
Junior Member Username: Arizonaguy Post Number: 105 Registered: 4-2003 |
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| Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
Junior Member Username: Arizonaguy Post Number: 104 Registered: 4-2003 |
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| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 1074 Registered: 12-2002 |
Im really curious where you guys get those funny pictures. All I can find on the internet are pictures of stupid things, but I love the kinds of funny images that can relate to responding to a thread somehow... | ||
| Michael (Mtabije)
Member Username: Mtabije Post Number: 289 Registered: 10-2001 |
since i've been relatively inactive for the past ohhhhhhh YEAR!  | ||
| Michael (Mtabije)
Member Username: Mtabije Post Number: 288 Registered: 10-2001 |
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| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 994 Registered: 10-2001 |
Drooling !!   | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 413 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hahahahahaha!!! DrS | ||
| Amir H. (355spiderman)
Junior Member Username: 355spiderman Post Number: 110 Registered: 5-2002 |
Heres something Dr.Stranglove will love...  | ||
| Amir H. (355spiderman)
Junior Member Username: 355spiderman Post Number: 109 Registered: 5-2002 |
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| Amir H. (355spiderman)
Junior Member Username: 355spiderman Post Number: 108 Registered: 5-2002 |
..... | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 989 Registered: 10-2001 |
this is funny !  | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 1029 Registered: 12-2002 |
DES, Ill prepare a solo just for you when you come out. Ive been wanting to play for all you fchat guys...a private recital or something | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 845 Registered: 1-2002 |
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| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 985 Registered: 10-2001 |
wooohoo ! Party time ! | ||
| Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
Member Username: Tbakowsky Post Number: 402 Registered: 9-2002 |
I like Boobs. | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 404 Registered: 4-2003 |
Well get on it David!!!!! DrS | ||
| David McGee (Damcgee)
New member Username: Damcgee Post Number: 14 Registered: 2-2003 |
I'm just barely in the double digits w/ my post count. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 4246 Registered: 8-2002 |
Matt - DESchat had some real content...! Jordan, those are awesome pictures... Any chance to hear you play when i come out...? | ||
| "The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 4801 Registered: 8-2002 |
DrS, This is not actually the first. We have had several post free threads in the past. One called "bored" and "looking for a previous owner" and deschat.com come to mind. If you wanna up your post count, get in a arguement with Jonas or JRV M M | ||
| David A. Spear (Detailman)
Junior Member Username: Detailman Post Number: 92 Registered: 5-2002 |
I guess ill jump on the train here as well.... | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 302 Registered: 12-2001 |
Omar: I wasn't trying to rag on you, just cruising for another post (kinda like now ) | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 583 Registered: 9-2002 |
Erich, nice catch...I too fall victim to the pic | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 1024 Registered: 12-2002 |
Interesting idea for a thread wont last long at all though...but here is my contribution You see, Paul Wranitzky (Pavel Vranitzky), 1756-1808, was a contemporary of Mozart as well as one of his closest friends --having shared the same Masonic Lodge in Vienna. His music is similar to that of later Haydn, conforming to the late-classical Viennese style. Here are some pictures of my beloved bass...If I sold it, I could buy a 308 GT4, but I love it too much to sell it. Below is my lovely violin; it was made in the year 1809 (the year Haydn died and a year after Wranitzky died) in England and the case it is in was made in 1880 in England as well...    | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 301 Registered: 12-2001 |
Don't you mean "oh well"? | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 582 Registered: 9-2002 |
Boy this is just asking for the shames archieves...on well. Here's my contribution for Erich and his little 'a':  | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 386 Registered: 4-2003 |
Good job, now go hang out in the Hot Chicks thread for some good r&r and I will even put up a couple of new girl shots for you!!! DrS | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 300 Registered: 12-2001 |
WOO-HOO, my 300th post! | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 299 Registered: 12-2001 |
I only need one more!!!!!!! | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 298 Registered: 12-2001 |
Sorry, I had to take a break (fingers cramping up). | ||
| Peter (Bubba)
Member Username: Bubba Post Number: 341 Registered: 5-2002 |
Aye......... | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 384 Registered: 4-2003 |
Keep it up my Free Post Brother!!!!!! You can do it!!!! DrS | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 297 Registered: 12-2001 |
But only 4 more posts before 300 now | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 296 Registered: 12-2001 |
I forgot to put an "a" in the word was, please note that correction. | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 653 Registered: 3-2002 |
jesus | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 295 Registered: 12-2001 |
Man, I ws really off! | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 294 Registered: 12-2001 |
Wait, that is not 300 .... | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 293 Registered: 12-2001 |
Wait, that's not 300.... | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1501 Registered: 2-2001 |
. | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 292 Registered: 12-2001 |
Wait, that's not 300... | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 291 Registered: 12-2001 |
That one is kinda cheap DrS, not like here where I'm announcing my 300th post! | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 383 Registered: 4-2003 |
Free post!!!!!! I'm racking'em up boys!!! DrS | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 381 Registered: 4-2003 |
:b DrS | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 3040 Registered: 6-2001 |
It doenst piss me off DrS. that WAS my free post. | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 290 Registered: 12-2001 |
Thanks DES. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 4206 Registered: 8-2002 |
LOL, Erich...! | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 289 Registered: 12-2001 |
not! | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 288 Registered: 12-2001 |
does | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 287 Registered: 12-2001 |
it | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 286 Registered: 12-2001 |
no | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 3035 Registered: 6-2001 |
Delete or move this thread rob. it makes a mockery of the post count system. | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 376 Registered: 4-2003 |
As Mjgermane pointed out, some people here have been racking up AMAZING post counts over a short time. So, in order to get as many posts as possible I am announcing the official FREE POST thread!!!! Get your useless, lame, and completely free post here and catch up with the big boys!!!! DrS |