| Author | Message | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 881 Registered: 11-2002 |
Lawyers...you gotta love 'em. Cheers | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Intermediate Member Username: Whart Post Number: 1210 Registered: 12-2001 |
Yep, i make it up as i go. But, you know, you can leverage the truth in a way which is not demonstrably false, but the other guy will know you are reaching. Thus, make sure every factual position is squarely in the center of the truth, not shaded in a way that is favorable to you. You create good will, even with fuckheads, if they know they can trust you even when disagreeing about outcomes or ultimate positions. You then build on that, and, if you have a valid position, it has an almost irrefutable foundation; on the other hand, if you stretch, you can easily be shot down, and have no credibility. Ask the other lawyers about how to build cred. with a difficult judge... | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 1794 Registered: 1-2002 |
Tony, get him one of these. It'll calm him right down...  | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 533 Registered: 4-2003 |
I would not deal with them. In my exp, these people are extremely self destructing. If he is not able to state a position with out passion, then you can have no idea what he is thinking. He could be a lunatic. Do you really want a partner that cant communicate rationally with customers? And do you really want a partner that may yell at you daily?? | ||
| Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton Post Number: 583 Registered: 11-2002 |
Bruce, that's what it is starting to look like! Love ya too Des. | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 554 Registered: 2-2002 |
Maybe that is what he is doing all those late nights driving around. Des you need them to start chasing you. | ||
| Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton Post Number: 582 Registered: 11-2002 |
Well that's true Pat but I am an old married man with too much time on my hands! Des is a young single man, he should be out chasing tail. | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1951 Registered: 4-2002 |
CHARLES..ANSWER TO THAT IS NO LIFE,,  ..BUT I LOVE YA DES.. PAT..THE OLD WAY WAS IN THE TRUNK WITH A BIRD IN THE MOUTH..GET WITH IT ITS THE NEW MILLENIUM.. BRUCE | ||
| Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton Post Number: 581 Registered: 11-2002 |
I like Bruce's idea. Just make sure to get a signed contract first. | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 552 Registered: 2-2002 |
Charles, You came about 7 months after me and you already have me beat! Pat | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Intermediate Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 1374 Registered: 7-2002 |
...or you could do it Bruce's way..... what was that movie where Randy Quaid was an attorney? In one scene he is shaking down some guy and says "Now I didn't go to one of those big, fancy law schools, I went to the kind where ya break their legs with a baseball bat, or get a flame thrower..." something to that effect. | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 551 Registered: 2-2002 |
Bruce, I thought the NJ way was a trunk, late at night and a shovel? Best, Pat | ||
| Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton Post Number: 580 Registered: 11-2002 |
I just noticed Des registered only 3 months before me and has posted 3913 more times than me. Des, you have too much time on your hands my friend! | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1950 Registered: 4-2002 |
DO IT THE NJ WAY.. GET THE BRICKS, ROPE, AND A BOAT.. | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 549 Registered: 2-2002 |
DES you always seem to crack me up. Pat | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Intermediate Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 1373 Registered: 7-2002 |
whart is right. depends on guys motives. don't prove you are smarter he'll figure that out when the deal is finalized. don't react back with emotions or it just escalates and nobody is in control. like throwing gasoline on a fire! I usually say something like "I have obviously upset you" or "you are obviously very passionate about this point" "am I misunderstaing you" in a calm voice. Lets them know I get their point, but I am not gonna have a pissing contest especially in a crowded room. Then again, some guys are just A holes and you either fight through it or walk away. | ||
| Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton Post Number: 579 Registered: 11-2002 |
Try what Wart says. If that fails, shoot em! | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 4492 Registered: 8-2002 |
Tony, you can't take Whart's advice... i mean, look at what he's saying... "non-truthstretching"...? That's not even a word...! & if it were, truth-stretching should at least be hyphenated, don't you think...? Whart is obviously some joker, trying to start trouble around here... It's unbelievable, the riff raff that Rob let's in here... Tsk... | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Intermediate Member Username: Whart Post Number: 1206 Registered: 12-2001 |
That can be difficult. I know people who use that as a negotiating style, it keeps you off center. Just be firm, don't emotionalize, and wait a beat for each response. Typically, people that are reacting on emotion say stupid things. Take advantage of that, but quietly. Don't prove you are smarter. And, in a courteous way, don't take any ••••. If its just a ruse, he'll get it. If he really is emotional, it can be used to your advantage. Also sometimes putting stuff in writing actually aggravates the situation because the inflection and nuance can be missed. But, still, document your progress in a non-truthstreching way, confirming your positions as you go in a way even he can't disagree with. Let me know if this works. | ||
| Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton Post Number: 576 Registered: 11-2002 |
Shoot em! | ||
| Tony Roberts (Pantera)
New member Username: Pantera Post Number: 15 Registered: 6-2003 |
I am in the middle of trying to put together a business deal and unfortunately the guy I am dealing with is a hothead.How do you deal with this type of individual? |