| Author | Message | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 460 Registered: 5-2002 |
Taek Once again I appreciate all your help. I also feel all your comments are 100% on the money. Last year I was looking at a 50k 911, I was dressed in blue jeans and a t-shirt pulled up in my 94 toyo p'up which I parked right in front of the showroom and I also had a bank statement proving I could afford the car. I talked to the salesman (who ended up being the sales manager) asked him for a test drive and without hesitation or him trying to qualify me he replied let me get a plate. I never had to explain my financial situation or pull out that bank statement. As a result I would do business with these people in a heartbeat and I am actually headed there in the A.M. tomorrow to look at a car. Once again Taek I appreciate all your insight. Rob | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1090 Registered: 11-2002 |
No, Yes, that's too bad...you shouldn't have offered. Cheers | ||
| Kendall Kim (Kenny)
Junior Member Username: Kenny Post Number: 139 Registered: 9-2001 |
Does this happen to be the same Bentley dealer your dad buys his Continentals from?? Do I lose a non-refundable deposit if I don't make it there by the time the Palo Alto Concourse starts?? If you own a 996TT, being a broke, unemployed student, I need the $64k much more than you do.... :wiggle: | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1088 Registered: 11-2002 |
As a matter of fact, I'm considering a second visit for a car that might suit my needs. Make it by the time the FChatters here are going to the Palo Alto concours and you can come along... Just find your own means of transportation. Cheers | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1087 Registered: 11-2002 |
Bentley of Silicon Valley. Email me for arrangements in sending me the 64k. Also, when can I expect to see you in the Bay Area? If you're not ready to offer, don't. Cheers | ||
| Kendall Kim (Kenny)
Junior Member Username: Kenny Post Number: 138 Registered: 9-2001 |
The $64,000 question still remains, What Ferrari dealer was it?? | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1085 Registered: 11-2002 |
Kenny, There are also places that rent out scooters by the hour too. A place in Marbella, last time I was there was charging around 1000 pesetas per hour. They make a good living too. Cheers | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1084 Registered: 11-2002 |
Kenny, I actually take offense to the bsflag comment. I'm trying to provide information that can save a fellow FChatter a lot of grief and maybe even his deposit. You want to put down a deposit? Go ahead. See the Florida dealers thread and other threads where people are pissed off they haven't gotten their deposits back. The man is obviously a buyer, otherwise he wouldn't be going through this, so that throws your argument about only buyers should be taken seriously out the window. Fly your ass down here and I'll take you to the dealership myself. After you get your drive leave with a smile. What kind of Mickey Mouse bs is this? Nice advice you're giving here. You keep at it and next time you go to get your next 5 series you'll repeat your own mistake and have a crappy experience. Also stop putting words in my mouth. I never said I had no intention of purchasing. The C4 Cabrio Porsche had I also drove with no credit checks and crap. The Turbo I currently have...same thing. You want me to take you to those dealerships too? Get over yourself Kenny. Some salespeople are good at what they call in the industry "probing and qualifying". The good ones do it in a respectful manner. On a lighter note... Craig, You can definitely tie up an allocation and that process is indeed a separate issue. I was referring to the fact the dealership in question had told Robert the car was physically available. If they do give you an allocation you should have a document provided that ensures this is the case. That prevents things like the car being sold from under you. Cheers | ||
| Kendall Kim (Kenny)
Junior Member Username: Kenny Post Number: 135 Registered: 9-2001 |
Taek- It has nothing to do with whether you can afford it or not..It's whether or not you're serious about buying.. (please re-read my thread before you criticize) I'd like to know the name of this Ferrari dealer that let's you test drive 550's and 360's in a Tshirt and sweats, with no verification that you're serious about buying.. So I can fly down there for a weekend myself, test drive them, soak in the sites for a day or two and fly back... You know Taek, there are places that rents out Ferrari's by the hour and make good money doing it.. Unless you have a friend at a dealer doing you a favor, or regard a spin around the parking lot as a test drive, I smell: :bsflag: | ||
| Craig A (Milo)
Member Username: Milo Post Number: 283 Registered: 4-2003 |
Can you tie up an allocation? US Honda dealers are supposedly only getting 4-5 S2000 allocations each per year. Our boy Robert comes in and says I want you to order me a car but I'm not going to give you anything down for it, you'll just have to take my word that I'm going to buy it. So they order the car. As it is sitting in the railyard waiting for a truck some guy comes in and says, I want a red S2000 and here's $32K for it. What's the dealer going to do? The S2000 is currently a hard mover. So he's looking at a cash sale in hand or a "possible" sale with Robert. hmmm... I'm not saying it is good business but I expect it goes on quite a bit. The dealer is probably trying to get another red one right now.  | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1083 Registered: 11-2002 |
Craig, You can't tie up a car that's not there. If you don't want to tie up a car that may sell while in transit, then don't offer it for sale until it's physically in the showroom. Otherwise, sign all the paperwork with a VIN number, give an exact date of when you know the car will be in for sure. At that point it's not asking for a deposit, but consumating the deal. Financing options are settled and as soon as the car comes in (on or before the date promised) the car is readied for delivery. Happy customer, happy dealership. Car does not get there then the deal is not sent to the banks and there is no deal at all. If this is a cash transaction they can hold a check for you for the same amount of time. If your credit supports it, the check will guarantee. Just make sure that the paperwork clearly states your arrangement. We sold a gentleman a Toyota MR2 Spyder that way. Believe it or not, these cars are still hard to come by in that area. He was happy, and the dealership was happy. Cheers | ||
| Craig A (Milo)
Member Username: Milo Post Number: 281 Registered: 4-2003 |
It's that HUGE population that makes them so weary. They are in the market to move large quantities of cars and for every one they sell they probably get 10 wannabuys. The simply can't afford to tie up a car on a what if. If you can't provide concrete proof of your intention to buy (ie. money down) then the car isn't sold in their eyes and the next person that comes along with the cash in hand will get the car. I went truck shopping with a friend and while he was signing the papers another person came in and offered more for the vehicle in cash. The other salesman would have sold the truck right out from the my friend's salesman if the papers hadn't been signed already. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1082 Registered: 11-2002 |
Kenny, I disagree with you. As I've posted in previous threads I detest dealerships that don't treat you like a qualified buyer until you prove it to them. This is a friggin' Honda. There is a HUGE population of people who can afford it. I worked in a car dealership for fun a couple of months ago and I was appalled at some of the things that went on. Granted, I've heard from other salesmen with more experience that the dealership was not the norm. I've walked into a Ferrari dealership in t-shirt and sweats and got to test drive a 550 Maranello and was offered a ride in a 360. No credit checks, no bank statements, no exhorbitant deposits or any of that crap. I almost bought a Murcielago from them but ended up purchasing private party ONLY because of the time I would have to wait for one. If a Honda dealer asked me for a deposit I simply wouldn't purchase. I would tell them I'll wait for the bigger engine to come out in a couple of years. Or is it a year? There are better ways of purchasing a car. Remember guys, it's supposed to be an ENJOYABLE experience. Cheers | ||
| Craig A (Milo)
Member Username: Milo Post Number: 269 Registered: 4-2003 |
My experience with my S2000. I ordered from a local dealer on June 6th, 2000. I wanted Silver/Red which he didn't have and so it had to be ordered. One note, this is the first year they are being produced. I agreed on a down payment of $1000 secured with my credit card which wouldn't be charged unless I backed out of the deal. The dealer gave me the end of September 2000 for a delivery time. He called me August 31, 2000.. my car was at the dealership. They were cleaning it up and I could come pick it up that afternoon. In fact they wanted me to come pick it up that afternoon because they wanted the sale on their August books. Something is not straight up with what is going on with your deal. I tend to agree with the others in that they may think you are not serious if you didn't want to commit any money. | ||
| Kendall Kim (Kenny)
Junior Member Username: Kenny Post Number: 132 Registered: 9-2001 |
After reading more and more on his threads, he didn't have a deposit on the car either... No deposit = no firm agreement, means dealer doesn't take you seriously.. On the flip side, the dealer could be thinking, had they delivered the car in time he could've just walked away from the deal, and losing out on a sale from another potential customer who's waving their checkbook with a firm deposit already on the car.. Nobody gives a sh8t what you have in your pocket proving you can afford an S2000.. I can walk in Bergdorf Goodman waving a bank statement from my pocket saying I have $100k in my checking acct. Doesn't mean it proves I'm going to buy a $2500 suit... | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4797 Registered: 5-2001 |
All I can ask is, why the hell would you spend vaca days for the delivery of your vehicle? I would tell them to have the car ready at 8:00pm for you to pick up after work. Screw them and let them work overtime to make the sale. Apparently they are screwing with you as well. I had that a lot. People asking about delivery dates and all we could do is guess. There is a ship, there is two ports, there is customs and a truck. Too many variables. BUT I always supplied the VIN the second we had the car and had it brought to the port. No switching. | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 458 Registered: 5-2002 |
Maybe this is a sign from above telling me I should go with my life long dream of buying a 308. | ||
| Fayyaz Vellani (Fvellani)
Junior Member Username: Fvellani Post Number: 88 Registered: 8-2002 |
Sorry to hear about your problem, Mr. McNair, hopefully you will be able to resolve the situation and still get your car... I get the weirdest feeling of deja vu reading this thread, was there a similar one a while ago? | ||
| Kendall Kim (Kenny)
Junior Member Username: Kenny Post Number: 124 Registered: 9-2001 |
Robert- either go down yourself or call them again and say you're ready to buy today if they have one in stock... A couple years ago, my parents were shopping for an A6 Avant.. I knew there was a $4k factory incentive that dealers were not willing to pass along to the customer witholding that info quoting some BS price over the phone... I told my dad to go to one of those dealers anyway, so we head down after having calculated a fair offer which was like several thousands less than they quoted with a bank check waving in front of them... My dad got the car below invoice... Like I said, there's a difference between "talk" and waving a checkbook in front of them... | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 453 Registered: 5-2002 |
Kenny I went to every single Honda dealer in R.I. went to or got quotes at every dealer in ma.Ct. N.H.. Got b.s. stories from all such as 'oh you want red you have to pay more' 'these cars go for 3to4k over sticker in the summer months' 'this is the last year they are making them' they only make 4500 a year' etc. etc. Because I did my homework I knew there was not an ounce of truth in any of these statements. As far as money talks I am a cash buyer and I had a statement in my pocket at every dealer I went to proving that I could well afford the car. | ||
| Kendall Kim (Kenny)
Junior Member Username: Kenny Post Number: 122 Registered: 9-2001 |
BTW- You have to tell them you're ready to come down "now" with your check book in hand ready to seal the rubber stamp... The fact you did not commit to anything equally can be taken as you not being a "serious" buyer on the sales side at the Honda dealer being a dreamer wasting their time... Money talks.. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1069 Registered: 11-2002 |
Herb Chambers is a thief. Go to another Honda dealer. I have so many Herb Chambers horror stories from my college days it gives me headaches when I hear the name. Cheers | ||
| Kendall Kim (Kenny)
Junior Member Username: Kenny Post Number: 121 Registered: 9-2001 |
Robert, like you said, these cars are not in heavy demand anymore.. I notice on your profile you are located in VT... I'm sure if you called around to some of the big dealers in the northeast like Herb chambers Honda in Boston, or Manhattan Honda in NY you'll find someone who has the car in stock "now" ready to be prepped and delivered next week... The S2000 is not like a 911 where the option list can run 3 pages long..The S2000 is only offered in a half a dozen color combos or so, with maybe a couple of options... I'm sure you can locate the car you want promptly.. | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 452 Registered: 5-2002 |
I got an e-mail on 5/30 saying my car has been shipped. And then they told me it is in n.y. on the 11th so that is not even two weeks from Japan to N.Y. Kenny luckily for me I did have the foresight to not sign anything and not leave a 2000 deposit. But yes I definately have learned more and fortunately haven't lost any$$$$ | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1068 Registered: 11-2002 |
Let me rephrase that... A large volume Honda dealer will sell hundreds in a month. (Not in a year) Good might not have been the best choice of words there... Cheers | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1067 Registered: 11-2002 |
Kenny, A good Honda dealer will sell hundreds in a month. The amount of volume they do is not joke. Cheers | ||
| Kendall Kim (Kenny)
Junior Member Username: Kenny Post Number: 120 Registered: 9-2001 |
Robert- Now you're a more educated consumer, and you'll be wiser the next time around... It's not just buying a car where people lie or deceive.. It's like that in life in general.. I worked in the financial industry 5+ years before heading back to school, and I've done all sorts of jobs, temp jobs, consulting assignments, regular employee etc.. and you should see all sorts of BS that goes on... Getting passed over for a promotion because someone else has a dad that "knows people" in the industry, or interviewing for jobs that doesn't exist, yet HR strings you along lying to you that the position is still available, or they had already hired someone else who is having VISA work permit problems and they're "exploring" their options... Or just never hearing anything back at all, and this is after several rounds of interviewing.. People don't want to be upfront, because they "know" it's sketchy and moral wisdom has taught them otherwise from growing up as a kid... And you know what?? the higher margin the business, the more slippery it gets... Selling Hondas is a lucrative business.. You'd think it's the exact opposite where Ferrari dealers make the big bucks selling $100k+ cars and charging $5k + for service... But when you do the math, basically what it boils down to is this.. One Honda dealer can sell hundreds of cars a year.. That's the entire allotment FNA gets from Ferrari to sell in all of North America.. Look at all the people on this board who were mistreated in either purchasing or servicing a Ferrari in a high end industry where each customer can make a difference... In the "Honda" sector, they don't give a sh8t... These people are there to make money, not to see you with a big grin on your face as you drive off the dealer lot... | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1065 Registered: 11-2002 |
An overseas container ship making it from Japan to the US in one week?! Holy crap! I don't think so. 3 weeks is much more accurate and maybe even optimistic at times. Just to piss them off, tell them you want to purchase the car at invoice price or you are going to retract your deposit. If they really pissed you off or give you any problems about the deposit threaten to call Honda and tell them about your experiences with them. Write Honda a formal complaint and attach a copy of it to the owner and tell him/her/them that these sorts of business practices are not ethical. Tell him that based on his reactions to your valid complaints you will go ahead and contact Honda about it. The GM will most likely review the letter and cough up the deposit. Do remember to add in the letter that a copy of your correspondance (once the issue reaches resolution) is also going to the local news channel (they normally do bits on shady businesses) or periodical if the situation is not treated fairly. Cheers | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 451 Registered: 5-2002 |
Chris The reason I had to order the car was because I wanted red. They said they were going to switch what they had coming in with another dealer who was getting a red. The trip from Japan to here by there accounts was a week if that.The time frame you gave me dosen't jive with what they have been telling me. Like I said previously just about every Honda dealer I have talked to in the last year has feed me one line of bull or the other. I had looked at other cars at hi-end dealers and salesmen there knew there product and seemed to have some morals. | ||
| Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
Junior Member Username: Cmhorner17 Post Number: 174 Registered: 4-2002 |
My $.02.... I used for to work for an Acura dealer. Did you order the car to your specs or did they whip out a list of what they have coming in and you chose one? Reason I ask is that at Acura, they knew 2 months in advance of every car that was coming in. I can't believe that the Honda side of things is much different - especially with a S2000. The boat ride over from Japan alone is like 3 weeks of the time. Either they lied and can't get the car, didn't have the car on order, or made a "mistake" and it was already spoken for and they are scrambling to find another one. Like Taek said, it's not like there is no tracking of inventory like that. Especially a S2000. There's only like three of them to track at any one time. I have to raise the BS flag on the dealer for this one. | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 450 Registered: 5-2002 |
Taek Thanks for the insight. Like I said I left a REFUNDABLE deposit and didn't sign anything so I can back out of the deal,altho I'm sure it will be a PITA getting my deposit back. They wanted me to leave a 2k non refundable deposit of which I said no way. Like I said before if they were honest with me they probably would of gotten my money but now they are getting nothing from me. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1063 Registered: 11-2002 |
Robert, That's horseshite. No way that a car is sitting in the railroad waiting for transport. For every day that a container is not picked up and is sitting in the railroad or port they would have to pay a fee. I know this because I deal with a lot of this in my business. They usually get a grace period, but usually no longer than a week. Also, cars are picked up almost right away because of the value of the merchandise. It's no secret that there are cars in that container. Car dealerships get trucks full of cars every couple of days and some busy ones more than once a day. The whole truck might not be for them, but several cars will come. The fact that the dealership is lying would be enough for me to walk away. That being because of how patient you have been throughout the whole thing. They're not going to lose $250/day because they can't have a flatbed get it to the dealership, let alone a big trailer that is already going to haul six other cars. Cheers | ||
| djmonk (Davem)
Member Username: Davem Post Number: 295 Registered: 1-2002 |
This sounds familiar. When the Integra GS came out in 91 i think with new body style i bought one. It was a hot car an they located one from another dealer. After waiting an waiting i happen to drive by the dealer late at nite coming back from trip an stop to look around. Well there in front is my new car i had put the vin# on my deposit. Again waiting for them to call me to come pick her up the next day, i call them. Its not here will call you, blah blah. I then tell them i saw it there dumbass an they still deny it! Finally after insulting me they admit they sold it to someone that day who paid more. Few months later they do the same thing to a friend. | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 449 Registered: 5-2002 |
Taek, What the dealer has been saying is that they are waiting for transport. The car has been sitting at the depot since Mon. waiting to be picked up by a truck. They keep telling me they have the date of the day I call listed as to when the truck will arrive. Who controls when the truck is supposed to come the dealer or Honda? Of course this is all assuming that the car is really even there. I have given up on this whole deal but I would still like to know how it is supposed to work. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1062 Registered: 11-2002 |
Robert, Having had insight into how car dealerships work... They have inventory lists. When a car is in transit, they know exactly where the vehicle is leaving from and know within three days to 1 week for overseas cars of when the car is going to get there. A good dealer will give you the worst case scenario and surprise you when the car gets there. There is NO WAY this is Honda's fault. This dealership's behavior is inexcusable. Doesn't matter if you're buying the cheapest bare bones Civic or an S2000. There are certain things you are entitled to. There is also no way that there is so little control of incoming inventory when the product they are selling is expensive. It's not like they can just forget about it if a car doesn't get there. Oh, we're missing an Accord. Maybe it'll turn up in a month or so... Cheers | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 448 Registered: 5-2002 |
This really sucks I was so excited about getting this car and I have worked and waited and saved for so long. But at this point I don't want to give them my business. If these dealers spent there time and energy trying to do things legitamely instead of trying to scam people they would probably make 10x more money. | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 447 Registered: 5-2002 |
And if you guys don't mind I'm on a rant now you are right Kenny I was absolutely appalled at the B.S. all the diffrent Honda dealers threw at me. I dealt with over 15 dealers and 90% of them just flat out lied to me. I actually was at the point this summer of giving up totally because of the dealers (even tho I loved the s2k). It is like pulling teeth to get someone to deal straight with you, and at a large majority of the dealers I dealt with they still have the same cars sitting on there lots from two months ago. | ||
| Kendall Kim (Kenny)
Junior Member Username: Kenny Post Number: 119 Registered: 9-2001 |
Robert, I think that's BS...When I got a 525i I got the same runaround from the dealer saying it'll be here, it'll be here.. The 525i was NEVER some high demand car.. When it was finally delivered, the dumbass salesman slips and admits he never had the car in the first place, and had to find some other dealership willing to swap with him at a premium and bitches about losing money on the deal... That same joint has since lost it's license to be an authorized dealership.. | ||
| chris cummings (Entelechy)
Member Username: Entelechy Post Number: 273 Registered: 5-2001 |
Robert, Just reading about this, I got upset for you! If I had planned a vaca, and had been waiting four days and counting, and it's only 45 min.away in a railyard, I would demand to go see it firsthand. In this case, I would walk away if I were you - I would never want to give them my business after that BS. Sure, they'd probably sell it right away to someone else, or likely already did as Taek pointed out. I've walked away from things like this many times even though it ended up costing me more in the end, just because I don't want to give people who operate like this my business and have the perhaps foolish hope that if enough people did this, they would go out of business or step up their customer svs! Best of luck, whatever you choose... | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 446 Registered: 5-2002 |
Taek I did leave a few other things out (I figured I made the post too long anyways) I don't believe the dealer is trying to do a switch as the S2k is not much of a high demand car anymore. But anything is possible. The dealer also did tell me that the dates are estimates and can change. However once the car was at the railyard on Mon. which is about 45 min. from the dealer he and I figured it would be no problem for it to arrive the same week. Upon calling American Honda they told the salesman they could verify that the car had arrived but not when it would be delivered. The thing that PEEVES me the most is that no one can give me an exact date. I don't have time to sit around for days on end to wait for this car. At this point tomorrow is my last vaca day and I'll be damned if I am going to sit here all day and wait to hear from them. Thank God I had the foresight to leave a refundable deposit. | ||
| Kendall Kim (Kenny)
Junior Member Username: Kenny Post Number: 118 Registered: 9-2001 |
Your dealer sucks and they're giving you the runaround... They probably sold you a car they are not allocated for, and are scrambling to swap it with another dealership but finding supply scarce, or they sold and delivered your car to someone else who was willing to pay sticker or a higher price than you did... If you "ordered" a car to your specs, it's highly doubtful they can have it delivered in less than a month, they're probably some car out there that is already equipped in the way you wanted already slated to come to port... BTW- I hate Honda dealers, went to see an S2000 at 2 different dealerships when it came out. The first one wouldn't even offer to unlock the doors for me, and the other one would not offer to show it to me without some sort of deposit on it.. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1061 Registered: 11-2002 |
Robert, I don't think that's Honda's fault. I think it's the dealer. I don't know if these are possible scenarios, but they do happen with cars that are in demand. Sometimes a dealer sells your car for more money than they did you and pretty much keep you waiting until their next allocation comes. This is rubbish behavior no matter what and I would personally retract my purchase and head to another dealer. If you ever do get in a situation where you have to wait again, I would ask the dealer to supply a VIN number for the car you are receiving as soon as they say the car is physically slotted for you. Or they could have simply lied to you and were hoping to get a car at that point and never did. Good luck! By the way, what dealer was this? I'm under the impression I would never buy a car from these people with this sort of behavior. Cheers | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 445 Registered: 5-2002 |
I want your opinion yes YOU sitting there! As I posted awhile back on 5/1 I ordered a new S2000. I was told it should be delivered to me on the first week of June the second at the latest. The first confirmed date I got was 6/4 so I planned to take some vaca time to coordinate with its arrival. On 6/3 they changed the date to 6/16 then later on the date was changed to the 11th. So I spoke to the dealer about having a definate date and he said it should be in this week. So as of this Mon the car was at the railyard which is 45 min. from the dealer arrival date was the 11th so I scheduled my vaca time. Day 1 of vaca I was told it would arrive it didn't. Day 2 the same thing. Day 3 the same The salesman tells me he called Honda and all they would tell him is where it was and that is was supposed to be delivered that day. So last night I call and speak to the salesmanager and he tells me it should arrive that night or tomorrow morning (this a.m.) which it didn't and I haven't heard from them at all. So I have spent four vaca. days waiting for my car and now they are basically wasted. I have done everything I could to plan for this but have had no help from Honda at all. Now I'm in the mindset of why should I buy a car from a company that dosen't even want to make the purchase an enjoyable experience. Obviously they are not going to be supportive if a warranty issue comes up. Am I being too harsh? |