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rich (Dino2400)
Member Username: Dino2400
Post Number: 306 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 5:40 pm: | |
Sean and Dave - I don't have an agenda! If my statements were incorrect, they were incorrect. Let's blame the press. Is that the liberal or conservative press? I can't tell them apart anyway, ha! |
Sean F (Agracer)
Junior Member Username: Agracer
Post Number: 243 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 2:20 pm: | |
"Sorry, Rich, but you are altering history to suit your agenda." Liberals will do that. One only has to look at the recent list of "banned words" from history books in California. Not to mention that many people still think the civil war was about Slavery and not States Rights, and Lincoln's main objective with the Emancipation proclamation was NOT to free the slaves. |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 2080 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 2:09 pm: | |
Sorry, Rich, but you are altering history to suit your agenda. The market peaked in March of 2000. At that point, Bush was merely one of many Republican candidates, and it looked more likely that the Dems would keep the White House with Algore. So, your argument that foreign investors were leery of Bush is BS. Foreign investors (and many smart ones in the US) were leery that the whole dot-bomb thing was a shell game about to collapse...so they put their money where their mouths were, and made their suspicions a reality. |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 316 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 12:53 pm: | |
This "nut" WOLFE has alot to say. His sci-fi 1950's mentality forever posts are filled throughout the O/T section. The world is to be exploited by the USA. I am all for that but; I do not think they are going to follow along like a bunch of monkeys. I am conservative. I voted for both Reagan and Bush. I have "never" voted for a Dem. Reagan IMHO is one of the best presidents we ever had. President Reagan ended the Cold War, strenghtened our military, built or economy, and took care of inflation. This guy is beyond Battleship Diplomacy. It is more than speak softly and carry a big stick. His mentality: If you are from E. St.Louis and your daddy shined shoes all his live, you should also shine shoes. All of this for the sake of his ( WHITE TOAST's ) economic AND social prosperity !!!!! Everyone is hear in the USA to help the WASP's prosper. Kinda like Planet of the Apes !!!!! His world is collapsing and everyone in the USA who is not White Toast is at fault. Is this a lunatic or what ? This is 2003 (NOT) 1348 Europe. Anyone "reading" and figuring out his crazy posts ?
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rich (Dino2400)
Member Username: Dino2400
Post Number: 291 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 12:51 pm: | |
Someone said: "If Clinton's policies were so great, why did the bubble burst before he left office?" I think you will find that the stock market and general economy collapse had a lot to do with foreign investors pulling their money out of the U.S. market. Why did they do so? Because the Clinton era was concluding and they didn't have faith in what was coming next. They didn't like Bush and didn't have faith in the policies he was going to enact. Why they felt that way and whether they were justified in that belief is unimportant. And yes, general economic trends influenced their pull out. But I think we often underestimate the psychological effect. Our current economy shows what happens when you have a leader who does not appeal to the rest of the world. It's a global economy guys and being acceptable to the rest of the world is quite important. |
Robin Overcash (Robin)
Junior Member Username: Robin
Post Number: 121 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 12:04 pm: | |
quote:If Clinton's policies were so great, why did the bubble burst before he left office? Shouldn't his long term plan have just kept getting better? ... Now what have we got? A big mess to be cleaned up and 3000+ people murdered by terrorists one morning in September.
Whooooa little horsey. So what you're saying is, terrorism and global economic problems are all Clinton's fault???? Who's playing the blame game now? That's just as absurd as blaming Jews and blacks for all of our problems. It always confuses me when people say the economic boom of the 90's had nothing to do with Clinton's policies, but the 'horrible' economy that was 'handed off' to GW is a direct result of his actions (either that or the growth was due to the Republican controlled Congress, but the downturn was due to the the Democrat in the White House). So which is it? Did he or did he not affect the economy? It seems to me like Alan Greenspan and the dot commers had more to do with the boom/downturn than anything the president did. I don't even know what to say about your assertion (a commonly held one among right wing extremists) that 9/11 was Clinton's fault. I suppose you also agree with Robertson and blame it on gays and the ACLU. When the Clinton administration launched missiles into terrorist camps, everyone says he was drawing attention away from the Lewinksy thing. Now those same people are saying he didn't do enough. Which is it? Terrorism has been around much longer than Clinton. Yet it's his fault we have terrorism now? I suppose the people coughreaganrumsfeldcough who actually gave the weapons to the same people who are now using them against us had nothing to do with it? I assume you'd say that at the time, it was the right thing to do to keep the commies at bay. No argument from me on that one, but now *all* of the blame lies with Clinton???? You're nuts. It also boggles my mind that we're still heehawing over the Lewinksy thing. So the prez got some action. He's a pig, move on. "He dishonored the white house! he stained it with his disregard for decency!" Ok fine, but then I guess it's ok for a president to annihilate a sovereign government on false precepts, claiming that they're supporting terrorists.. meanwhile the crown prin..er 'leaders' of the country that really is supplying funds and bodies for terrorism (including 15 of the 16 9/11 guys) are having tea with GW at his home? Clinton had a sign on his desk "It's the economy, stupid." He had a focus.. Debt was down, surpluses were up, things were pretty good. What's our current president's focus? Saddam Hussein? why? One would think it's terrorism, but if that were the case, we'd be policing Saudi Arabia right now, not Iraq. It boggles my mind that you see the world so black/white us/them GOP/Dem ... it's not that cut and dry. All the bad things that happen in the world aren't the fault of the Democrats and liberals, and not all the good things are the result of the GOP and conservatives. Maybe one day you'll get it... As for this Wolfe guy, I think Queen Gertrude had it right.. "The lady doth protest too much, methinks" Jeff = -R |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 312 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 7:21 am: | |
WOLFE Here is the more educated thread you said you were not getting from detractors. I am sure you will find your vision of the 1950's world amusing and informative.
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Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 306 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 1:29 am: | |
Cmon Wolfe it is time to read below. You are a POS. The Golden Corral is open tomorrow. God Bless |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 305 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 1:27 am: | |
Wolfe is constantly bringing up the 1950's as the time America was at its best. This WAS the age when we owned the world. The US was driving cars that were getting 10 mpg and people (knew their place) ~ (Hey if you worked on the line your kids stayed and worked on the line). If you were black you were supposed to shine shoes like your daddy dad. You worked for GM, you just figured how many years you had to complete to get that pension. NOBODY messed with the US. NOBODY. America ruled the world and the rest of the Western world and Japan were rebuilding from WW II. The USA had alot of products to export. Why of course The Phillipines did not yet make TV's and export steel to the USA. They were still a complete basket case that could export cheap toys at best. Europe and Japan were living amongst the rubble from the war. The USA had many industries left over from WW II that were beginning to become antiquated. Japan for one; all of the sudden could get "more" production from its workers building cars than GM could. Unfortunately for us in the USA we had to pay $ to keep the commies and Joe Stalin from grabbing the free world. While we paid for worldwide defense the Germans and Japanese put their $into efficient industries that were geared also for export to the largest market in the world. We all remember seeing photos in the early 80's of steel mills in PA falling down after demolition. See Wolfe wants to somehow go back to the 1950's and close the USA to the "entire" world. Don't laugh! Of course he does not have the balls to say this. But he knows in his Wal Mart head that the USA must stand completly ALONE. LOL I also wish like him that the USA had (all) the cards in its hands like the 1950's. We cannot drop nuc bombs on the entire world and destroy our economic competitors. Believe me that I am "far" more patriotic about the USA than he is. He is nothing more than a bigot who has a narrow mind of the world economy. Never mind the fact that there is no way to stop the world economies from evolving. You and I know this but he does not have a clue ? Wolfe is a loser who has begun to ((accept)) the continual slide in life. He did mention how he did much better in the early 1980's before the Jews and libs began to destroy his 1950's world. All of this losing mentality has forced him to try and find SYMPATHY on this site. What to do but try and find someone to blame. This is where he began to let everyone know about his racist views. We probably all harbor racist views to some degree. Perhaps Taek was brought up to marry in an Asian home ? I was brought up to marry exclusively a Jewish wife. I NOW bring up my kids to marry exclusively other Jewish adults later in life. Except I do not wear it on my sleeve. I have other friends that are not Jewish. My best friend is Lutheran. See it is a taboo to wear it on your sleeve. We all have taboo's that we keep amongst ourselfs. Perhaps you have a sexual fantasy that you keep to yourself ? Wolfe does not know about a taboo. He has decided to air out all his dirty laundry for everyone on the site to see. He is on that downward continual slide and is even worried about becoming the next nightime partime manager of the local Wal Mart. Now he is going to show how all minorities ruined his 1950's America to find SYMPATHY on this site for becoming a continual loser.
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michaelthuber (Mikehuber)
Junior Member Username: Mikehuber
Post Number: 57 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 9:10 pm: | |
While I don't normally comment on inflamatory threads, I can't resist this one. I find it very interesting that the two big selling books right now are sort of similar. One, Harry Potter, is about a young Wizard, and the other, Living History, is written by a Middle-Age Witch. |
Sean F (Agracer)
Junior Member Username: Agracer
Post Number: 242 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 4:26 pm: | |
The balance of the Hillary bashing here is just that: no facts, all either lies or B/S. Just like her book Art. If Clinton's policies were so great, why did the bubble burst before he left office? Shouldn't his long term plan have just kept getting better? He lied, he cheated, he stole, and in doing said let the rest of corporate America think it was OK for them to do it as well. Now what have we got? A big mess to be cleaned up and 3000+ people murdered by terrorists one morning in September. |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 301 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 3:52 pm: | |
About half way down Pat.
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Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo
Post Number: 634 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 3:49 pm: | |
What is the post about his daughter? |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 299 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 3:41 pm: | |
Dave ~ Wolfe's time is almost up. Check the post on his daughter. He will be bouncing oreo's off his knee real soon. WOLFE IS A PIG. |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 298 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 3:39 pm: | |
Dave: WOW that is amazing about your father. I am still a (21Bravo) Combat Engineer in the National Guard / Army Reserve. The Blue Max ~ That is special. Your father is a real HERO. |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 2070 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 3:14 pm: | |
"Jeffie", thanks so much for proving my points 100%. And no, I am not Jewish, nor were any of my relatives imprisoned or murdered by the Nazis. However, my dad won the Congressional Medal of Honor liberating Buchenwald & several other camps as the Nazis beat a cowardly retreat, trying to kill everyone in sight. Again, thanks so much for proving my post 100%. Being inbred sure is hell for you, hmm?
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Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 297 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 3:10 pm: | |
How about an UZI or a Louiseville Slugger? Seriously Dave and Bruce this is not funny. This guy is a real piece of garbage. He needs to go back to the sewer where he belongs and take his family with him.
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Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr
Post Number: 2167 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 1:24 pm: | |
THANKS BROTHER SHALOM... |
David R. (Rodsky)
Junior Member Username: Rodsky
Post Number: 81 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 1:20 pm: | |
I'm in - I'll Paypal you BRUCE! |
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr
Post Number: 2166 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 1:19 pm: | |
WHO WANTS TO CHIP IN WITH ME AND BUY AN OVEN FOR MR WOLFE?? I HEAR MAYTAGS COME EXTRA LARGE |
David R. (Rodsky)
Junior Member Username: Rodsky
Post Number: 80 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 1:07 pm: | |
This does nothing to redeem him - Jeffrey Wolfe is an A-Hole. The comments about Jews are offensive. I hope that you get what you deserve. You should leave this site and go and play on sites where people are hateful, racist, narrow minded and want to live in the past or whatever it is you like to do. |
michaelthuber (Mikehuber)
Junior Member Username: Mikehuber
Post Number: 54 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 12:30 pm: | |
Jeffery, Thank you very much. As it turns out I did have the black and white reversed. No telling how much it would have cost me had I left it that way. Thanks for the extra effort. My panel just pulls out, didn't know your stereo would interfere, causing more work. On my very short list of virtues, patience isn't listed. As far as I'm concerned you came through. I apologize for assuming that you wouldn't. |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 296 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 11:28 am: | |
Thanks for helping Mike. You are still a piece of . Seig Heil |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 250 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:51 am: | |
Gee Mike.. after that I am not sure if I should have wasted the time to help. It turns out that I ahd to remove the front tunnel cover and my entire stero head unit to get accerss to the front edge of the panel you asked about. This is only due to my stereo unit face is motor driven and a bit thicker. So it took a day longer... Here you go
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Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 294 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:22 am: | |
Where are you WOLFE ?? |
michaelthuber (Mikehuber)
Junior Member Username: Mikehuber
Post Number: 52 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:14 am: | |
Ralph, Don't bother waiting. I started another thread here where I asked him a specific question about a Mondial panel. I had previously e-mailed him the same question and when he didn't respond, I posted it in OT where I was sure he would read it. Instead of answering my question, he and JRV got into a personal battle on that thread. He promised to answer it two days ago, but I haven't heard it yet. I don't care what opinions he or anyone else express or expresses here. I actually do value the whole F-chat site for the getting info I want or need. IMO it's kind of like using the service manual or a wiring diagram for my car. What you need is in there somewhere, but often you have to wade through a bunch of meaningless stuff to find it. I do have to admit it is kinda of fun watching him get everyone so worked up over what has obviously become sport to him. BTW, my Grandmother's maiden name was Ruberg. Long story follows after that. |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 292 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:03 am: | |
WOLFE You little piece of . JRV is waiting for you.
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Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 291 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 10:01 am: | |
This piece of garbage is worried about Leroy grabbing his daughter with the tattoos, and working at Wal Mart. Cpt. America is going to be scanning underwear and socks made in China. |
Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Intermediate Member Username: Kennyh
Post Number: 1044 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 9:57 am: | |
Anyone else catch this: "... did much better in the 80's before the liberals and the Jews damaged the middle class in America." and this: ""weren't hanged at Nuremburg.".. whats the matter Dave... did Grandma not make it out of the Ovens..? Not to worry.. some nice swiss banker has her teeth and rings. " Is that a joke or what? |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 290 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 9:53 am: | |
Wolfe: JRV is waiting. and Leroy is sniffing. Do not delay. Can't keep JRV waiting all day. Now who is the PUSS ?
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DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 4829 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 9:52 am: | |
No beef, Wellington, he's obviously not worth it... |
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr
Post Number: 2158 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 9:49 am: | |
WOLFE YOU ARE A SICK BASTARD...I JUST LAYED BACK AND WATCHED YOUR IGNORANCE WHILE TALKING TO RALPH..ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE OVENS. GET A LIFE YOU ARE A SAD EXCUSE FOR A LIVING BEING( OR WHATEVER YOU ARE ) if you have a problem with me, I WILL BECOME YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE..NO THREATS JUST THE TRUTH..
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Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 289 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 9:38 am: | |
Go to hell. Take your drink and shove it up your ass.
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DJParks (Djparks)
Member Username: Djparks
Post Number: 346 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 9:37 am: | |
Come on guys! We just went through this crap with Tony Roberts aka Micheal Rossi aka countless others. Why don't you all take your ego pumping and bashing to the 'Sh*t on Your Neighbor' website and let the rest of this enjoy this website. Good grief, I thought 'I' had issues! Peace, DJ |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 249 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 9:36 am: | |
ROFL.. my point was made.. thanks ralph. I did not need to call one name and you guys lose it. IT is too easy... then again... Certain types could never stand a fair fight. I am not going to sway from the topic of this thread.. thats not fair to the poster. If you are ever in south Fla let me know... would love to buy you or JRV a drink and see how you do in person. |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 288 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 9:29 am: | |
Don't worry after Julio is tired of the fish between your daughters legs leroy will be waiting. Leroy loves wrotten white fish. ANd WAL MART IS hiring part time employees. |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 287 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 9:19 am: | |
YOU ARE A PIG. What's up your business is going down the drain. Are you worried that you are going to be working at Wal Mart soon ? Soon going out to the Golden Corral will be a big Saturday Nite meal with your 400 pound date. Is your daughter dating Julio Gonzalez ? Are you worried that Leroy Brown is next ? DISGUTING TRAILER TRASH PIG. GET THE OFF THIS SIGHT> |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 248 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 9:09 am: | |
"weren't hanged at Nuremburg.".. whats the matter Dave... did Grandma not make it out of the Ovens..? Not to worry.. some nice swiss banker has her teeth and rings.
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Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 247 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 9:05 am: | |
I find it amusing that only the Liberals fall back on insults and name calling. I have not used a single racial slur or called anyone, other than that Jerk JRV, a name. Yet I have been called a varity of names... LOL.. funny how certain types always fall back on such things when they can't support an argument. I ahve been very direct without using some very availible and common terms that MANY americans use daily. Seems the best that many can do here is call names and, lacking a better education, make nonsense posts. |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 2066 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 8:47 am: | |
Jeffie, you are what results when cousins marry. I have two regrets: (1) that your family tree has but one branch; (2) that more of "your kind" (to use YOUR language, you racist a$$clown) weren't hanged at Nuremburg.
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Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 244 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 12:12 am: | |
Art .. you are correct we are so much better off now. Would you like me to quote you figures on innercity crime in 1955 vs today? How about production of US steel or crops? Drug related deaths, Divorces and Unmarried births? Yep.. we are so much better with our kids listening to RAp and acting like Wiggers. And we should thank the liberals for all of the really neat social programs that encourage the Ghetto to grow instead of going away. MTV ran a show a few weeks back that actually showed a black rapper (O.D.B. of the Wu tang Clan) that had just recieved an award for gold record sales. He was on his way to the New York Welfare office to get Food stamps and Check. In his LIMO. The mayor of New York got into that one. When they asked O.D.B. why he did it he said " why not.. free money is thge best" MTV aired this moment during a show of their wildest TV moments. Yeppers.. much better off now. BTW.... Please show me the Factory you can get a 20 year carrer job at now in america. Most jobs will tell you that you will only be around 5-8 years. Walmart has 2/3rds of it's staff as only part time to save on costs. Oh yea.. much better. Knowing what you are you have reason to dislike the America of the 50's. But at least we had balance and rules. People knew their place. |
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6
Post Number: 613 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 5:43 pm: | |
Here ya go, http://www.cnn.com/2002/BUSINESS/asia/09/12/econ.greenspan/index.html |
arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member Username: Art355
Post Number: 1946 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 5:16 pm: | |
If Jeffrey liked the 50s, he and Trent Lott should have a lot to talk about: segregation, poll taxes, Brown v. Board of Education, House on Unamerican Activities. A great time in the USA: NOT. As to those comments about Clinton not having done anything about the economy: Read Greenspan's book where he, Greenspan, attributes the great economic growth of the 90s to Clinton's decision to take the long term approach to taxes and interest, and pay down the National debt. Why to people, without any factual basis open their mouths to prove their lack of knowledge? The balance of the Hillary bashing here is just that: no facts, all either lies or B/S. As to those who are complaining about the pardons: take a long hard look at those given by Reagan and Bush senior. Bush Senior pardoned people accused of providing weapons to those who used them to kill innocents. In my humble opinion that pardon sucked, but hey, why worry about the facts. Art |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 257 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 4:45 pm: | |
This Jeffery stirs up trouble whenever he posts. He blames his problems on everyone but himself. Have you picked up the constant "negative" attitude with each and every post ? The worlds is a bummer. Because of Jews, Blacks, and Hispanics. Everyone is screwed because of those people in his world.
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Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member Username: Tvrfreak
Post Number: 343 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 2:47 pm: | |
It's always convicted felons who are pardoned. I have never heard of an innocent person being granted a pardon. I don't think they'd need one... Perhaps you meant that you didn't agree with his choice of WHICH convicted felon to pardon?
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Sean F (Agracer)
Junior Member Username: Agracer
Post Number: 235 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 2:42 pm: | |
8-years of lying and cheating from the white house, 8-years of corporate greed which led to a collapse at year SEVEN, capped off by 8-hours or pardons for convicted felons. It's amazing that people, who on the surface seem intelligent, continue to see the Clintons for what they think they are, instead of what they really were. Art, i agree with you, Clinton did a great job for the economy Clinton did not do squat for the economy. Why isn't economics taught in school anymore? |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 2056 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 9:44 am: | |
I have to agree with Ernesto & Lloyd here. Jeffrey, you should be ashamed of yourself. |
John A (Jarends)
Member Username: Jarends
Post Number: 264 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 7:29 am: | |
I've got to post a pic of my favorite t-shirt. It says it all, bought it in Atlantic City during his first term. Will try to photo it this by Friday. Clinton embarrassed me and this country beyond words.I wonder if anything they said was true??? |
IamA (Ski_bum)
New member Username: Ski_bum
Post Number: 19 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 1:21 am: | |
My 2 pennies worth. The economy does not go up/down immediately upon a new presidents term. Bill inherited a good economy from George H., and George W. inherited an economy that was headed down under Bill. To say Bill was the greatest thing since sliced bread....ugh. If Bill had spent more time in college inhaling and *NOT* getting sex.... |
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6
Post Number: 612 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:57 am: | |
"8 years of the best economy the country ever had." Single-handedly, I'm sure. "8 years of no major wars." I was in two major offensives under Pres. Clinton on the same scale as Iraq minus some of the ground force. So much for peaceful. "In general 8 years that were very good for the average American." One good opinion deserves another, generally speaking. Just poking fun ;) Sunny |
Mark PDX (Markpdx)
New member Username: Markpdx
Post Number: 34 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:33 am: | |
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IamA (Ski_bum)
New member Username: Ski_bum
Post Number: 18 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:17 am: | |
Leno had a joke, paraphrasing here: Bill read Hillary's book five times, so he can make sure his facts matches hers. |
Lloyd (Lloyd)
Junior Member Username: Lloyd
Post Number: 105 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 11:29 pm: | |
Jeffrey, your posts make me think that you are a little more "old fashioned" than you admit. It appears that you are more enamored with an earlier time and in another place. Germany in the 1930's. |
Kds (Kds)
New member Username: Kds
Post Number: 31 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 9:57 pm: | |
I was wrong...."Treason" is now at #4. -------------- Top Ten Things Heard In Line To Buy Hillary Clinton's Book: 10. "At last we'll cut through the lies and get to the embellished, politically motivated truth" 9. "Do we get a discount if we've had sex with Bubba?" 8. "Hey, the Whitewater chapter is all shredded" 7. "Why ain't your husband king no more?" 6. "Hillary Clinton? Crap, I thought it was the new Harry Potter book" 5. "That Barnes and Noble cashier looks a lot like Al Gore" 4. "I hear the section about Bill is a pop-up book" 3. "The last time I was at one of these, Rosalyn Carter showed up drunk" 2. "Twenty-eight bucks for a book? That Lewinskys" 1. "I feel weird doing this with your wife right there, Mr. Clinton"
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Kds (Kds)
New member Username: Kds
Post Number: 30 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 9:35 pm: | |
I'm glad to see that Ann Coulter's latest book "Treason" has outsold Hitlery's book at Amazon.com. Treason is number 6 and Living History is 9 and dropping.
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Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 1549 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 7:27 pm: | |
8 years that allowed terrorism to build up around the world. 8 years that allowed terrorists to attack US property/soil and kill US soldiers without significant retaliation. 8 years that allowed corporate corruption to go unchecked. 8 years that allowed the economy and market to grow unchecked, causing the eventual collapse. 8 years of having sex with interns and cheating on your wife. 8 years of lying under oath. Impeachment. Scandals. Health care fiasco. Too many to list. Great legacy. Ernesto |
Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member Username: Tvrfreak
Post Number: 326 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 5:57 pm: | |
Well, then, time has passed you by, I guess. There's a lot of omissions in your nostalgic recollections but I can't be bothered to enumerate. Let's get back to the original topic of this thread, the Hillary-ous jokes...
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Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 201 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 5:33 pm: | |
Faisal.. I willing admit that I am very Old fashioned> I beleve that the last great age for America was in the 50's. Family was strong. Liberals, gays and most minorities were closeted. Democracy and our country came first. Free trade ment you buy from us or else. Our industry was second to none and no american company would buy labor or steel from some 3rd world country at the expense of american workers. Gee.. was it bad for the blacks and others.. Yes.. but we were at the top of our game. YOu could start work at a plant and retire with a pension after having ahome and family. Your son could work where you did and make a career of it. Screw the rest of the world... We slept well and were safe. The class system gave you something to shoot for if you were middle class. People knew where they belonged. These are the values that I embrace and miss in my country. Civil Liberty that we have today were never envisioned by our founders. |
Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member Username: Tvrfreak
Post Number: 322 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 5:00 pm: | |
Nobody likes to see a miscarriage of justice. But why cite the glaring exceptions and abuses to buttress your point? You undermine your own credibility by doing so. Kind of like saying we should abolish air travel because some planes crashed. On the whole, welfare, social security, civil rights, and various other programs and tenets of our free and democratic society are good things. No? |
DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 4805 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 4:55 pm: | |
Funny, no doubt... Art, i agree with you, Clinton did a great job for the economy, but it's speculated that was a murderer, too... You just can't trust politicians, no matter who they are... |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 200 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 4:52 pm: | |
Faisal... I think that civil liberties are being abused every day.... but not by the goverment.. but by AA, Welfare, NAACP, ACLU, NAFTA,ADC,and countless others. A mexican can cross my border ( yes MY.. I am an American they are not) and give birth to a child concieved in Mexico. They now get a check every month from my wallet. A black person can smoke crack and resist arrest and win a huge settlement from the police. Another black man can smash an innocent White man in the head with a cinder block and claim it was caused by "black rage". You are damn straight I am against civil liberties.. if they only are for the low lifes that abuse my country and race. |
Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member Username: Tvrfreak
Post Number: 319 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 4:24 pm: | |
Are you against civil liberties, Jeffrey? |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 197 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 4:23 pm: | |
And a lawyer at that... says volumes. Big one for civil liberties are you Art? |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 196 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 4:21 pm: | |
ROFL.. spoken like a true Liberal from Calif. Bad leadership.. a weak military. More service men killed by lack of leadership and a contempt for the military. 911 was caused by how weak and badly America responded to events under Billy. Not to mention Immoral behavior in the oval office. Whitewater... and a new scandle every week. A strange death in the park.. the list goes on... And BTW Art... I did much better in the 80's before the liberals and the Jews damaged the middle class in America. Gore even said that Bill was the reason he could not get elected. Gee what a great leader.. |
arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member Username: Art355
Post Number: 1943 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 4:06 pm: | |
8 years of the best economy the country ever had. 8 years of little social unrest. 8 years of no major wars. In general 8 years that were very good for the average American. Art |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 191 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 3:38 pm: | |
ROFL... too f**king funny. Can't wait to see what kind of legacy they end up with. |
Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 1547 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 2:31 pm: | |
LOL.... funny, but true! Ernesto |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 2053 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 2:27 pm: | |
Hillary's got this huge book, it's a memoir of her life and times at the White House. In the book she says when Bill told her he was having an affair, she said I could hardly breath, I was gulping for air.' No, I'm sorry, that's what Monica said." - David Letterman "Hillary Clinton's book hits the stores this Monday. Oh boy, it took her a long time to write it. But in her defense, every time she tried to use the desk, Bill was always using it for a date." - Jay Leno "Hillary Clinton's 506-page memoirs comes out next week. So much of her personality shines through, that in the end, you'll want to sleep with an intern." - Craig Kilborn "In Hillary Clinton's new book 'Living History,' Hillary details what it was like meeting Bill Clinton, falling in love with him, getting married, and living a passionate, wonderful life as husband and wife. Then on page two, the trouble starts." - Jay Leno " "Hillary Clinton has finished her memoirs for publication next year, while Bill has barely finished the first chapter. Well, in all fairness, Fiction is a lot harder to write." - Jay Leno "Hillary Clinton, our junior senator from New York, announced that she has no intentions of ever, ever running for office of the President of the United States. Her husband, Bill Clinton, is bitterly disappointed. He is crushed. There go his dreams of becoming a two-impeachment family." - David Letterman "Last night, Senator Hillary Clinton hosted her first party in her new home in Washington. People said it was a lot like the parties she used to host at the White House. In fact, even the furniture was the same." - Jay Leno "Senator Hillary Clinton is attacking President Bush for breaking his campaign promise to cut carbon dioxide emissions, saying a promise made, a promise broken. And then out of habit, she demanded that Bush spend the night on the couch." - Late, Late Show host Craig Kilborn "Hillary Clinton is the junior senator from the great state of New York. When they swore her in, she used the Clinton family Bible. You know, the one with only seven commandments." - David Letterman "CNN found that Hillary Clinton is the most admired woman in America. Women admire her because she's strong and successful. Men admire her because she allows her husband to cheat and get away with it." - Jay Leno
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