| Author | Message | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 745 Registered: 3-2002 |
Tyler, Nice pic! I am surprised I missed that thread at the time! Anyway, I will be sure to let you know if I hear or see anything of interest(including 1492's and the like). Take care!  | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 839 Registered: 12-2001 |
Here are pics of the last ones I had. http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/256121/217336.html | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 838 Registered: 12-2001 |
John, I do save boxes. I don't save too many, but I have a few. They are nice for display. Ah, the elusive Gold Medal. I don't have a solid place to find any. They are getting more and more difficult to find. The last ones I found were in Hong Kong(probably the worlds best source for rare and collectible cigars). If you ever come across a good source please let me know, I will do the same for you. I'd like to get several boxes to set aside as I am currently out. | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 742 Registered: 3-2002 |
Do any of you save your empty cigar boxes? I like to save the nicer ones and set them up for display in my house. | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 741 Registered: 3-2002 |
Tyler Sounds like your idea could be a very rewarding and satisfying experience. I have been looking for Gold Medals for a good while now. Know of any solid place to find a few? Best of luck! | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 832 Registered: 12-2001 |
John, there are so many "perfect" cigars. I would be hard pressed to nail down one single cigar that is perfect. I want different characteristics in a cigar at different times. I also enjoy varying sizes although Torpedos are probably my all around favorite. Here are a few of the things that my favorites have in common. Spiciness, peppery finish, starts stong, finishes even stronger. My vote for best smoke period. Bolivar Gold Medal. Will come back with more details later. | ||
| John (Cohiba_man)
Junior Member Username: Cohiba_man Post Number: 188 Registered: 1-2003 |
Bump for opinions on my last reply. | ||
| John (Cohiba_man)
Junior Member Username: Cohiba_man Post Number: 182 Registered: 1-2003 |
Well this starts a whole new topic...what you would look for in the PERFECT cigat... I would look for a smooth, strong choclaty taste, hint of coffe, some cinnamon, no spiceyness or fruityness, VERY creamy, maybe even a little sweet...looks wise it would be a oily maduro, can't think of the name for the size, but like a RyJ churchill with perfect white ash and a nice, full draw... | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 828 Registered: 12-2001 |
John, I agree with everything you said. I have a little advantage in this area as several of the largest cigar manufacturers are close friends. I've intimately familiar with all the processes involved and I'm interested in doing this mostly for my own satisfaction(a little profit would be a nice bonus). It would be made in Costa Rica or Honduras. I have no interest in any U.S. tobacco. | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 597 Registered: 4-2003 |
John, Tyler.... Thanks!!!!! DrS | ||
| John (Cohiba_man)
Junior Member Username: Cohiba_man Post Number: 180 Registered: 1-2003 |
The reason Im thinking about all this is, if you watch the movie, you will realize HOW intricate the proccess really is, for exaple, how the leaves are stacked to dry out and where and how long has a HUGE affect of the taste of the cigar and thats just one MINUTE detail of teh whole process... I would reccomend (if it is to your tastes) to make the cigar very creamy, it is a very cuban characteristic and I love it in a cigar. | ||
| John (Cohiba_man)
Junior Member Username: Cohiba_man Post Number: 179 Registered: 1-2003 |
I think its a GREAT idea, BUT remember, even the companies that have been producing cigars for ages and know all the intricacies of doing so can make pretty crummy cigars, and I think it would be VERY tough to make a good cigar growing in U.S soil (assuming thats where you live) and once you have the chance to taste the cigar to determine if its any good, the capital will have been spent. In making a good cigar yuo have to look at soil, climate, leaf, growing conditions, picking time, drying time, rolling technique etc etc...but if you can get help from someone in the know, and are able to make a nice cigar that caters to YOUR tastes, WOW that would be incredible and possible profitable. | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 827 Registered: 12-2001 |
edit...damn John, that was fast. | ||
| Matthew Cooper (Dopplemax)
New member Username: Dopplemax Post Number: 25 Registered: 6-2003 |
Tyler, count me in on the research. Maybe even on the capital. | ||
| John (Cohiba_man)
Junior Member Username: Cohiba_man Post Number: 178 Registered: 1-2003 |
Okay, its called "The Fabulous Story of the Cuban Cigar" you can get it on amazon.com on DVD. Here is a blurb about it...I recomend it, great movie to watch while smoking a nice cuban. Welcome to Havana, Cuba...home of the legendary Cuban Cigar! This is a fascinating place where a stick of rolled tobacco leaf is turned into an intricate art form -- producing a desire of international passion. The secret of this extraordinary cigar is born from the rich Cuban soil, her special seed and the magnificent leaf itself. The island's famous tobacco growing regions, including the legendary Vegas of the Vuelta Abajo, are hailed as those which produce the legendary "Havana smoke" -- renowned for being the best the world has to offer and "The Puro"...meaning of pure Havana origin. You will discover the Cuban cigar's history from the experts including the Havana historian, the Cuban peasant with his hands of gold and the legends collector. Through human contrasts and into the discovery of a living tradition, this film follows the footsteps of the "Havana myth" that they each personify in their own way. For the pleasure of the aficionado, the connoisseur and cigar lovers everywhere, this wonderful documentary will take you on a journey into the mystical world of the Cuban cigar and the magic that surrounds it. Enjoy! Documentary / 60 minutes (sufficient to smoking a Grand Corona!) | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 826 Registered: 12-2001 |
Matthew, it will be a few years. I'm not interested in entering the market quite yet. Still debating setting up my own factory versus using a friend to produce my cigars for me. LOTS of details to work out first. | ||
| John (Cohiba_man)
Junior Member Username: Cohiba_man Post Number: 177 Registered: 1-2003 |
See my recently edited post below for info on a great movie about cigars. I'll try to look up the name. I found it at my library. | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 825 Registered: 12-2001 |
John, sounds about right. Funny, but I've never felt like I "needed" a cigar. I've gone years without smoking them before. I have some friends who are cigarette smokers and are most certainly addicted. I can't relate to that, thank God. | ||
| Matthew Cooper (Dopplemax)
New member Username: Dopplemax Post Number: 24 Registered: 6-2003 |
Tyler, let me know when you have a test product ready. On the strong side, with food, scotch or red wine, maduro and aged would be great with me. For a drive and a smoke, easy draw and lighter taste is the call of the day. | ||
| John (Cohiba_man)
Junior Member Username: Cohiba_man Post Number: 176 Registered: 1-2003 |
"John, I'm obsessed!" Don't get addicted, I've heard (dont know if its true) that nicotine enters the body from cigar smoke through the mouth (absorbed by the tissue) and enters the blood stream like ciggerettes (or however you spell that) and can be addictive. PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong so I don't have to worry about it ;) BTW, for anyone else obsessed with cigars, there is a video, a documentary, the name of which I cna't remember, but on cuban cigars, its GREAT it shows all the techniques for growing, the art of rolling, the PROPER way to light and smoke one, the history of them, etc etc etc and GREAT images of thousands of perfect cohibas piled high on tables etc...I smoked a cohiba esplendido while drinking lagavulin (or however you spell THAT) 18 it was a nice evening... | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 824 Registered: 12-2001 |
Dr.S you have a private message. | ||
| Wade Nunez(FortuneMotors) (308nut)
Junior Member Username: 308nut Post Number: 248 Registered: 7-2002 |
Had a Ashton Belicoso No. 1 Strongest I have ever had and very good. If they are anything like that put me down for a few Wade | ||
| John (Cohiba_man)
Junior Member Username: Cohiba_man Post Number: 175 Registered: 1-2003 |
DrS tell me what you want and I can probably hook you up. [email protected] | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 823 Registered: 12-2001 |
Matthew, sorry, cigars will probably be 100% corojo. Will be geared towards people who enjoy very strong smokes. | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 596 Registered: 4-2003 |
Wish I could.... My brother does not like me too so when I am here......... BTW, would not mind if one of our non-US based members could hook a brother up on a box of Cubians..... DrS | ||
| Matthew Cooper (Dopplemax)
New member Username: Dopplemax Post Number: 23 Registered: 6-2003 |
Tyler, Connecticut Shade wrap please on your finished product. | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 822 Registered: 12-2001 |
John, I'm obsessed! I LOVE cigars. I enjoy all aspects of cigars, from the seed to the ash so to speak. They are one of the pleasures in life I am most passionate about. No, joke, I am considering producing my own cigar. Probably won't become a reality for a few years, but I'm slowly getting there. | ||
| Wade Nunez(FortuneMotors) (308nut)
Junior Member Username: 308nut Post Number: 245 Registered: 7-2002 |
Matt check your email, Wade | ||
| Matthew Cooper (Dopplemax)
New member Username: Dopplemax Post Number: 20 Registered: 6-2003 |
You will have three different appelations to try for the 4th. What will I have? | ||
| Wade Nunez(FortuneMotors) (308nut)
Junior Member Username: 308nut Post Number: 243 Registered: 7-2002 |
That is pretty damn cool, thank you. Guess i need to turn up the volume on getting that car done. Wade | ||
| Matthew Cooper (Dopplemax)
New member Username: Dopplemax Post Number: 18 Registered: 6-2003 |
Wade, I have some fantastic Bordeaux that is on it's way to you! | ||
| Wade Nunez(FortuneMotors) (308nut)
Junior Member Username: 308nut Post Number: 241 Registered: 7-2002 |
Very nice looks good with cigar smoke and wine Wade | ||
| John (Cohiba_man)
Junior Member Username: Cohiba_man Post Number: 174 Registered: 1-2003 |
Oh hahah yeah it was a good hour plus smoke, taking my time... | ||
| Matthew Cooper (Dopplemax)
New member Username: Dopplemax Post Number: 17 Registered: 6-2003 |
Hello Wade, how is my car? | ||
| Wade Nunez(FortuneMotors) (308nut)
Junior Member Username: 308nut Post Number: 239 Registered: 7-2002 |
Cohiba (robusto) glass of Jacob's Creek Shiraz Wade 10pm and just finished | ||
| Matthew Cooper (Dopplemax)
New member Username: Dopplemax Post Number: 16 Registered: 6-2003 |
John, Just hoping you enjoyed it for more than 45 minutes! | ||
| John (Cohiba_man)
Junior Member Username: Cohiba_man Post Number: 173 Registered: 1-2003 |
Matt, don't know what you're saying...Tyson, I ended up just doing a swap with a friend of mine for some of his business books...Tyler, are you addicted or just obsessed (not very different really)? | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 820 Registered: 12-2001 |
Morning- Bahia Trinidad Churchill Afternoon- Camacho Diploma, La Flor Dominicana Ligero Torpedo Evening- Romeo y Julieta Cazadores Right now- Ramon Allones Specially Selected | ||
| Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Junior Member Username: Trhall Post Number: 92 Registered: 6-2003 |
Hey John who won your books? | ||
| Matthew Cooper (Dopplemax)
New member Username: Dopplemax Post Number: 14 Registered: 6-2003 |
I hope that from your first post to last you didn't finish it! | ||
| John (Cohiba_man)
Junior Member Username: Cohiba_man Post Number: 171 Registered: 1-2003 |
This Onyx was beautiful, dark oily brown, long, pure white ash, even burn...but it was only good, not excellent, probably wouldn't buy them regularily, but its a nice, strong, flavourful cigar. | ||
| Matthew Cooper (Dopplemax)
New member Username: Dopplemax Post Number: 13 Registered: 6-2003 |
CAO Amazon, the biggest, best pressed, moderately priced cigar out their. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Moderator Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 2056 Registered: 8-2002 |
Nothing... yet. Good idea, though! If anybody needs me, I'll be out on the porch with Cohiba XV. | ||
| John (Cohiba_man)
Junior Member Username: Cohiba_man Post Number: 170 Registered: 1-2003 |
After a nice meal on the back patio (overlooknig the water at sunset) of pasta etc I settled into a muskoka chair and had an Onyx reserve...very nice cigar...what did you all smoke tonight or recently? |