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Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Junior Member
Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 249
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 5:57 pm: | |
Racing is not everything. Street cars
are NOT race cars. One-offs are not
production racing cars. These are
just niche vehicles that add glamor
to the entire line that all but the
very top echelon of society can afford.
I am in NO WAY jealous of these one-off
cars. On the contrary I am very thrilled
from a technical/performance aspect that
these cars provide. I WANT niche cars
to be made. Diabolo GT, Carrera GT,
and Enzo etc.... They look great in
the magazines. For me they begin and
end in the magazines. I just as well
could place an order for a F-16C Block 60.
As far as Lamborghini they produce fine
street GT cars. The cars have some racing
components. Like Ferrari's current GT
street cars they are mixed with features
that make the car useable and friendly.
Lamborghini took some very talented Ferrari
engineers in the mid 1960's. Their results
of producing street GT cars with racing
components is absolutely spectacular. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 619
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 12:02 pm: | |
Hey ernesto, havent heard from your model owning ass in a while! |
Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member
Username: T88power
Post Number: 1543
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 10:42 pm: | |
"decided to utilize the expertise of their [Lamborghini's] formula one team for development"
I would not brag about this!
Ernesto |
Mike Greene (Rogueone)
New member
Username: Rogueone
Post Number: 2
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 5:41 pm: | |
Ok, let me dispel this myth for everyone on the board once and for all. The Dodge Viper engine was NEVER a truck engine and it did not originate with Lamborghini, but in the mind of Bob Lutz. First, at the time Lutz was designing the Viper, Dodge didn't even have a V10 truck engine, although the truck engine was simultaneously under development. Ultimately it was decided that an Iron block truck engine would be too heavy and thus it was decided that Team Viper would build an aluminum V-10, which was designed specifically for the Viper and has never been in a factory Dodge truck. Since Chrysler owned Lamborghini, Jim Royer (in charge of engine development) decided to utilize the expertise of their formula one team for development. Although Lamborghini assisted significantly in developing the aluminum block, ultimately much of it had to be redesigned due to reliability issues before the final product was created. Hope that is informative. |
Jeff Green (Carguy)
Member
Username: Carguy
Post Number: 329
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 3:59 pm: | |
I was involved with some development on the air intake system for the viper way back, working with Purolator. I believe that Chrysler consulted Lambo on the design of the intake plenum, and some other top end components. |
Steve M (Steve308gtsi)
Junior Member
Username: Steve308gtsi
Post Number: 103
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 11:57 pm: | |
Never heard about the connection. The Viper engine is basically a beefed up Dodge truck engine. The Lambo you are thinking about was the "Canto" which never panned out. I thought it looked pretty good though. I think I recall seeing it in Monterey. |
Aaron Williams (Aawil)
Junior Member
Username: Aawil
Post Number: 217
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 9:35 pm: | |
As I remember that engines life started out as a V8 and they grafted on 2 more cylinders. Or so they said in the original need for speed game. And yes I believe there were using a similar block in trucks too. |
PSk (Psk)
Member
Username: Psk
Post Number: 508
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 8:52 pm: | |
I don't think so because the v10 engine used in the Viper is actually a truck engine or has truck engine origins ... so I believe.
Pete |
Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member
Username: Deleteall
Post Number: 388
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 12:06 pm: | |
Heard a story long time ago and was wondering if its actually true, here goes: When Chrysler owned Lamborghini they wanted a baby brother for the Diablo to be powered by a v10. They developed a V10, but the project never panned out, Lambo was sold and the v10 they had designed found its way into the Viper. True? |