| Author | Message | ||
| Michael Wogronic (Michael_fvm)
Junior Member Username: Michael_fvm Post Number: 75 Registered: 4-2002 |
James, e-Gear may become available on the 2004 Murci. We are thrilled with the press the Gallardo has been getting. Thanks for noticing. | ||
| Marvin Balagot (Mdb69)
Junior Member Username: Mdb69 Post Number: 107 Registered: 4-2002 |
I've heard they were testing an F1 type shifter for the Murci, but havent heard anything about production. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2304 Registered: 10-2002 |
Do you think there will be? Even though I'm used to reg. shifters I've come to like the F1 box in my Maser. It would also free up footwell space. The Lambo E shift according to various mags, is the best they've tested. Another wild thing is launch control which you can have with F1/E shift. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 898 Registered: 6-2002 |
No E shift on Murcielgo. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2303 Registered: 10-2002 |
Are there E shift Murcie's? This might be an answer for no dead pedal. BTW Road and Track and other mag's really seem to like the Gallardo. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 897 Registered: 6-2002 |
I drove a Murcielago, and didnt experience any of your problems. | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 641 Registered: 3-2002 |
When you drive a car for the first time it will take some getting used to. This applies to a car that is narrow minded to the latest mini van. Airplanes and cars are both like this. A drive around the block is going to feel unnatural for awhile. | ||
| eli (ali) Latif (Ninja_eli)
Junior Member Username: Ninja_eli Post Number: 55 Registered: 5-2002 |
Drove a murcielago and the clutch is a disappointment. Its too light, and because I didn't want to ruin the clutch, I used idle revs to get her going. If the steering wheel is anything other than straight ahead, it will stall. You have to use some revs, but only max 1.5K as said before, its soooo powerful, even 1.5K is seriously over kill. But, the clutch is a major problem for these cars, it feels crap, it acts crap, it snatches, it causes you to stall the car. Another worrying problem is that there is no place to rest your clutch foot, and you will often end up kicking the clutch when trying to place it UNDER the clutch for rest. Its really annoying, SEVERELY undermines an otherwise fantastic car. Its so bad it leaves you really disappointed. Its not bad enough not to want one, but bad enough not to want to pay the list price for a brand new one. I think the Diablo 6.0 might be better as the clutch is less assisted than the Murcielago. Felt very solid (I prefer the Diablo 6.0 interior though), and looks great (prefer the Diablo 6.0 from the front and rear though, side angle on Murci is nicer). I'm now not in a hurry to buy one, will do so when they lose �50K, probably within a year or so. For now, as soon as I can get insurance on a Diablo 6.0, I'll get a test drive, and assuming I still want one, I'll buy it. Underneath the skin, the two cars aren't massively different. The power that the murcielago has is amazing, puts my 355 to shame. ;) | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 893 Registered: 6-2002 |
The Nsx, you could not, nor the Lotus. The 328 you can. The Diablo just grabs and goes. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 843 Registered: 9-2002 |
Allan....just owned a 328, NSX, Lotus Espirt and Diablo. Would you idle your NSX off? Because I couldnt-but I did have the 6spd which you couldnt I dont think. Would you idle your lotus off? I am wondering. Would you idle your 328 off? Because I do. How is the clutch feel off a line compared to a 328? Does it basivly grab and go like a 328 from idle? or is its really easy to stall out? Thanks for your help! I dont want to look like an idiot when I get in one...and dont want to overrev her either.  | ||
| gary green (Minuke)
Junior Member Username: Minuke Post Number: 188 Registered: 7-2003 |
I'm not trying to come off as arrogant, I think if you have to ask about how much it cost to service a Lambo you probably can't afford one. ( I know I can't) | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 892 Registered: 6-2002 |
You basicly idle it off the line, no gas necessary. $4500.00 for a windshield? Maybe, never had one break, but have you ever priced a Ferrari windshield? Very expensive. 1000.00 shocks, only for the cars with hydro front jacking. Some people have complained of these going bad, not in my experience though. At 30,000 miles i would just adjust the valves. A 6.0 a dissapointment compared to a 360? LOL | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1873 Registered: 11-2002 |
Omar, I would always suggest feeding in a bit of gas. What Ralph mentioned (1k-1.5k) is plenty to get her going. Cheers | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 828 Registered: 9-2002 |
How are the clutches in feel? Are they like Ferrari ones where u basicly work the clutch pedal to lauch and give it almost no gas (unless on a hill) or are they more like NSX clutches where they stall out in a second and you have to rev it up to 1300 rpms as u release to clutch to precent stall out. | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 556 Registered: 4-2002 |
Jeff, i had the pleasure of driving a 6.0 01 few months ago when i was in Florida and honestly was very dissapointed. she was just too big, uncomfortable and not practical for me. After 15 minutes of driving i could not wait to get out. on the other hand it is a gorgeous car. | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 634 Registered: 3-2002 |
Correction ~ Ideal clutch launch was supposed to read between 1K and 1.5K | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 633 Registered: 3-2002 |
There is no major service at 30K. The clutch expense depends alot on how the owner launches the car in 1st gear. You can get reasonable clutch life by leaving the line between 1K and 5K. The engine as you know has no belts. | ||
| Jeff B. (Azferrari)
New member Username: Azferrari Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2003 |
Allan, I heard that even though the Diablo has a timing chain instead of a belt, there still is a "major service" every 30K. Is this true? What all is involved? What about other scheduled maintenance? Parts availability? What about those $4,500 windshields and $1000 shocks I hear about? Are these things true? Ferraris are expensive to maintain, but not THAT expensive! | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 891 Registered: 6-2002 |
Jeff, I know the car you drove. From what ive heard, it has had a rough life. When i saw it last, it had the rear bumper all banged up, and the front spoiler was all scratched. The guy who owns it, supposedly beats the crap out of it, dumping the clutch every chance he gets. Ive also heard, so far, its been trouble free for him. I can tell you from my own experience with Diablos, having owned 2 of them, that they are very strong cars. My experience has been trouble free, in approximately 6 years of ownership. Even if you had a trouble free Ferrari, it would of still cost you more to maintain than the Diablo due to the belt change not necessary in the Diablo. As for wanting the Whore to go away for quite awhile, thats certainly not the case. For me, every time i get out of the Diablo and into the 355 Spider, im dissapointed all over again. The Diablo just feels like 10X the car, the Ferrari feels weak and fragile. The Diablo can be used as everyday transport, i know several that do, but for me its too much a hassle from the onlookers. The a/c works good and the car is easy to drive. I am also more comfortable in the Lambo than the F-car. Also, if you think the car is fast now, change the exhaust and add air filters, and youll be very suprised. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1862 Registered: 11-2002 |
Oh, if you are thinking of purchasing it, don't ever settle for only one test drive. With any exotic (I'm sure you learned this with your F355) the heat of the moment blinds you of certain niggles you might not be willing to live with. Drive it until all the niggles feel comfortable and second nature. Don't ever make a decision thinking, "I can live with that" because "that" is what's going to have your car up for sale in two years. I test drove the Carrera 4 four three times in one dealer and seven times collectively before I finally bought it. Then when I got the Turbo, it only took one test drive to convince me because the car was generally so familiar. Cheers | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 1861 Registered: 11-2002 |
>>1. This car will be an endless "money pit"<< No more a money pit than any other V12 exotic with an MSRP higher than the average cost of a 2 bedroom home in the US. I've spoken to owners of 456s and 550s who have sunk a painful amount of money in their cars, just as there are people who have sunk a serious amount into Lamborghinis as well. What I've noticed to be the most cost effective ownership experience...drive it. >>2. This car is like a $1000/hr whore that will be wild and exiting, but then you want her to go away for quite a while.<< I like to think of it as a supermodel that can cook, not a $1000/hr whore (albeit not quite to the Porsche Turbo family level). The car does everything it was intended to do, and it does it well. It is comfortable getting groceries as it is getting mini palm trees in Home Depot ( ) or tearing down a twisty road (I'd like to say track but I've never tracked a Lamborghini  ). It will haul ass and scare the crap out of you and bottom line...its a car you won't outgrow (unless you go the hard core classics route, then theres limited selection in the Lamborghini front). I feel its a more refined tool while the Ferrari is more of a jack of all trades. I think the refinement aspect of it is more of a novelty. The car has such a reputation for being rough and hard edged that your driving experience is scarred before you even embark on it. Test drives and ownership are two very very different things. These interiors are very well put together and when cared for properly, it will show. Be careful of the seat bolsters. They tend to wear more because of the complicated ingress/egress. Even most owners don't get it quite right because they don't drive it enough! Once you get used to it, the experience is quite simply, albeit a little tricky in the rain. Only gripes so far...They don't always attract welcome attention...it is a blank canvas for vandalisers out there. And the pedals are a bit too close together for me. Again, I'm used to other cars so maybe I'll get used to them eventually. Then again, when I first got in my Porsche I though it was annoying that the tachometer was big, front and center. Now that I'm trying to drive my Corvette more, the tachometer on the left seems like a stupid idea. Maybe the pedal layout makes it easier to heel/toe? Cheers | ||
| Jeff B. (Azferrari)
New member Username: Azferrari Post Number: 10 Registered: 4-2003 |
As a Ferrari owner who started out with various other sports cars and "worked my way up" to exotics, I have always thought of someday owning a Lamborghini Diablo. Currently, I have an F355 and before that, a 328GTS and a Testarossa. I got the chance to drive a Diablo SV last weekend. The car is a beautiful work of art from the outside....stunning! The interior is not very ergonomic, but when you are entertaining the idea of owning one of these cars, you can live with a little "old world" ergonomics. To put it mildly, this car is fast....beastfully fast. That's what is was made for. It is a totally different feel than a Ferrari. In fact, when going home in my F355, I felt like I was in a Honda.....not so much that is was that slow, but it felt so much more "refined" than the Diablo. The feeling I got in the Diablo was the feeling I used to think I would have in a Ferrari......such as: 1. This car will be an endless "money pit", 2. This car is like a $1000/hr whore that will be wild and exiting, but then you want her to go away for quite a while. Anyway, I would like to know what other owners/drivers think of Diablos of various flavors.  |