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Rodney Haas (Icars)
Member
Username: Icars
Post Number: 443
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 7:15 pm: | |
Barn it all! |
dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1847
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 7:01 pm: | |
I've fallen in a barn, and I can't get up! |
Bill Steele (Glassman)
Member
Username: Glassman
Post Number: 400
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 6:53 pm: | |
I'm offended by Barns! |
Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Member
Username: Trhall
Post Number: 343
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 11:23 pm: | |
I am very offended and don't think I can go on. |
Dave White (Dwhite)
Junior Member
Username: Dwhite
Post Number: 61
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 5:27 am: | |
Erik(sorry for the first mis-spelling) I do agree with you it is just a car, but I do get a little bent when someone just let's something go to the crapper. With that said, life is all about choices and if it's your property do what you want with it, just not my personal preference to let things get destroyed. |
Dr. Erik Nielsen (Judge4re)
Junior Member
Username: Judge4re
Post Number: 185
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:30 pm: | |
Those that know the story of the "chicken coop" know that the cars that I went and looked at have "cheap" asking prices. True, those were much more desirable cars but... |
James Lee (Aventino)
Junior Member
Username: Aventino
Post Number: 89
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 4:50 pm: | |
Dave, I thought barn finds were where a car gets left and forgotten for years until someone happend to be passing and spys it through a crack in the garage door? It's the best part of Classic & Sports Car Magazine. Does anyone remember that Alfa T33 that was bricked up in Angola since the late 60's that looked like it had just raced yesterday. Unfortunately most people seem to want too much for them. There's a fair price and then there's dreaming.... |
Rodney Haas (Icars)
Member
Username: Icars
Post Number: 431
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 3:03 pm: | |
Personally I feel horribly guilty because by Maserati Indy is currently being kept @ a friends house. He takes it out every other weekend and drives it a few miles. I just picked it up today to get it ready for a car show next week. I have got to get my extra garage project completed this winter. Then I can drive the car to work a couple of days a week.
I drove my 365 for two months this summer as my daily driver, until my FIAT was converted into a portable refrigeration unit. The bottom line is that while most of my cars our not concours, they are very nice drivers.
It's just painful to see cars fall to pieces. In this particular case it is also painful to see somebody that thinks garbage is gold. |
Dr. Erik Nielsen (Judge4re)
Junior Member
Username: Judge4re
Post Number: 183
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 8:54 am: | |
Dave:
Its just a car and its not mine. What's to be offended by?
As for my 365, its a clean driver. I have no intention of restoring it, only maintaining it and fixing whatever breaks. I guess I've been around Tom Shaughnessy too much. |
Dave White (Dwhite)
Junior Member
Username: Dwhite
Post Number: 55
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 6:18 pm: | |
I think barn finds are good for parts. That Pantera looks like junk. IMO I find it somewhat offensive if a good car turns to junk, just as I would find someone destroying anything of beauty - furniture, art or any other beautiful object. Again just my opinion. Eric I find it hard to believe you are not offended after looking at you profile - your car is too beautiful for you to not care somewhat. |
Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member
Username: Ghostridr
Post Number: 103
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 5:04 pm: | |
If the seller got $13,000 for that Pantera, then I say yeah for them, because I wouldn't even give half that. Total rust-bucket by now. |
Dr Robert Harms (Rharms1)
New member
Username: Rharms1
Post Number: 1
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 4:30 am: | |
I physically saw the Pantera, 3500GT, Pantera and Alfa 2000 and "bid" on the Maserati. I did not see (bother to) the Mexico. It is my understanding (direct communication with the seller) that the Ferrari sold for 33,000 and the
Maserati was also sold (16,000).Unless I am mistaken (and I am a former owner), the Ferrari was a late 250 GTE with the single piece taillight but not a 330 as it was proffered. The Maserati (also former owner) was shoddy but unmolested consistent with the way they were when you could actually go to Grossmans and buy parts. The motor was locked up. The Pantera was called a 1971 but was actually a 1973 model L with the transition old interior and late bumpers.I do not know of its disposition but figures of 13,000 have been noted which is probably accurate. The seller is a curious mix of partial knowledge and innacurate bs (Ferrari year, Ph D from Cornell, "Ferrari was so blindingly fast" (right), drives beat 1990 Chevrolet Impala) [email protected]
Oh...the Alfa was trash but they were when new and its doubtful that any of the cars were economically viable unless they were home projects. |
jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Member
Username: Atheyg
Post Number: 379
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:33 am: | |
Whats offensive is her asking prices, she sounds like she is missing a coulple of screws herself
If shes so concerned about the cars and what happens to them give them to a museum so they can restore them if it were true, instead it sounds like a lame sales pitch on how valuable the cars were to her sentimentally |
Dr. Erik Nielsen (Judge4re)
Junior Member
Username: Judge4re
Post Number: 166
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 9:44 pm: | |
Guys,
The cars were belonged to her ex-husband. He's gone, and she's getting rid of them. They're just cars and at least they were put in a shed rather than left outside to rot.
Usually, I don't care how anyone lives their lives and spend their money, so long as it doesn't interfere with others. If you buy a 250 GTO and leave it outside for 10 years with the windows down, its not going to bother me any.
Funny how this crowd gets so upset on meaningless topics. |
Jeff B. (Miltonian)
Member
Username: Miltonian
Post Number: 523
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 7:01 pm: | |
I've always thought the Maserati Mexico was a neat car, since I saw one at an Auto Show in the Sixties. I wouldn't give $500 for the "barn find" example. I'll bet the replating alone would be several thousand dollars, and the frame is probably rusted into oblivion. If it had been properly stored, it might be worth restoring. As is, these all look like parts cars (my opinion). |
Rodney Haas (Icars)
Member
Username: Icars
Post Number: 405
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 5:24 pm: | |
Forgot to mention that I do find the fact that she parked these cars instead of simply selling them offensive. |
Rodney Haas (Icars)
Member
Username: Icars
Post Number: 404
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 5:21 pm: | |
In this case I don't believe she was any type of speculator. If I had to guess I would say it was either a money issue or mechanic issue. If anybody had stored this cars to appreciate, they would have done so correctly.
That being said she is asking for unreasonable dollars for dead cars. Sounds like she wants over 10K for the Mexico being the "best" of the lot. The simply fact is you can purchase pristine examples for mid 20s. It would be a toss up restoring this car if you paid nothing, much less 10K. |
G. Green (Mr_green)
Junior Member
Username: Mr_green
Post Number: 69
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 3:20 pm: | |
I never understand why people get so excited about these finds. In the case of the Pantera found it would take more money to restore that car than it would be to buy a pristine example. |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 2210
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 1:59 pm: | |
Not much about letting a car turn into a chickens toilet that can be revered.
but if speculators want to rave over rusted out piles of junk each to their own.
The Good news is that there are those with huge piles of cash to resurect them... |
Omar (Auraraptor)
Member
Username: Auraraptor
Post Number: 883
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 1:34 pm: | |
I don't like to see the condition they are in, but at least they are found and not lost to history right? |
dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1629
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 12:55 pm: | |
I find myself a little PO'd that speculators would go to the bother of accumulating all these neat, interesting and sometimes historically significant cars, then let them rot in a humid, dirty enviroment. I truly find these people to be despicable. I think these owners should be "hung out to dry" rather than revered!
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