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Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2996 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2003 - 8:02 am: | |
From what I've read Audi had a lot to do with the design and build of the QP body and chassis so it should be top notch. I'm on the list to buy one to replace my M5. But, I'm still a little leary as to whether it will hold up for the 75k to 100k miles I usually put on my daily driver before replacing it. My M5 now has aroud 70k miles and it has been trouble free and is still worth over half what I paid for it. I wonder if the QP will be able to match that ? |
Vincent (Vincent348)
Intermediate Member Username: Vincent348
Post Number: 1040 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:27 pm: | |
Hey, don't shoot the messenger! That what I was told. 600 cars for next year. the sticker on this car is really going to be under a 100k. I'm surprised, that is the one question i didn't ask. Vincent. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1755 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:42 pm: | |
i was told by my dealer that they are shooting for "just under 100" when optioned-out. but he didn't have specific numbers as of a month back or so. doody. |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360
Post Number: 1583 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:04 pm: | |
I think the 600 unit figure is for the initial run. Also, what is the actual MSRP on this car? One source said $80K another said $100K. Which is correct? |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis
Post Number: 2600 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 12:03 pm: | |
Already sold out? I very much doubt it. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1754 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:57 am: | |
600 are slated for NA are you sure about this? i find this very hard to believe. if you assume that NA will get 25% of production, that's only 2400 worldwide units per year. and my understanding is that NA is a serious target market for this car, so it might be more like 33% of produciton, or only 1800 cars worldwide per year. that seems awfully low. why would they be trying to keep production down on the masers as opposed to minting cash (assuming the demand is there)? this isn't a ferrari. this is a VERY busy marketplace (MB S, Audi A8, BMW 7, etc.). this isn't the exotic sports car market. doody. |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360
Post Number: 1580 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:40 am: | |
I can't wait to see one in person.
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Eric Brigham (Ebrigham)
Junior Member Username: Ebrigham
Post Number: 58 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 6:30 am: | |
Vincent, thanks for the additional details. I like the QP�s interior seam work a bit better than the piping in the coupe and spyder. Regardless of how many test miles Maserati has done on the QP, if I were in the market for one, I would skip the introduction year just to be safe! But I guess that�s a good strategy for the majority of first generation models. I can�t wait to see one in person. Willis, your post is on the mark. Of all the cars I have had (2 Hondas and a Benz), my Maser will provide the worst (mileage-adjusted) resale by a nice margin. Ask me if I care�
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Vincent (Vincent348)
Intermediate Member Username: Vincent348
Post Number: 1039 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 11:15 pm: | |
The interior was awesome. The seats have very nice leather, they are comfortable but are bolstered well. The steering wheel can be adjuste to any position you can think of. All of the controls are well placed and nicely accessible. The fit and finish, wood veneers, and switches all feel very solid. They suppsoedly have over a million test miles on the car. But I forgot to ask if that's on 100 or 1 car. It took them 3 and half years from concept to build. 600 are slated for NA, and I believe all of the ones alloted to FoSF are sold already. Vincent. |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 744 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 10:34 pm: | |
Willis: I have a Toyota. You are correct in what you say. Purchase a used Toyota with 30K miles from an old lady. Sell it after driving it for three years. You will basically have the car for free. Less taxes and insurance. This is a mechanics dream come true. Nothing to fix !! What about Maserati ? Anything to Fix ? Now check out the AARP publications under moving sale. |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360
Post Number: 1576 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 8:08 pm: | |
Ralph, If depreciation is THE primary concern, this car, or any high dollar car, shouldn't even be considered. Probably better off buying a 10 year old Toyota.  |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 740 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 5:54 pm: | |
I am sure it is a nice car and all. I don't want to ruin the party. What will it be worth four years down the road ? How much are you going to lose ?
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Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1746 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 2:33 pm: | |
the fridge is purportedly an option and it replaces the middle seat of the three-abreast in the back. it might only be an option on the long wheelbase model, not the regular model. but don't go trading stock on that data. i'd love to hear more about the interior.... doody. |
Eric Brigham (Ebrigham)
Junior Member Username: Ebrigham
Post Number: 57 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 2:21 pm: | |
Vincent, thanks for the pics. Did you get to sit in it? How was interior build quality? How durable does the leather look? A 'fridge? What's the dilio with that? |
Vincent (Vincent348)
Intermediate Member Username: Vincent348
Post Number: 1037 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 10:35 am: | |
Very nice car! Interior is awesome, very tricked out without the sense of buttons and crap everywhere. Though the refrigerated compartment between the seats is a bit much. the car looks agressive, nicely styled. Same size as a 750 but it clearly is not one. I like it.
Sorry about the quality, flash not working well.
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Vincent (Vincent348)
Intermediate Member Username: Vincent348
Post Number: 1035 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 1:23 am: | |
I should be going to the premiere of this car in San francisco tuesday. I'll report. Vincent. |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360
Post Number: 1555 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 11:20 pm: | |
Frankfurt unveiling pictures here from the Maserati Club International http://www.maseratinet.com/MCI/quattroporte03unveil.asp |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2936 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 1:46 pm: | |
My 70k miles M5 is due for replacement next year. I would love to own the new Quattroporte if it not's going to depreciate like a rock. Unfortunately from the massive depreciation of the new Coupe and Spyders, the Quattroporte will too be worth 1/2 its MSRP in less than 3 years. |
Eric Brigham (Ebrigham)
Junior Member Username: Ebrigham
Post Number: 52 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 1:42 pm: | |
Jim, I agree. I wouldn't mind some of that AWD either, but I digress. I don't plan on getting one these any time soon, but I will probably test drive one to see what happens when I stomp on the throttle.... |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis
Post Number: 2535 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 1:28 pm: | |
Now that Maserati has announced a tech alliance with Audi hopefully they will come up with a nice auto trans to use in this veh. which IMHO needs one instead of the F1 box with "auto" mode. |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360
Post Number: 1551 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 1:18 pm: | |
In the video, you could appreciate the curves of the car much better. Muscular and aggressive. The light silver one on the spinning platform looked especially good. |
Eric Brigham (Ebrigham)
Junior Member Username: Ebrigham
Post Number: 51 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 12:28 pm: | |
I must say that the more I learn about this car, the more I am warming up to it... Of course, I am not in the market for a gigantic sedan. At least not yet... |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360
Post Number: 1549 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 11:45 am: | |
Thanks for the headsup on this. The Frankfurt debut video was nice (took a while to get going). What a gorgeous car! www.maseratiquattroporte.com |
Eric Brigham (Ebrigham)
New member Username: Ebrigham
Post Number: 50 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 11:19 am: | |
Now that the Frankfurt Auto Show has begun, Maserati has updated its website with details. Some interesting stuff. If anyone is/was actually there, your comments are appreciated! http://www.maserati.it/jsp/home.jsp?geographicArea=1
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