| Author | Message | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 226 Registered: 5-2003 |
Allan your self pic is great but I wonder does your wife kisses you afterwards, by the way how is your prostate? By the way its looks like you are sucking yourself, at least you keep your mouth and tongue where it belongs my friend, either you arse is well stretch or you really have a little head with a turd for brain. Since you are entitled to my opinion and you couldn't swallow the slap in the face that I gave you in the previous post myabe you were holding it in your mouth and decided to stick your head up your A$$HOLE so you could spit it up there in the dark where you are so afraid to come out and face a slap in your idiotic face like a man. Come on Im not afraid of your shiit semenly smelling mouth and I'll give you a punch that will take all those bad habits off and also make some enlightment and make you by a Ferrari, Hombre a medio hombre mano a colon. Lamborghini's lambrusco porcheria, and per favore non il rompere i coglioni. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1484 Registered: 6-2002 |
My Countach was a 1987, fuel injected car which i converted to an electronic fuel injection and ignition system. Awesome trouble free car. I dont plan on trading my Diablo for a 6.0, as i like the Sv better, but i am going to add a Murcielago to the Diablo.Love the Diablo too much to get rid of it. Id like to get another Countach also. | ||
| A.Tonokaboni (Senna1994)
Junior Member Username: Senna1994 Post Number: 178 Registered: 9-2002 |
Allan, what year was your Countach? Are you planning on trading in your Diablo for a 6.0, a Murci, or a Gallardo? | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1483 Registered: 6-2002 |
Evo always gives the Pagani high marks. I guess you can say it has Countach style with ground breaking performance, although i do not think the Pagani will age as well as the Lambo. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1482 Registered: 6-2002 |
L. (Testaroja) , after that idiotic rambling statement, i have decided that ultimately, you have your:  By the way, i had a Testarossa, it was about as good a car, as your take on Ferrucio's lambrusco. | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 225 Registered: 5-2003 |
by the 70s I mean the formula cars of that era | ||
| A.Tonokaboni (Senna1994)
Junior Member Username: Senna1994 Post Number: 177 Registered: 9-2002 |
Allan, don't you think the Pagani is like a modern day Countach, just better built? The new EVO Magazine has a great article with the Pagani, Enzo, Koneigsegg, and Carrera GT. They all have their own personalities, but as usual with EVO, it seems the Pagani comes out on top. | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 224 Registered: 5-2003 |
Allan I never mentioned my taste, so how come you put words in my mouth, as far as we know you are not Nostradamus. By the way I don't race formula uno but and I have never care about Enzo Ferrari but only about some cars since there are some Ferrari cars that don't call my atention at all. If Lamborghini did care about us then they wouldn't charge as much money for their cars, maybe they would still be making tractors as those do help more in the world than making a exotic car that actually the only reason it exist is because of ex Ferrari talent that went into Lamborghini from the get go. Bob Wallace himself told me that the story about Ferrucio building Automobili Lamborghini because Ferrari didn't wellcome him personally to hear his complaints about his cars (Ferrucio's Ferraris) was totally made up as a publicity stunt. Also the Diablo wasn't all Lamborghini, you know well the american car company that owned them and helped them financially, also Al Burtoni was called to help in the engine improvements, and we all know that the Murcielago and Gallardo are as Audis as much as Lamborghinis, and by the way Ferrucio's Lambrusco is awful. But after all this I do like the Lamborghini Countach, Murcielago and I will be driving a Gallardo soon. By the way many people do stop me and talk about Formula Uno when they see me in my Ferrari and they tell me how my Testarossa reminds them of the 70s when they see the wheels in the front and how they come out in the back and because of the radiators side mounted. Again dear Allan you are still entitled to my opinion and period!!! | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1480 Registered: 6-2002 |
The Carrera Gt is an awesome car, but i think id spring for a Pagani C12S instead. | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 223 Registered: 5-2003 |
I think the Carrera GT was going to be a race car but it didn't so happen then Porsche decided to use what they had already for the project and developed the GT out of it, something not quite the same but more or less like the Ferrari 288 GTO situation. (Of course Ferrari needed to sell some examples based on their rally car to meet the requirements to race in group B, and even when gruope B was killed they went ahead and built the GTO so all the money invested wasn't wasted and the company wouldn't be "hurt"). Of course this isn't the case by far but I needed to mention what I knew of the GTO before someone jumped at me thinking that I'm comparing apples with oranges. Then again back to the Porsche, that was what I think the Porsche dealer from Winter Park told me about the GT. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1478 Registered: 6-2002 |
L. (Testaroja), the only thing Ferrari betters Lamborghini at it is F1. NOTHING ELSE. Since neither you, nor I, drive in F1, or own an F1 car, this has nothing to do with roadgoing automobiles. As has been stated here, Enzo only built roadcars to support racecars, he didnt give a crap about you or me. Lamborghini built cars for people like us. When i drive my Ferrari, now, or in the past 15 years of owning them, not one person has ever asked a question about F1, or said something to the effect of" Must be great to be driving a car built by F1 champs" Doesnt happen, no one cares. As ROADCARS, Lamborghinis better Ferraris in many ways. You may disagree on aesthetics, but performance cannot be denied. | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 222 Registered: 5-2003 |
Allan, I don't know about that but I do Know that Ferrari betters Lamborghini many but many more times where it counts. And you are entitled to my opinion. | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 221 Registered: 5-2003 |
Allan I don't know about that but I do Know that Ferrari betters the Lamborghini many but many more times where it counts. And you are entitled to my opinion. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2929 Registered: 10-2002 |
Allan To make the Murcie viable on the track they've given it a diet, 2 wheel drive, and a huge wing. Hopefully they'll continue to develop the GTR which I think they will. As you've pointed out some of this will show up on the Murcie GTR (street). IMHO that (Street GTR) will be an interesting car to compare to the cs. The Gallardo to the cs is not apples to apples. The Gallardo to the 360 is. The car that I think will compare to any street legal car existant is the Carrera GT. It's too bad P isn't going to race that one. It would be something to see the Carrera GT racing the Enzo/Maser and the Murcie GTR... | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1595 Registered: 1-2002 |
Matt: thanks man. Wish you'd chime in a little more often along with Jon. Drop an email sometime. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1474 Registered: 6-2002 |
Lamborghini does more than compare to Ferrari, in many areas it betters it substantially. | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 220 Registered: 5-2003 |
Well from what I see in the video the gallardo doesn't lean in the curves like the Maclaren F1, the F1 is a joke. The Stradale is my choice over the Gallardo, in around 2 weeks from now I will drive a Gallardo and I will post my experience. I like the Gallardo by its looks and it seems to be cheap to service, but the 360 is a Ferrari and no other car can compare Ferrari, theres no wine in this world that can give one the taste and sound and pleasure of saying to yourself that I own and drive a Ferrari. I like all cars including the Ford GT, but when you think Ford the only thing that comes to mind is a good pick up truck. Lamborghini is great but it will never outgrow Ferrari's heritage and mystique. Now of course when it comes to buying and driving then I can only speak or talk for myself, and speaking of talking the please do not follow the british guy's pronunciation the second video is right on but the accent is "ga LLAR do" in the second syllable not the 3rd. | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 566 Registered: 3-2001 |
Hubert and James....I always enjoy your comments... | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1470 Registered: 6-2002 |
I have seen the Murcielago's on track. | ||
| Gary Brauch (Gary_brauch)
New member Username: Gary_brauch Post Number: 43 Registered: 10-2003 |
Sorry about that, James, thought you were referring to the 360. Trying to go through too many posts...  Gary | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Intermediate Member Username: Psk Post Number: 1077 Registered: 11-2002 |
Hmmm, I have to say after seeing the Gallardo beside the 360 Ferrari ... that the Gallardo looks far more exciting, and I am a big Ferrari fan. Also the comments about the first gear ratio being to high for a track car sounds a little weird to me ... unless you guys have tighter hairpin corners than we do down in the southern part of the world. Most designated track cars have very high first gears so you can use then again after the start. My last club car used to able to pull close to 70 mph in first and it was fine on all the tracks I raced on, and it used to out start just about anything. Remember no point carrying the weight of that first gear around lap after lap, if it is too low to be used again ... then again the same can be said for the overly high 6th gear too Anyway I better watch the video now, and for these sorts of cars it is critical that the emotive part of the driving experience is right up there ... after all you do not buy one of these to not enjoy yourself do you. Same problem hurt the NSX ... they isolated the driver too much (btw I am only going by mag. articles as I have never driven a NSX ...) Pete | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2928 Registered: 10-2002 |
Gary Read what I wrote again. Than a Murcie. As a 360 is more tossable than a 575. Of course a CS would feel more tossable than a Gallardo. | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 577 Registered: 3-2002 |
Is it just me, or does it look twitchy as hell on the road scenes? (The oversteer on the track was intentional... silly.) That seemed like a weird video... definitely trying to appeal to the luxury crowd... the New York song with the very non-New York narration... is the connection explained in that narration? I was glad to see them show the Gallardo on a track... even if silly power oversteer stuff... I get the impression that nobody takes their Murcielagos to the track. Anyone ever seen a customer one on track? | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1467 Registered: 6-2002 |
I disagree. Great looking car. | ||
| J R K (Kenyon)
Intermediate Member Username: Kenyon Post Number: 1002 Registered: 10-2002 |
Guys, Here another video of the Gallardo. The more you see the car the more Audi it is... Not the same as any of the 360 models... Its lost its Italian flare..... http://else.dnip.net:8181/ac_link/mv49-lambo_wmt_adsl.asf | ||
| Gary Brauch (Gary_brauch)
New member Username: Gary_brauch Post Number: 42 Registered: 10-2003 |
James said "The Gallardo is much more tossable." You've got to be kidding me! What that a mis-type? The Gallardo is much heavier, Audi-like, 4wd, and it's more tossable than a Stradale? Sheesh! It may be the least tossable supercar out there. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1458 Registered: 6-2002 |
Same wife. | ||
| Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
Member Username: Ferruccio Post Number: 291 Registered: 2-2003 |
Tiff is a old race car driver and likes 2 wheel drive cars. (can't say I blame him) But that is one of the main reasons he was disapointed with the gallardo. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1783 Registered: 10-2001 |
I prefer women without make up anyway | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2924 Registered: 10-2002 |
Allan That does tend to piss them off. | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 677 Registered: 10-2002 |
Is she still the same wife you have now? | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1456 Registered: 6-2002 |
Well, for the trips ive taken, the Diablo front compartment was just enough for clothes for me and my wife. Best was when i bought my Countach, put our stuff in the back, and all my wifes makeup melted. | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1590 Registered: 1-2002 |
brian: no trailer. just pack lightly, bring tools, fluids and haul. most of the CA tracks are only 3hrs away, so i don't need to pack too many clothes, etc. i guess i just enjoy spartan living. | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 675 Registered: 10-2002 |
Brian is quite right. There comes a point where minimum practicality must count. After all, we are talking about street cars, not race models. | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 568 Registered: 3-2002 |
Allan, I agree with you on getting a used Murci over a new Gallardo... easy call, IMO, now that I've seen them in person. However, you're all wet on this: > The arguements on trunk space are pretty pointless. > Neither one of these cars has enough room to pack anything of consequence. You must have never actually opened up a 360! I can pack my computer briefcase behind one seat, a small suitcase behind the other, and in the trunk a toolbox, all my track stuff, a suitcase with clothes, a small toiletry bag on top, and still have a bit of space for souveneirs. Now I am all ready to take a road trip to Monterey with my wife to enjoy Ferrari concors, track, and wine country fun for a week! Try that in the Murci, let alone the Gallardo. Hell, in the Gallardo I couldn't even drive a buddy from one office building to another unless I was willing to ask him to hold both of our computer briefcases in his lap! Where's the fun in that?? Hugh, you're obviously a track guy... but you must trailer your cars to events given you say: 'I never consider "...hmm, how much can I pack..."'. I like to be able to drive to events... but I'm not out to "win", just to have a blast. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2923 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hugh Those are very cool. Best | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2922 Registered: 10-2002 |
Alan Trunk space matters if you want to be able to pack for a long weekend for two and drive from NYC to Vermont which I often do in my cars. I did this often in my TR and my 308. My Maser is perfect for this kind of trip. It's neither better or worse. It's different. I liked the Murcie. It reminded me of my TR. If it had more room for luggage I'd buy one. For how you use your cars or for short trips with your wife to dinner I agree luggage space doesn't matter. | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1589 Registered: 1-2002 |
james: a freind has a vintage spyders 550 replica -- did a rally from SD to Big Sur in it, and it fantastic. I 'm already sold on the new carrera GT. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2921 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hugh The new P supercar although I like the one James Dean drove as well. As for weight I think very light weight construction costs more that most are willing to pay for. (The CF nose of an F40 is 30K) | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1454 Registered: 6-2002 |
The arguements on trunk space are pretty pointless. Neither one of these cars has enough room to pack anything of consequence. As for the Gallardo, i think its a great car, but most likely i will not end up owning one until they are greatly depreciated. The problem is that the Murcielago is now 2 years old, and used low mileage examples are priced right around the new Gallardo. So id rather buy a car that has already substantially depreciated, and is really, in my opinion, twice the car. | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 673 Registered: 10-2002 |
Not fussy, is he? | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1588 Registered: 1-2002 |
James: Of course, you're right re: everyone's got their taste. My opinionation (not only comes from my ass), but from a skewed perspective of a petrol sniffing gearhead. My "daily" has straight springs, no interior, a bucket seat, Ni filled shocks and alcantera "appointments." So, what I say needs to be taken with a giant grain of salt, since I think it's "fun" to see how few miles I can get out of a set of tires and I apex the grocery store aisles. However, (in my fish like mind) the only "apptitude" test that I'm able to furnish on a car is how involving (tactile, visceral and auraly) its, how much glee it generates while I'm driving it (usually by myself, and on an empty desolate backroad) and how it interacts with me (I like a car to whisper every degree of wheel slip by exhaust note, throttle position and how much bucking i'm getting off the steering wheel) and I'd gladly sacrific other "amenities" to attain that sort of "enlightenment." Ultimatly, my personal end point is: how "raw" is this car -- how really raw? The only other "litmus" test, is the one where driving a car, I can't name a dozen components that I'd like to change, or settings I'd alter to better suit my whims of fell, grip and lightness, then I've been stumped and sold. All that aside, i'm a really unique (read: sucker) buyer; I'd take a GT 3 over a 911TT; a 360cs, or a gutted 575 over a sl55 or any other "luxury-sporty-sports" coupe; I don't like f1 trannys; I don't like traction control, but admire ABS; and I never consider "...hmm, how much can I pack..." In the end, everyone needs to drive these cars and not get carried away with spec sheets, 0-60 times, etc (which is exactly what you, others and myself have been trying to say this whole time). BTW, which carrera do you fancy? | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 672 Registered: 10-2002 |
James, Thanks for the great advice. My difficulty is that when I saw the Gallardo in person, it just felt like a chopped off version of the Murcielago. And so having seen the Murcielago as well, the Gallardo just does not appeal to me. I guess Brain has really hit it on the nail when he said the Gallardo "looked chopped off to me... how'd they make such a tiny car so heavy?..." What is your view? | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2920 Registered: 10-2002 |
Brian You are quite right. I guess the weight made the one I drove seem much bigger than a 360. As for storage I also agree the lack of a glove box or even a place for your sunglasses is stupid. I did find the ride very smooth almost lux cruiser and felt it was a very easy and comfortable car to drive. If it had a glovebox and luggage space I'd consider one. I'd also get a Eshift and Nav system and use it on long trips. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Intermediate Member Username: Study Post Number: 1008 Registered: 10-2001 |
So the Gallardo needs a set of short-gears? Any after-market guys working on that yet? I wonder if Lambo would fix this if people continue to complain. 70mph in 1st is a bit much for fun on the street. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2919 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hugh What you just said is very true BUT the bigger problem to me is that many don't realize there's a big difference between what you want on the street and on the track. That's why I really feel it's a big mistake to fall in love with a car before you drive it and before you deceide what you're looking for. The CS would be much more fun on sunday but I bet the Gallardo would more fun day in, day out. It is a bit sad how they have to set up these cars for the street to keep people from killing themselves. There's a lot of that going on. Traction control, anti skid, shock settings. That's one reason why I think the Carrera will be such a great car, they've left most of that off. The downside as they found out is that even experienced drivers can get into trouble very quickly. ( 1 Blown box, 1 wrecked car) | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 566 Registered: 3-2002 |
> They are really quite different. The Murcie is much bigger. We should be clear there... the Murcie is much HEAVIER and the engine compartment is bigger, but suprisingly the car itself is actually a bit smaller (see pic). Take a 360, drop the roof 4 inches, move the firewall forward to the back of the seats (no package shelf) to make room for a couple extra cylinders, and then cut off about half the boot space and put that extra space in back to accommodate a couple more cylinders. I'd argue the 360CS is actually a better daily driver than the Murci, because you can at least carry a fair amount of stuff along with you. I don't think my wife and I could go to a weekend Lambo event in the Murci... not sure we can pack that small. However, I will agree the Murci interior is a lot more comfy/posh than the Stradale. But, based on reviewers comments, I am not ready to concede the Stradale ride will be any harsher than the Murci. The Gallardo has no space at all! The boot might hold milk and eggs... just don't get the 18 count eggs. I really like the Gallardo's seats (great lumbar support), and I've always liked photos of it (including the one below)... but I didn't like its looks at all in person... looked chopped off to me... how'd they make such a tiny car so heavy?... if I buy a Lambo, its still the Murci I'd buy... in that *awesome* metallic yellow they have... Lambo makes some great paint colors.    Those were taken at Lamborghini of Dallas, BTW. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1452 Registered: 6-2002 |
Ernesto, i never take things personally and its always about the car. The description you (according to Tiff) gave of the Gallardo pretty much sums up my description of the 360. Anyways, i agree some of the features on the Gallardo are pretty weak. The 70mph in 1st is rediculous, and the all black interior is rather bland. I have seen 2 tone interiors that look much better though. If it came down to a Gallardo and a regular 360, i would surely take the Gallardo. As for the Stradale, id have to drive them both, since i love the noise, the interior, and even the exterior changes. The performance should be great also. This may be the case when i would choose the Fcar. Believe it or not! Soon to be on Ripleys. But there is another side to the story. The Stradale will undoubtedly be very difficult to get, and they will charge rediculous premiums, which will put its price into Murcielago territory, at which point, id definately buy the Murci. | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1587 Registered: 1-2002 |
that video is really telling, and should dissuade a lot of people from benchracing magazine specs in the future. for as tiff said "... what looks impressive on paper, dissapoints in real life..." from the video, the gallardo lacks: feel; chassis driver communication; suffers from a dampened driver to car interface; and has stupidly high gearing ( 70mph in 1st???). All this seems to point out the fact that the car was engineered to be docile and safe under power (won't get away from the driver), tactful (won't exhaust the driver, but will eventually break a std. gearbox owners wrist) and meant to win every spec sheet comparo in it's class.which is fine, but it hampers the driving experience. around a track, the gallardo would be very, very taxing (in manual form) since you'd be rowing through 1,2 and 3 all day, all the time (unless you get the e-shift), and even then, coming off corners in 1st all day will put a lot of strain on the drivetrain, wear the rears very quickly and will take a lot of throttle feathering to keep the car pointed in the right direction (if you turn off all the gagdets, and manually have to keep the power down, but then you're at a loss since the chassis supresses a lot of feel), or you'll have to correct for all that mentioned understeer by lifting, unwinding and redirecting the car to keep the front end from washing out (if you leave the gadgets on), ultimatly neither "style" allows you to get around a corner quickly -- unless it's a 140mph + corner. again, a 1st gear that maxs at 70mph is a gearbox not meant for a cirucit car, but a top speed boneville car. the car looks tits (the wire mesh in the front dams aside), and it's spec sheet reads like that of an uber-exotic, but i'm not sure what that all translates like to every individual driver. which is why everyone drives what suits them best. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1822 Registered: 2-2001 |
I'll keep my 360 for now, thanks. Anyway, my comment was directed at the fact that the Gallardo (at least according to Tiff) drove like an Audi should - isolated, uninvolving, bland, boring, and low driver feedback. Those are descriptions that you would expect from an Audi, MB, or BMW, but not from an Italian exotic! Although I agree with James that the last word is when you actually drive the car. That is all that matters. I have a drive lined up in about a month on my next trip to NY, and I'll see for myself. No doubt the Gallardo is fast, but then again so is a 911TT and SL55. But those cars are BORING. Now, you dont need to insult anyone. Notice I'm not insulting you, I'm talking about a CAR. You seem to think you are the car and I'm talking about you, thereby creating a need to retaliate. You dont have to feel threatened about this discussion! Ernesto | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2918 Registered: 10-2002 |
Kenneth They are really quite different. The Murcie is much bigger. I'd drive them both. As Murcie's are being discounted slightly I think they're more car for the $ than a 360 at full wack. The Gallardo is much more tossable. A 360 CS is very cool but IMHO it's more of a track car/Sunday than an every day car like the Gallardo or the reg 360. Once again who cares what a reviewer thinks? I'd drive any of these before I bought one. As for Audi their recent racing record is much more impressive than Ferrari's in sports car racing. Best | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1450 Registered: 6-2002 |
Sorry Ernesto, you are a putz. You put stupid rebadged Audi comments in just for this very purpose. We can change this arguement around the way most Fcars comments go. Which car do you think is more useable and comfortable for day to day use, the Stradale or Gallardo? Tiffs comment is great, i agree, but i prefer the numerous magazine covers touting the Gallardo as a 360 Killer. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1820 Registered: 2-2001 |
There you go again Allan. You cant stop being a complete moron for a few days and get personal. Did I insult you? You definitely have the biggest inferiority complex I have ever seen. Go get that little brain of yours checked, because you definitely have something wrong up there. "Don't go cancelling your 360 order" LOL.... I love Tiff... Ernesto | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1448 Registered: 6-2002 |
Some of your comments are rather stupid, starting with yours, Ernesto. Putz. Zak, you are confusing driver opinion, for fact. The sound cannot be compared to the sound of the 360 Stradale, as Ferrari has equipped the car with a sport exhaust. Listen to a normal 360,550,575 etc, and they sound like sewing machines. Put a sport exhaust on the Gallardo and then listen to it. As for racing, the Gallardo will no doubt tear appart a regular 360, the 360 Stadale we will have to wait and see. | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 670 Registered: 10-2002 |
Great video. For $100,000's difference (as informed by Allan), though, I think I would much rather go for the Murcielago. | ||
| rick ramage (720)
Junior Member Username: 720 Post Number: 114 Registered: 7-2003 |
i only get audio and no video also. brian, i think you and i use Mac's and there must be some oddball thing with the WMV player on the mac?? | ||
| Joe Bennett (Formula1joe)
New member Username: Formula1joe Post Number: 17 Registered: 7-2003 |
The car has a great sound, but I will take a Ferrari any day over it! | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1819 Registered: 2-2001 |
Another great video! Thanks!! I dont know why Speed TV doesnt pick up these shows in syndication. From what I can tell from Tiff's comments, the Gallardo truly is an Audi in Lambo clothing. Ernesto | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1773 Registered: 10-2001 |
Merci ! Si j'en trouve un aussi , je te call | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1716 Registered: 9-2002 |
Tu es le premier sur mon list, mon ami. --Dan | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1766 Registered: 10-2001 |
lol un cachet d'argent . If you trouve one , then give me a call | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1712 Registered: 9-2002 |
Not a chance, man, not a chance. Jusqu'a je trouve un cachet d'argent, qu'est ce que je peux faire? --Dan | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1761 Registered: 10-2001 |
Dan, you can blame me Once it will be in your garage, you will thank me | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1709 Registered: 9-2002 |
WMP downloaded some new codec package, but the player worked fine. No issues. Interestingly enough, Tiff's assessment might actually convince some people to buy it - after all, not all of us were Le Mans drivers. For 'practical' purposes, it might work better. Than again, find me a Stradale. ANDREW - I blame you for making me like that car! --Dan | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1759 Registered: 10-2001 |
Now Tiff only needs to change his mind about the Mclaren F1.. | ||
| J R K (Kenyon)
Member Username: Kenyon Post Number: 995 Registered: 10-2002 |
I cannot seem to get the visual version ??? | ||
| zak dhabalia (Dhabaz)
New member Username: Dhabaz Post Number: 25 Registered: 7-2003 |
Great video, very disappointing car by the sound of it as well as handling relative to 360. Great to see that F cars are still way ahead of the other italian competition which most of us suspected anyway. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1444 Registered: 6-2002 |
Dont worry Dan, im sure many more comments will arise! | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1701 Registered: 9-2002 |
Allan, I prefer the old sh!t-storming comments. I found it amusing. Never had any beef with you. --Dan | ||
| Eric Vartanian (Evartanian)
Member Username: Evartanian Post Number: 302 Registered: 3-2002 |
Worked for me Brian. | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 561 Registered: 3-2002 |
I've downloaded twice... just get audio, no video... just me? | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1442 Registered: 6-2002 |
That was a great video! I would definately take the Gallardo over a regular 360, but id have to drive a 360 Stradale to make my mind up between those 2. I prefer the Gallardos exterior, but i love the Stradales interior and sound, and improved exterior over the 360. | ||
| Michael Palilonis (Mpalilonis)
New member Username: Mpalilonis Post Number: 17 Registered: 9-2003 |
Hahahaha.....see Allen even Tiff agrees the 360 is better then the Lambo. Just teasing you man, no hard feelings. ~Mike | ||
| Paul Loussia (Bumboola)
Junior Member Username: Bumboola Post Number: 220 Registered: 3-2003 |
Nice video. Nice car. | ||
| J R K (Kenyon)
Member Username: Kenyon Post Number: 994 Registered: 10-2002 |
Now you can compare the gallardo between the 360 CS. Ferrari sounds much better. http://www.polarisuk.com/video/auto/gallardo.wmv |