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David Moore (Speedmoore)
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 11:09 pm:   

Gotcha Rob, and done
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Post Number: 4662
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 10:55 pm:   

David, I would post this possibility in the General section. We have 10-15 355 and 3-5 360 Challenge owners on this site. Also, from just these users they know maybe 50-60 others that track their Challenge cars. Many wouldn't want to race them (even under vintage rules), but many would. I think the rules should follow the Challenge rules. I'm a strong believer in spec type rules to keep racing close and inexpensive.

David, there's something else being thought about from the SCCA Pro guys to add a Pro T1/T2 series along with the current PSM, FSCCA, and other semi-pro SCCA classes.
David Moore (Speedmoore)
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 10:38 pm:   

Rob:
The rules are also written to keep costs for being competitive down. I.E. you can't just go wild throwing turbos and F1 stuff on like in a "Run what ya Brung" series. I clearly understand what you mean when you consider what it costs to run in WC, been there done that, it ain't cheap. Our championship run in 99 before the factories showed up in WC was well over $500k. When the factories (Audi, BMW) showed up, budgets doubled. Hence, why you don't see us in WC these days.
David Moore (Speedmoore)
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 10:33 pm:   

The races are sanctioned by HSR or SVRA and run by their rules. Contact is a no no as is overly agressive driving.

The rules are enforced to not only protect the cars (which some are worth 7 figures) but also the drivers.

But let me tell you from first hand experience, the racing has a full spectrum of drivers with cruisers at the back of the pack to intense guys like me up front. But, respect for safety and each others machinery is paramount.

The series just started and is low on cars. Bringing Ferrari into the series could be just what the doctor ordered.

If there is enough interest, I will pursue this full tilt with the organizers. My company would also help sponsor the races too as we have already pledged to do so. They currently have Dunlop and a few others (can't remember) as sponsors and are trying for others like BBS, etc as well as a TV package.

This series is very raw, so the potential for us to be on the ground floor and make it happen is very real.

David
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Post Number: 4661
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Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 10:18 pm:   

I would be very interested in this. I will race SCCA T1 if I can't find anything else, but I wouldn't mind a tad tighter rules on contact. Would this USAGT series have similar strict contact rules as vintage racing?

Otherwise the only real place for us is WC, which is a little closer to professional than "semi". Much more money too as you know David.
David Moore (Speedmoore)
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 10:12 pm:   

This past weekend, I discussed bringing Ferrari Challenge cars to HSR (Historic Sports Car Racing) with their competition director as a few of you have expressed interest in doing so.

The response was YES. In fact he suggested the newly formed USAGT series for Cup/RSR/GT3R Porsches might be the ideal place and have classes for ALL the challenge cars as well as setup a Classic Porsche vs. Ferrari dual.

So, I've got their ear. Now I want yours. How do you feel about this and are any of you guys with Challenge cars interested to do some more "Semi-professional" racing in conjunction with HSR and SVRA? Please contact me via this forum or PM me [email protected]

This could be just what we need to see Ferrari cars running in the vintage race weekends again. This past weekend, I saw no fewer than 20 Ferrari cars of all types at the track. However, they were daily drivers and their owners were racing NASCARS, GTP, INDY, F1, Can-Am etc. Would be nice to see Ferrari owners racing Ferrari cars.

Off my soap box for now ;-)

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