| Author | Message | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Advanced Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2554 Registered: 7-2001 |
Dale, the bracket we had made is specific to the 308/328. I don't know of anyone that has plans for a 550, sorry! | ||
| Dale W Spradling (Drtax)
Member Username: Drtax Post Number: 387 Registered: 4-2003 |
Jim/Tillman, my apologies because somehow I missed this thread. I don't know if this bracket fits a Maranello, but I'd still be interested just to get the ball rolling. So who do I contact? Thanks in advance, Dale | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 936 Registered: 11-2001 |
Mine's completed and in. I chose to paint it to make it blend a bit better. Unfortunately my painting skills are suboptimal, but still I'm happy with the results. The extinguisher is a Home Depot all-purpose model with the optional metal bracket. I had the allen-head bolts already, I thought they added a nice touch. Pics below, please pardon the debris on the carpet!      | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2487 Registered: 7-2001 |
The brackets arrived today. I'll bring them Saturday night and Tuesday night. Hopefully I'll see all of you by then. They look great, I'm very pleased. They're cut from a single piece of aluminum, no welds. | ||
| Alberto (Aabreu)
Junior Member Username: Aabreu Post Number: 103 Registered: 9-2001 |
Byron: If you have the contact info, I'd appreciate getting it. Jim: Thanks for the response. Can you post a picture? Thanks. | ||
| Byron (Bmyth)
Intermediate Member Username: Bmyth Post Number: 1179 Registered: 10-2002 |
Alberto, I ordered a bracket directly from Peter... let me know and I'll give you his contact info. I think it was something ~$20. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2435 Registered: 7-2001 |
Sorry Alberto, they've been shipped already! They should be here this week. | ||
| Alberto (Aabreu)
Junior Member Username: Aabreu Post Number: 102 Registered: 9-2001 |
Jim: Is it too late to join in on the order? If not, please let me know. Thanks. | ||
| David Moore (Speedmoore)
Junior Member Username: Speedmoore Post Number: 59 Registered: 4-2003 |
Brey-Krause: http://www.bkauto.com/ferrari/r9510.php already fabricates a Stainless Steel bracket to hold a hand held extinguisher that bolts to the front rails of the passenger seat for many cars. The ones we've installed at our shop have been for Porsche 911s. (we are a dealer). They make one for the Testarossa already. The porsche stainless steel verion, which would be similar to what a 308 would need, cost $69 If someone wants to bring by their 308, we can measure and give them the dimensions to build one. We probably would get a discounted rate for doing the prototype, etc. Frankly, there are better alternatives than a handheld. WE install systems all the time in our customer's race cars and about 4 or 5 per year in street cars. We install with a number of zones in a passenger car and use the larger bottle mounted out of the way (front or rear trunk) of the driver and passengers. Usually we have 1 or 2 nozzles for the engine bay, 1 or 2 in the cockpit, and 1 in the trunk/bonnet area. Regardless where the gas tank or fuel cell, there is always one located adjacent. The systems we use are manufactured by SPA which are the same units used in F1/IMSA/IRL/etc. the best. They are electrically actuated by their own battery powered source and have an arming switch to turn off as well as check the battery. They can also be made to have more than one activation switch. They cost, installed, around $1,300 in a street car because of interior panels. Race car, $1,000 Small price for good insurance. | ||
| Yoshi Ace (Tiger_ace)
Junior Member Username: Tiger_ace Post Number: 165 Registered: 5-2003 |
Thank you for the arrangement, Jim E | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2315 Registered: 7-2001 |
I ordered 4 brackets, one each for me, Tillman, Ron and Yoshi. Nobody else piped up so you'll have to do without. I mailed the check yesterday and should have them in the next week or two. Expect about $25/each with shipping. I'll let you know when they arrive. | ||
| Yoshi Ace (Tiger_ace)
Junior Member Username: Tiger_ace Post Number: 162 Registered: 5-2003 |
I see, he's a fellow Ferrarista! I was worried that you may have some min. qty to place an order. If he's doing a favor to you, that's great !! Thanks for letting me in on the deal, too. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2256 Registered: 7-2001 |
Yoshi, this is just a Ferrari guy that has agreed to build a few for us, there is no minimum, nor do I want to bombard him with a ton of orders. He's not trying to make money, he's simply trying to help out fellow Ferrari guys. | ||
| Yoshi Ace (Tiger_ace)
Junior Member Username: Tiger_ace Post Number: 161 Registered: 5-2003 |
Extruding aluminum is normally cost more than welding steel as aluminum costs more than steel, so this is really good price! The reason I asked for min. qty was to find more buyers. You can post this on General Discussion, and also bring the matter to FoD. Their customers maybe interested, too. If you would like, I can post it in FCJ too. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2251 Registered: 7-2001 |
Yoshi, I think he cuts it from a single piece of aluminum so there are no welds. Rob, Bob, are you interested? I want to get this done. | ||
| Yoshi Ace (Tiger_ace)
Junior Member Username: Tiger_ace Post Number: 160 Registered: 5-2003 |
Wow, that's half the price of my vendor! What is the qty of a batch? (min. qty) I will take one, too. This one is sanded where welded part of a bracket, right? Very good buy!!! | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 855 Registered: 11-2001 |
I'd take one | ||
| Ron R (Ronr)
Junior Member Username: Ronr Post Number: 215 Registered: 10-2002 |
Yes, I am still interested, Jim. Bring on the safety!  | ||
| Byron (Bmyth)
Intermediate Member Username: Bmyth Post Number: 1104 Registered: 10-2002 |
Jim, of course I wasn't implying that I didn't know how to drill a hole... but you're right, I don't have my extinguisher yet... and maybe it would be difficult to know how I would want to mount it. I don't know where to drill the holes, that's all! And yes, I can use a can of spraypaint, too... no need for the sarcasm. ... just got an email response from Peter R... I think I'll just order from him rather than having it shipped through texas, then cali.. thanks, though! | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2243 Registered: 7-2001 |
C'mon Byron, you can drill a hole. The hole for your extinguisher mount is all you'll need to drill and no one else can do it for you because we don't have your extinguisher! I bet you can use a can of spraypaint too. | ||
| Byron (Bmyth)
Intermediate Member Username: Bmyth Post Number: 1103 Registered: 10-2002 |
Jim, I am in So Cal, but also interested in this group buy. Is there a chance someone can help me drill the holes/paint it black? - that is, of course, if you will be doing it for your own... Anyways, please include me in the purchase. I may be contacted at [email protected] thanks! | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2242 Registered: 7-2001 |
Ok guys, Peter from the chat board has agreed to make us a batch of these for $20/each. They're aluminum and will arrive to you sanded, but unfinished. You'll have to drill the holes for your fire extinguisher and paint it if you want it painted. I need a count, how many do we want? I'm figuring seven based on the response here, but need to know ASAP so I can tell Peter. | ||
| Yoshi Ace (Tiger_ace)
Junior Member Username: Tiger_ace Post Number: 108 Registered: 5-2003 |
Jim E. I got a quote from metal fabricators. The actual drawing doesn't show the position of 2 holes & its diameter, so they quoted w/out these holes. Material is steel, and there is no sanding after welded. These works require man power which adds cost. It is powder painted in black. Anyway, Min qty is 20 pcs @ $39.00/ea., and 50 pcs @ $35.00/ea. Lead time is 2-3 wks. Pricing will be quite different after 100 pcs, that's what a vendor is saying. As of now, I don't know how many pieces to be made, and you may have some modification (adding holes, sanding of welding, etc) wanted, please let me know in that case. You can PM from my profile, if you wish. BTW, I requested 1 pcs of prototype, but they will charge about $300 for 1 pcs of prototype. If we can show actual sample to them and let they quote, it will be cheaper than making 1 pcs prototype. | ||
| Yoshi Ace (Tiger_ace)
Junior Member Username: Tiger_ace Post Number: 75 Registered: 5-2003 |
Sorry, Jim I totally misunderstood the info. I thought Mr. M. Charness was the designer & supplier for the fire extinguisher w/ a bracket. (I should read more carefully) Based on this drawing, I will get a quote for several finish with aluminum & steel. Hope to post in few days. Maybe after July 4th weekend. It is just unbelievable for some people to do this himself, and amazing how resourceful this board is. (I mean it) Jee, my prior post sounds so off subject now..... | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 1954 Registered: 7-2001 |
Yoshi, this is a bracket that a guy on this board designed, and he shared the plans with the rest of us. He doesn't make them to sell, he just made himself one and shared the plans. I'm not too worried about the cost, how high could it be? I'd be surprised if it's over $50 in aluminum. | ||
| Yoshi Ace (Tiger_ace)
Junior Member Username: Tiger_ace Post Number: 74 Registered: 5-2003 |
If we are to use aluminum, to duplicate this bracket, we have to chromate with black, which adds cost. Jim E, why do we need to make this bracket? Don't they sell it also? Duplicating something like this could cause some problem, especially there's evidence on this thread. I will read this sight throughly, and check it out.. FYI, the drawing is good enough from this sight. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 1952 Registered: 7-2001 |
The plans for the holder can be found at the link I provided below. It suggests using aluminum, which I'm fine with. The link again... http://www.tradetutor.com/raceprep/ | ||
| Francis Hassis (Fxh328)
New member Username: Fxh328 Post Number: 4 Registered: 6-2003 |
I would be interested in one. All I have heard is that the car should have a Halon extinguisher in it? Maybe they are rated for higher temps? | ||
| Ron R (Ronr)
Junior Member Username: Ronr Post Number: 187 Registered: 10-2002 |
Here's a thread on the General board about the type of extinguisher to use. http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/276342.html?1056505728 | ||
| Ron R (Ronr)
Junior Member Username: Ronr Post Number: 185 Registered: 10-2002 |
I'm interested. As far as leaving the extinguishers in the car... some are probably designed for in home use, not requiring a high pressure container. I imagine if you buy one for heavier dutier usage, it will be rated for higher pressure (higher temperature). The one I have under the sink (in case the sink catches on fire) is good for -40 to 120F. | ||
| Yoshi Ace (Tiger_ace)
Junior Member Username: Tiger_ace Post Number: 72 Registered: 5-2003 |
I'm interested, but how is the safety of extinguisher. As you all know, inside of a car does get very hot, and fire extinguisher could explode. (happened once to me inside of the trunk of Acura sedan. It was my fault leaving it in there for few days after buying it for my house) Regular extinguisher (you know ones you can buy at Walmart) has max. temp of 110 to 120F. I also know some metal fabricators as I work with them for metal enclosures. Who will provide the drawings? What material & plating is required? (bare steel is OK? or aluminum preferred?) | ||
| CHAD STEVENS (Tahoecrs)
New member Username: Tahoecrs Post Number: 47 Registered: 6-2002 |
i know of a metal worker, has a great shop around 635 and 35. I can call a friend that has his phone number if yall would like. it looks easy to make. let me know | ||
| alberto bavai (Abavai)
Junior Member Username: Abavai Post Number: 64 Registered: 10-2002 |
lp | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1300 Registered: 3-2001 |
I'd be interested in looking at it. | ||
| Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member Username: Future328driver Post Number: 389 Registered: 12-2001 |
I am sure that Norwoods coulds make one up. | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 700 Registered: 11-2001 |
I'd be interested in one. I don't know any metal workers, unfortunately. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5375 Registered: 12-2000 |
yes I'm interested. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 1950 Registered: 7-2001 |
I've decided it's time to put an extinguisher in the Ferrari based on recent events, including Tillmans smoking cigarette lighter. Mike Charness designed a 'Harness' to attach the extinguisher to the bottom of the passenger seat and it occurred to me that with as many 328/308's that we have around here, we might get a group order together to have a batch made. The design is here: http://www.tradetutor.com/raceprep/ Does anyone know someone that fabricates metal parts? Is anyone else interested? |