| Author | Message | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 6376 Registered: 12-2000 |
JRV, Let us help you. It's not too late. Do not give up hope. You can renew your reputation and get back on good terms with everyone. I understand you've had some tough times lately, but it's not helping things to outlash at everyone. I've been contacted offline by no less than a dozen people who have had some negative personal association with you in the past few months. A common trend between all of these is your explosive temper. JRV, maybe one or two are out to get you  , but don't you think the root cause to all your problems may be within yourself. Seek medical help, there are great drugs for your problem. I'm not an expert, so I don't know if it's bi-polar or what. However, something is going on for you to exhibit this type of behavior on the board and in your personal relationships. I'm really concerned as a fellow human being. Get help. It's ok, sometimes life is tough. You're one of the best mechanics in the world and everyone respects that. You're upfront and to the point personality is also respected. However, your outlashing explosive behavior on the board and with your personal interactions is not healthy. Concerned, rob | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Advanced Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2874 Registered: 1-2002 |
JR, this will be my last post on this matter. You never asked any questions, IIRC. You have, however, consistently made accusations and suggestions of improprieties, conspiracy theories, and other skulduggery. If all you did was ask questions, you would not be getting such reactions...but perhaps a plea for attention is part of your agenda. So, remove yourself from your own self-made pedestal, and look in the mirror before accusing others...as has been suggested to you by others previously. "Al is not the club babysitter, try to get that to sink in!!!" Correct. But he is your best hope to air your grievances & effect solutions....if that is your true motive, which is unlikely. Yet, you have a deathly fear of even calling him and saying hello. No stones in your skivvies!! Why is that? Your ostrich-like attitude on this makes you appear devious, underhanded, and on a different agenda. Try to get that to sink in. "And it is worth noting that the outrage over the asking of pertinent club function questions has been recieved with outrage by only 3 people here !!! Uhhh...3 regions represented here, 3 outraged individuals over some questions...." Uh-huh. Whatever. Your conspiracy theories are truly uninteresting. Let me see if I recall this right: you whine & suggest all sorts of evil deeds & wonder why FCA leadership doesn't respond to you; 2 of us (me & Rob) do, wirth FACTS and VALID SUGGESTIONS; you ignore said facts & suggestions and claim our responses represent outrage? Puh-LEEZE! BTW, please learn to count. Only 2 of us responded. "Do the math JR....why are you so deathly scared to ask your "questions" to the one person who can help you rather than air all of your character assassinations and conspiracy theories here instead as a way to further your own clearly-evident agenda???? Does someone have something to hide, JR??????? | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 2473 Registered: 11-2002 |
>> you try to blame your own vitriol on Tillman??? << Dave, asking questions IS NOT vitriol or whining, get that thru your elected head !!! Al is not the club babysitter, try to get that to sink in!!! And it is worth noting that the outrage over the asking of pertinent club function questions has been recieved with outrage by only 3 people here !!! Uhhh...3 regions represented here, 3 outraged individuals over some questions....and 1 local regional poster coming thru with some answers. Do the math dave....why are 3 individuals so outraged over a few questions ???? Does someone have something to hide??????? | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Advanced Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2872 Registered: 1-2002 |
JR, I just so love to expose a blatant liar in the morning. If you will scroll down just a bit, you will find this tidbit in one of your own posts...and this is but one example: "Much like the election notices that were sent out but no one recieved...it's better that questions are asked than be left wanting...don't you agree." So, you try to blame your own vitriol on Tillman??? Shame on you. As for "tattling" on me to National about whatever "misbehavior" you imagine I have committed, I will quote our Commander in Chief: BRING IT ON! Why do I say this? Well, for two reasons, JR. (1) you have already proven to be scared sh!tless to even call Al to introduce yourself and air your "concerns"; I seriously doubt you have the stones to contact National; (2) and even if I am wrong on #1, I can already hear the laughing from National as they pee their pants while inserting your "complaint" in their circular file. Remember, we VOLUNTEER our time to the FCA. Member feedback on our performance is always important...but I think they will look at your "complaint" (if you even have the cojones to make one...smirk) and compare it with your atrocious character assassinations of Grady, and your barely-concealed apparent desire to influence the Houston chapter in order to push business to your repair shop, and draw their own conclusions. My guess is that they will agree with the assessments of Rob, Peter, and myself. So, as I said, bring it on. I could use some entertainment... And to repost something from one of my earlier posts, "JR, it was just a simple question posed 20+ times...contact Al De Lauro--when?" Well, JR? Why your deathly fear to contact Al, who is truly one of the nicest people I have ever met? WHY? Waiting... | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 2471 Registered: 11-2002 |
>>And it was you who was whining about "no one received" Al's January letter regarding soliciting names for a ballot.<< You're Mistaken !!! It was Tillman Strahan that brought it up and I certianly don't consider asking questions whining. Does National know you post Bile all day & all night on the internet and then claim you are their representative????? I think they should be informed. | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Advanced Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2867 Registered: 1-2002 |
JR, I am 42. And it was you who was whining about "no one received" Al's January letter regarding soliciting names for a ballot. Having you contact Al is not him babysitting anyone--it was merely a suggestion for the best way to get info you claim you never received. Yet, you seem terrified to even introduce yourself to him and to share with him (a non-FC person) your concerns. That tells me, and many, many others here, that what you say your motives are and what they REALLY are are vastly different. To redirect your post, JR, truthfully it's you showing you are devoid of character and morally bankrupt. Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle. If this is the sort of person who potentially represents new chapter leadership Heaven Help FCA. How old are you, JR? | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 2470 Registered: 11-2002 |
>>it was just a simple question posed 20+ times...contact Al De Lauro--when<< Dave, I've said it once I'll say it again, I doubt very seriously it's Al's job to babysit supposedly grownups!!!! I mean really, don't you think that goes without saying, let alone twice, how old are you Dave? >>Rob, you are right: I should not have used such profanity. It is out of character for me to do so. However,<< Truthfully it's you showing you are devoid of character and morally bankrupt. If this is the side the FCA wants to show potential new members Heaven Help FCA. | ||
| Peter Gozinya (Blingmeister)
New member Username: Blingmeister Post Number: 16 Registered: 9-2003 |
Indeed it is, Dave. Rob, you are right: I should not have used such profanity. It is out of character for me to do so. However, I felt someone needed to squash that little cockroach JRV real hard, and so I did. I will not use that sort of language here again. My apologies, Rob. | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Advanced Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2862 Registered: 1-2002 |
...and JR's silence is deafening. 'Nuff said. | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Advanced Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2860 Registered: 1-2002 |
JR, it was just a simple question posed 20+ times...contact Al De Lauro--when. no need to keep avoiding the issue and further reducing your "cred" man! | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 6366 Registered: 12-2000 |
I can log IP addresses, but irrelevant if from a ISP that uses dynamic addressing like AOL or the other majors. Bling's language was way outline to begin with, but improved, I would take action if it continued. FC is a PG-13 site. But seeing what they put in PG-13 movies these days I might go down to PG. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 2466 Registered: 11-2002 |
Dave, it was just a simple question...disclosure-when. no need to get your panties all in a wad man! 1 down, 2 ta go. | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Advanced Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2859 Registered: 1-2002 |
"Dave, it's SOP procedure here to force people to post pictures of themselves, attack them and go to great lenghts to berate and otherwise expose them....why is this an exception???? [because this supposed SOP is WRONG and IRRELEVANT, that's why] Why is OBVIOUS Dave!!!! [say what? complete sentences, please] BTW: I kept waiting for you to bring up club issues and ask/answer questions, but when you didn't....I did!! [wrong as usual, JR; I answered ALL of the questions you & others asked, and suggested you contact AL for the ones I was unable to answer; I DO NOT APPRECIATE YOUR DISTORTION OF THE TRUTH AND THE FACTS here, JR; it is VERY unseemly; and I again DEMAND to know why you seem to have a deathly fear of contacting Al; could it be that your stated motives and your real motives here are vastly different?? ] Thought you didn't like Clinton, why now are you trying to fall back on his Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy ????" [ha ha; reread my posts, including this one, and stop fibbing about the facts] | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 2465 Registered: 11-2002 |
Dave, it's SOP procedure here to force people to post pictures of themselves, attack them and go to great lenghts to berate and otherwise expose them....why is this an exception???? Why is OBVIOUS Dave!!!! { } BTW: I kept waiting for you to bring up club issues and ask/answer questions, but when you didn't....I did!! Thought you didn't like Clinton, why now are you trying to fall back on his Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy ???? { } | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Advanced Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2857 Registered: 1-2002 |
And AGAIN: why are you unwilling and unable to contact Al with all of your endless concerns & conspiracy theories. You owe all of us an explanation of why you consistently ignore that suggestion...don't you agree? | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Advanced Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2856 Registered: 1-2002 |
Aww, here we go again... No, I don't agree. His identity is irrelevant to me. Why should it matter? Facts are facts, and he did present facts, albeit in a rather profane manner. In addition, it was YOU who suggested that I knew his identity. Therefore, it is YOU who should either prove that or can it. Don't you agree? | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 2464 Registered: 11-2002 |
>>Your suggestion that I know this person is erroneous. If you do, perhaps you could fill me in??]<< Why me ???? Rob can get his IP addy in about a minute or two, better yet Blingy could just tell everyone his true identity himself...don't you agree? { } | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Advanced Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2855 Registered: 1-2002 |
...must...resist...urge...not...to...snork...coffee...all...over...self...and...keyboard...and...monitor...while...laughing...to...the...point...of...tears......... Rob, I admire your succinctness! JR's actions speak louder than his words. It is too bad he doesn't see that. Oh, well. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 6365 Registered: 12-2000 |
I think over all of these threads the past few weeks one thing is clear to everyone on here except one. JRV =  At least there's an explanation and it puts me at peace. | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Advanced Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2854 Registered: 1-2002 |
JR, please see my comments inserted below: Dave, without disclosure what of anything could anyone show??????? [chicken or egg, JR; you are consistently seeing evil conspiracies, wrong doing, a half-empty glass; I prefer to see the exact opposite, and assueme th ebest in people until they prove otherwise; usually I am right; I have found Grady & Al to be nothing but highly honorable & honest, and to be outstanding stewards of their members' money; your assuming the worst in every post is very unseemly & biased, IMO, and is mean-spirited and unwarranted] >>JR, good question<< Much like the election notices that were sent out but no one recieved [NOT true; do you only read stuff that you agree with??? your claim here is complete BS, my man; I woul dsay the VAST majority of members I have spoken with received it; it was mailed on January 17 of thios year; IIRC, you didn't join until July; so what are you complaining about, then???? and why on Earth do you STILL REFUSE to contact Al? this does NOT speak well of whatever your real intentions are here, and I say that in the best possible intent & spirit] ...it's better that questions are asked than be left wanting...don't you agree. [yes; and it would also be better if you would stop refusing to contact Al if you TRULY want to gain info & manke improvements...don't you agree?] sounds like you have been forthcoming , good for you, now if the others will follow your lead ... [JR, no one has NOT been forthcoming; rather, it is you who refuses to seek out the info sent out to all members active as of January 17, 2003; since you were not a member than and are now, and since you are desiring this info, and I have repeatedly directed you to Al, yet you seem unwilling & unable to contact him, what am I or anyone else here ot believe except that what you say & what you mean are 2 entirely different things] >> As for your "mascot...bowls" comment: what on earth does this mean? This makes no sense<< I thought that would be obvious, even to you....you know your buddy of the cloth and secret pen pal "peter goesinya" aka - blingmiester...spewing his putrid bile. His intent and purpose here along with his identity is very transparent. [??? Buddy of the cloth???? Secret pen pal??? SAY WHAT? Again, this makes NO SENSE!!!! I have never had any personal contact from Peter, and I challenge you to prove otherwise or can it. Your choice. But stirring the pot simply to be rude is not something I will endorse or participate in. While I do not choose to endorse Peter's language, I think the spirit of his message was just matching your own harshness. His intent? His purpose here? I have no clue of either, and I would venture to say neither do you. As to his identity, I am VERY curious of that. I do not know any members in Fredericksberg, as I have previously posted. Your suggestion that I know this person is erroneous. If you do, perhaps you could fill me in??] | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 2463 Registered: 11-2002 |
>>If you can show any evidence warranting such a mean-spirited comment, I will listen<< Dave, without disclosure what of anything could anyone show??????? >>JR, good question<< Much like the election notices that were sent out but no one recieved...it's better that questions are asked than be left wanting...don't you agree. sounds like you have been forthcoming , good for you, now if the others will follow your lead ... >> As for your "mascot...bowls" comment: what on earth does this mean? This makes no sense<< I thought that would be obvious, even to you....you know your buddy of the cloth and secret pen pal "peter goesinya" aka - blingmiester...spewing his putrid bile. His intent and purpose here along with his identity is very transparent. | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Advanced Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2853 Registered: 1-2002 |
JR, good question. I have disclosed our chapter's financial condition (I.e., $0 in treasury currently; all previous fund-raiser $$ went directly to Make-A-Wish Foundation)to my members several times. This weekend, the region's leaders are having a discussion of how the new segment of annual dues destined for each chapter will be allocated & accounted for in 2004. I will share this with my members after we reach a decision. At the risk of hopping back into a discussion I dropped out of a while back...you are right, the sums are VERY small...and there are no foxes guarding any henhouses. Your seeming paranoia is alarming and unwarranted. If you can show any evidence warranting such a mean-spirited comment, I will listen, but to just throw it out there, as you have with so many other flames, does not do your "cause" justice. I say that not as a flame, but in the spirit of wishing good relations among all members. Again (as I have previously recommended until I was blue in the face--but which you seem unwilling or unable to to for some unexplained reason), CALL OR EMAIL AL DE LAURO to discuss and/or see the Region's accounting. I am not sure why you seem so scared to do this, but it is the shortest path to the info you seek.....if, in fact, you are sincere in seeking this info. As for this: "We know all the leadership posts and lurks here (hi guys) and they even bring their mascot (or more likely leader) here to relieve his bowls." I & Rob Lay have been VERY open about posting here. As far as I know, neither Mark nor Franco nor Grady reads or posts on FC, so I am not sure what you mean by "lurks". As for your "mascot...bowls" comment: what on earth does this mean? This makes no sense. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 2460 Registered: 11-2002 |
>>Excellent question.<< Thanks. Posting a question about elections here got results...brought out many lurkers and actually resulted in someone/s taking some action on behalf of the membership for a change. We know all the leadership posts and lurks here (hi guys) and they even bring their mascot (or more likely leader) here to relieve his bowls. So it seems like a good place to start. Surely there's Regional Financial Disclosure isn't there? We may not be talking huge sums, but in a Post Enron/Sietel Houston, one of the lessons learned is to not let the Fox's gaurd the chicken coop. Regards, JRV | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1533 Registered: 3-2001 |
Excellent question. But I'm not sure you'll find the answer here. Try here: http://www.ferrari-talk.hou | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 2459 Registered: 11-2002 |
Is this information shared with all the members (hopefully) ? It would be interesting to see where and how the yearly dues are being used and by how many. |