| Author | Message | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 275 Registered: 4-2003 |
Just like espresso and martinis! I know what I'll be having tonight!  | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 6239 Registered: 8-2002 |
LOL, Gus... There's something about insuring the health and lives of thousands of people and drinking that doesn't mix, either... but i'll tell you what DOES mix... OJ and vodka... | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 273 Registered: 4-2003 |
DES, That's okay buddy. You've seen the town that I work in and I have to be sober all day. Something about appraising customer cars and drinking alcohol that doesn't mix. Go figure. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 6237 Registered: 8-2002 |
Unfortunately, Gus, no... i've been sober all day... Ugh... | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 270 Registered: 4-2003 |
DES - Protector of all that is good and sacred on Fchat. Love ya buddy! Anything good in the liquor cabinet today? | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 6235 Registered: 8-2002 |
"true" should be replaced with 'traditional'; collecting the perfectly stock stuff from the factory does not a 'true' collector make- just traditional. Do you think Jim's not a 'true' collector 'cause his finished P4 will have a roof when the one that raced was open...? Or 'cause J6 doesn't have it's original serial # plate...? i could go on and on... | ||
| Ken Ross (Kdross)
Member Username: Kdross Post Number: 445 Registered: 2-2002 |
Todd: I have someone interested in your car at a price above $50K. Email me at [email protected] for the contact info. If he buys the car then you have to pay Hutch the $100.00. Ken | ||
| Ken Ross (Kdross)
Member Username: Kdross Post Number: 444 Registered: 2-2002 |
Eli: There is a McIntosh (spelling?) radio upgrade for the 360 that is awesome if you are willing to spend the $6K or so for the system. While a car with the McIntosh will have a great sound system, that particular 360 for a true collector will be worth less in value than a totally "stock" car. A true collector wants a car the way it left the factory regardless of the quality of the upgrades. If you plan on keeping your 360 for awhile, you do not plan on showing your car, and you have the extra cash, then I would look into the McIntosh system. | ||
| Erik (Teenferrarifan)
Member Username: Teenferrarifan Post Number: 298 Registered: 2-2003 |
I think this car will fetch $50k I have never seen it but if you want a 328 and live in the tri-state area they are pretty tough to find in the classifieds. If you go to algar they will try and sell that car for much more. They had two 308's there a few months back and they were asking low to mid 40's for. So for an extra 5-10g's I would rather buy a good 328 IMHO. Just my 2cents Erik | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 6226 Registered: 8-2002 |
Augustine, i'm busy as hell and i'm STILL all over the board; i need a life... | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 268 Registered: 4-2003 |
DES, Yeah, I'm bored here at work, but not that bored. Okay, maybe that bored. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 6223 Registered: 8-2002 |
Eli, bookmark this thread, it doesn't happen too often... | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 591 Registered: 4-2002 |
wow, even DES is making sense. Ken, i never understood why upgrading a stereo system bring the value of the car down. i have been told by my dealer the same thing also. the stereo on my 360 is horrible but am scared to touch it because of the drop in value. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 6220 Registered: 8-2002 |
Gus, you just wanted to up your post count...! | ||
| Ken Ross (Kdross)
Member Username: Kdross Post Number: 443 Registered: 2-2002 |
Hutch: Done. Ken | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 267 Registered: 4-2003 |
Once again, just in case any potential 328 buyers are possibly still reading this thread, Todd's car is awesome! There. I've spoken too. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 6216 Registered: 8-2002 |
i have to agree with Driving Gloves over here, the bet is on the selling price of the car, not how much Todd goes home with; the selling price is the basis of the entire argument. Bet should be on the selling price of the car before commissions or whatever are divied up or slapped around or whatever. There. i have spoken. | ||
| DHutchison (Hutch308)
Member Username: Hutch308 Post Number: 425 Registered: 1-2002 |
KEN - We will go by the selling price of the vehicle. Period. End of story. Commissions (if any) will NOT be deducted from the selling price. The selling price obtained for the vehicle is what we are wagering on. NOT how it gets divided by any and all parties involved. It is that simple. Do you accept? | ||
| Ken Ross (Kdross)
Member Username: Kdross Post Number: 439 Registered: 2-2002 |
OK guys. I have gotten some hate mail, so I would like to clarify my last post. Todd�s car would have gotten a platinum if it were not for the stereo equipment. Considering that the two cars that won platinums were national winners, that says a lot about the quality of Todd�s car. With that said, most of the 328�s there had stereo equipment. When judging, we are required to deduct for any personalization of the car. This includes any and all stickers and shields (if not factory ordered), stereo amps, seat covers, and other modifications. Those are not my rules, but FCA rules. This has nothing to do with the quality of the car, but with judging the car as it left the factory. As to my comments about the price, perhaps I should not have commented or sent Todd a private email, but I fail to see how my comments are �inappropriate�, �rude�, or �unprofessional�. It was just my opinion based on the selling prices I have seen lately, and my price was only a few thousand less than his asking price. I may very well be wrong � who knows. We will soon find out once Todd sells the car. Further, the price I stated was if a fellow Fchat member purchased the car. If Todd places the car on consignment at a dealer, he may get $50K plus for the car, however, he will then have to pay a commission. Regardless, I like Todd and sincerely hope that he gets his full asking price. I was just stating my .02 and obviously it did not go over too well. No harm was intended guys. Hutch, I will accept your bet of One Hundred Dollars ($100.00), however, I want a copy of the check that the purchaser gives Todd as proof of the sales price and we deduct any commissions that are due if any. Ken | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 589 Registered: 4-2002 |
Todd, have you ever thought about puting your car on consignment at a F-dealer. they will probably be the best bet to get you top $ for your car. good luck. | ||
| DHutchison (Hutch308)
Member Username: Hutch308 Post Number: 424 Registered: 1-2002 |
Geiger - I will take you and Potula out for a nice dinner with the $100.00 KEN - IF YOU ARE SO CONFIDENT IN YOUR ASSESSMENT, THEN ACCEPT THE BET. | ||
| Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Member Username: Todd328gts Post Number: 559 Registered: 6-2002 |
Classic John...makes you wonder huh? I guess you feel the love too...LOL Reality is, three QUALIFIED Ferrari professionals that have been in the Ferrari business their entire life (a colleague at FNA, my Ferrari-only mechanic and the owner at a Ferrari dealer) all stated that I should expect to get $50K for the car...hence me asking $52K Cheers! TTG | ||
| john roberts (Jr328gtb)
Junior Member Username: Jr328gtb Post Number: 61 Registered: 5-2003 |
Note to self.... Never sell car on F-chat if it has been "judged" by Ken... | ||
| DHutchison (Hutch308)
Member Username: Hutch308 Post Number: 422 Registered: 1-2002 |
"Gambling is illegal at Bushwood and I never slice." Judge Smails (Caddyshack) Whuddya say there Ken??? Accept or Decline... | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 6161 Registered: 8-2002 |
LOL, Todd... i'll give you two bucks for the car- three if you drop it off at my house. Ken is right in one respect; anyone looking for an award-winning garage queen will not be interested in Todd's car... However, Augustine is right, as well... Anyone looking for sweet-ass Ferrari that also comes with a bangin' system, well... they'll be ringing Todd's phone... i also like Hutch's idea that the buyer of the car should be an automatic on your invite list everytime you're having a get-together at the Gin Mill... So Todd, what are you replacing it with...? Enquiring minds want to know... & post pictures... | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2804 Registered: 4-2002 |
GOOD JOB KEN...GEEZZZZZZZZ | ||
| DHutchison (Hutch308)
Member Username: Hutch308 Post Number: 421 Registered: 1-2002 |
KEN - I will make you a bet right now that Todd gets at least $49,500.00 or more for his 328 within the next 2 months. WAGER IS $100.00 U.S. DOLLARS ONE-HUNDRED DOLLARS IF NO SALE AFTER 2 MONTHS (DEADLINE NOV. 11,2003), THEN YOU WIN. IF IT SELLS FOR $49,499.00 OR LESS, THEN YOU WIN. OTHERWISE, I WIN!! POST UP IF YOU ACCCEPT THE BET!!!! - HUTCH | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 261 Registered: 4-2003 |
Ken, I understand that you are a judge and that originality is a key factor in judging, but I don't know if you are doing Todd any favors here. I think that T has taken a nice car, made it pristine, and then personalized it to his tastes. Although a few of these light mods may not be what a FCA judge would consider worthy additions to the car, another potential owner might find that they fit his or her personality perfectly. I like originality also, but after seeing Todd's car, I found it to be very tasteful. Just my two cents. | ||
| Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Member Username: Todd328gts Post Number: 556 Registered: 6-2002 |
Hey everybody...let all sing together in honor of our dear friend Ken Ross: For he's a jolly good fellow.... | ||
| Ken Ross (Kdross)
Member Username: Kdross Post Number: 437 Registered: 2-2002 |
I actually judged Todd's car last year at Garden State. A lot of the 328's had stereo equipment that we deducted points for. There were about 3 cars that were in the running for a platinum, and 2 that received platinums. Unfortunuately, neither one was Todd's car (stereo equipment killed him in points). The 328 class is usually a difficult class since one or two national winners show up. This has happened to me several times when I show my car. There is no way the average joe can compete against a 3K mile garage queen who trailers his car to the show. As to your price Todd, in this market you will be hard pressed to get much over $45K despite the excellent condition of your car. Your best bet is to sell it to a neighbor or friend who is not current with Ferrari prices. The stereo system actually hurts the value of the car. Best of luck in selling it and finding your new Ferrari. Ken | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 4324 Registered: 9-2001 |
Todd's car is sweet and he keeps it in fanstastic shape, he would have won a prize at the Garden state concours last year if the judges did not substract for the the killer stereo he added to the car. Any one looking for the 328 should check his out | ||
| DHutchison (Hutch308)
Member Username: Hutch308 Post Number: 418 Registered: 1-2002 |
Does the price include a lifetime membership to the Gin Mill? What will the replacement be? A 355 GTS or 355 Spyder?? I'll pass the word along... | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 4322 Registered: 9-2001 |
when is the 355 coming? | ||
| Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Member Username: Todd328gts Post Number: 553 Registered: 6-2002 |
Here are some of the details on my car: 1986 328 GTS Red/Tan 19,982 Miles Impeccable paint-Never driven in rain. Engine Compartment and Undercarriage meticulously detailed. Refinished wheels w/new Center Caps ($1000.00) Tires-Toyo/Proxes T1 Front 225/50 ZR16-($199 ea.) Rear 245/45 ZR16 ($245 ea.) New Titanium racing pedals and shift knob ($626.00) New Prancing horse floor mats ($400.00) New Eclypse CD Stereo System ($4000.00) New Clutch ($1700.00) New A/C Serviced ($300.00) K&N Air Filter ($45.00) ANSA Exhaust (2500.00) New Complete Brake Job ($1433.17) New Water Pump ($450.00) Belts Serviced 12/2000 All Receipts/Books/Tools/Original Brochure, etc... Confirmed by Ferrari North America (W/Letter of Proof): Vin # ZFFXA20A5G0062375 Production Date: February 3, 1986 Ship to USA Date: March 10, 1986 Call me if you need more details at 973.884.9161 Price: $52K Todd |