We all know the history. We all know the origin of the engine/body etc. We all know the endless debate. Bottom line, no waffling, straight up yes or no vote: IS THE 246GT(S) A FERRARI?* * No waffling! *** mods please leave in "Vintage", I'd like to get other than Dino-guy thoughts. Image Unavailable, Please Login
I go back and forth on this... but voted no tday. Enzo didn't badge it as a Ferrari. A Tudor watch is not a Rolex.
Tough one as this is a question of branding. The cars were built in Maranello and sold, by Ferrari dealers so the answer to me is yes. To counter the Tudor/ Rolex argument, if you buy an Emporio Armani jacket, do you say it is an Emporio Armani or an Armani one, bet not too many would say the former.
A rose by any other name DOES smell as sweet. The statute of limitations has expired and the prodigal may return.
If Enzo had badged it a Dino Ferrari your analogy would be accurate. Unfortunately he didn't and IMHO my Tudor / Rolex analogy is more accurate, again IMHO. Shouldn't matter though... it's a spectacular car.
Great points. To me I would love to have a cavallino staring back at me from the steering wheel center. When I was considering my 1st Ferrari, my wife asked "what about a Dino?" I love the car, but I wanted a Ferrari. Irrational? Perhaps... The badges mean something to me.
For me Dino is a great car with strong connection to Ferrari - but adding Ferrari badges or calling it a Ferrari is another story. You can add Ferrari badges to a Toyota if you wish - and even call your Toyota a Ferrari with the same result: not much. If that changes your attitude towards the car, you are a fool. For me a Dino deserves to be called by its real name. Best wishes, Kare
Couldn't the Dino badge be contrued as a Ferrari badge considering Dino was, after all, his son? Well wait, that doesn't work as the front engined Dino's would have to be considered as well........ Gosh I guess it's not technically a Ferrari. Why on Earth do club event and concours have them park in the Ferrari area then?
It depends on how you view Ferraris. If you believe that the last REAL Ferrari was the Daytona then no a Dino isn't a Ferrari. If you believe that everything built after the Daytona are Ferraris, then the answer is yes it is a Ferrari. Joe C.
Is a Buick the same as a Pontiac? Is an Audi also a Lamborghini? How about a Ford also being a Lincoln? The Dino is a seperate and distinct marque, certainly with strong connection to Ferrari SpA. BTW, the front engined "Dino", both Coupe and Spider was a Fiat Dino and is properly badged as a Fiat, even though final assembly (engine installation) was done at the Ferrari factory.
Didn't the Federal Government say the Dino was not a Ferrari? Dinos with a Federal VIN period begin with ZDF while Ferraris are ZFF.
The Federally mandated 17 digit vin codes where the country of origin was included in the vin did not begin until 1980.
These great cars should be celebrated in their own right. And by trying to attach the Ferrari badge -in conversation or in practice- takes away from the car. The story is much more interesting without the prancing horse and the car is wonderful enough to stand on its own. I think that if they could talk, they would say proudly they are a Dino. Price would probably be higher as well.
Of course Dinos are Ferraris, but IMO should never be badged as such. Enzo put Alfredo's engine into the car and gave it his nickname. This was not a business decision. The business decision would have been to put "Ferrari" all over it. Today, calling it by the given name and leaving those Dino badges is simply following in the wishes of a loving father immortalizing his son. Edit: Yes, I know that is the romantic view on things, but what is Ferrari without such romantic, emotional views?
Isn't there a specific model discussions section on this forum called 206/246? This never struck me as out of place, so yes, it's a Ferrari.
The bottom line remains that legally a car is what it's chassis plate says it is not what it's badges say it is.
When is anything Ferrari related that simple, and when did we start leaving such important matters to the DMV?