Giallo Fly 20-Y-191, need help with formulation

Hello Alberto.
My Dino GT is in the same color, good choice!
Depending on the light the yellow looks very different.
The paint was applied in 2K, which means clear coat after the paint.
I think there are two layers clear coat on the yellow which gives
the option to polish scratches out later sverall times.
I would do it again.
All the best
Nicolai

 

Alberto,
Credit to you and the artists in your family for picking the “old” Fly Yellow 20-Y-191! Not only does it look better - in my humble opinion - than the newer, more common fly yellow, but it is also more appropriate and correct for an L-series Dino.
I hope someone can help you with the exact formulation or a color chip, but it sounds like your supplier may have the right combination. There is a lot of orange/brown in that color, which can make it look egg yolk like in some light condition.
I am sure you have already looked at the photo in post #137 in OMGJon’s color thread – showing the car belonging to member Roberto0131, but take a look at it again. It shows how the light changes the tone of this color from the front to the back of the car.
More importantly, it shows just how beautiful an L-series Dino looks in that color!
Best of luck with your work!
Lars

 

Alberto,
This PPG Global Base coat clear coat formula from my local paint shop.
Best,
Jon
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Fchatter Napolis has just put that color on a FIAT Dino Spyder, he posted a picture of all the supplies in a pile for the project.

Maybe a PM to him could help you with your project???

I have it on my #22127 too, but no idea on the formula.

 

I bought a tin of touch up paint from here:

http://www.autopaintsbrighton.co.uk/ferrari-classic--vintage-car-paint-cellulose-codes--colours-719-p.asp

but have not tried it yet.

Mark

 

Here is a shot of Jerry Murray's beautiful 'L' at Cars and Coffee. I assume it is the early Fly Yellow???
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The name "giallo fly" is used for two different yellow colours:
1) The initial colour is "giallo fly" (20-Y-191)
which was used on Dinos till 1971.
2) In 1971 here was "nuovo giallo fly" (20-y-490)
available, you can see both colours on my Dino colours sample card.
My Dino (hood below) has the older giallo fly.

3) After 1972 the original "giallo fly" from 1) was no longer available
and Ferrari named the newer colour (2.) also "giallo fly".
The later yellow was also used on 308/328 etc..
Regards
Nico

 

My 71 Euro Dino was built (ie factory invoice) in March 1971. How do I find out which Giallo Fly is its original color?

It was repainted 3-4 years ago when it was in a well known private collection. How do I go about determining which Giallo Fly is its current color? FYI - I have no contact info for the owner when it was repainted.

 

For determining its current color I would buy, borrow, or create a sample of 20-Y-191 and/or 20-Y-490 then hold it up next to your car ... should be fairly obvibous once next to one another.

All the best,

 

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I actually have a small (liquid) sample that was made by the shop in Southern Calif that did work on the car (for very minor touchups), but I don't know which color that is or if they arrived at it by paint matching the car vs predefined formula (I think they paint matched the car from an inconspicuous chip taken from the car).

 

Before I painted mine I also got two metal sheets painted with each yellow.
The earlier yellow is for me much more beautifull.
It has a little green in it and makes this special colour change with different daylight.
The later yellow looks more "dirty" with a bown tone like sunflowers or DHL advertising.
After I saw both beside for me the choice was easy.
When my Dino was standing at Ferrari Meeting beside annother Dino
with the later yellow I always was happy about my decision

@HMB: Do you know that your Dino was yellow from factory?
If yes, the earlier yellow should be right.

 

Nicolai,

Are you sure about that. My understanding is that the earlier (older) Fly Yellow 20-Y-191, is the one that is slightly darker, more orange ..... and the newer one (20-Y-490) is the one more commonly seen and is a bit more green and lighter.

All the best,

Tom

 

to Ron: Your Dino was painted original Giallo Fly 20-Y-191
to all: Giallo Fly 20-Y-190 was painted on Dinos and Daytonas until 1973, Nuovo Giallo Fly 20-Y-490 appeared first on Dinos in May 1972.
regards Matthias

 

Thanks Matthias. As always, a wealth of good information! Now I need to determine if when Tony Wang had the car repainted in 2006 after a full soda blast if it was redone in the original Giallo Fly or the later version. Alberto will be sending me a freshly painted sample of each to compare against the car. Since the brightness is dramatically affected by lighting, I can't use a color printed sample (ie, from http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/9057/giallofly.jpg).

 

Hello Alberto, my Dino 246 Lseries, is Yellow fly 20y191 from factory certified by ferrari.I restored my car totally and I painted it with the some yellow that was originally in the car.This yellow is more orange. The formulation" Lechler paint" is Yellow lemon, White and Yellow orange. 010 639,2--011 439,9--026 9,8. Best regards, Roberto.

 

Have been following this thread with interest since I also will be painting my Dino Giallo Fly 20Y-191. Based on what I am reading it would seem that the final tone of the colour varies depending upon the formulation (Max Meyer formulation, Lechler formulation, etc.). Am I understanding this correctly or do the various formulations from different vendors all ultimately yield the same colour? I ask becaue I want to end up with a colour that is more on the 'lemon yellow' end of the spectrum rather than a muted 'egg yolk' colour which I have seen on several cars

Alberto, hope this is not a hijack of your thread but I thought the question relevant given the original post regarding formulation.

Kind Regards,
Paul

 

Hello Alberto ,I painted my car with the yellow fly more orange simply because this is the same colour of my Dino from factory.I have the original colour in the floor of my car ,is the same colour!!With the light of the sun is fantastic! Do you have the formulation of the yellow fly more lemon?