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Tony I am inclined to agree with your viewpoint. Sadly as the cars raise in value the real hands on enthusiasts get pushed away and with it goes their enthusiasm and sense of community.

Another issue lies in that some people have a hard time accepting the various approaches some people choose to apply to this hobby and take a rigid position that their way of looking at the world is best. As you know I recently finished a nutty concourse restoration. Not for a moment do I think I am better than the guy who goes a little out of his comfort zone to fix something themselves or the owner who maybe did something a little different to personalize their car. In the end it is their car and they can do with it as they wish so long as they are having fun and are respectful of the other opinions out there.

The only place where I do have pause is for when things are misrepresented. I have no problems challenging claims (that are often made by someone selling) on the quality or rarity of a particular item or vehicle. Too often I see items over-hyped and in the end it is someone with limited knowledge who gets fooled. I'm happy to share my knowledge to avoid this and hope to share in the wisdom of others in fields where I am less learned.

 

I've been rebuilding engines since 1964, and I am still learning. The only dumb question is the one you fail to ask
clay

 

Well said, Tony.

 

I sadly think we have become complacent in our duties as stewards for these great cars. I include myself in this and it seems we don't post with the enthusiasm we used to....

I think the best way to help solve this is for us "Older" F-Chat guys to help and support the "Newer" guys. The only way we can do this is the NEW guys start posting.

It will give us all something new to talk about and debate and kick around. I agree with keeping the tone positive for all of our benefits

 

Threads like the 930 Turbo Carrera Thread and Miura the Ultimate Supercar Threads are very informative. I think Joe does it best. I'd love to see similar threads for the Dino, 308, BBs, etc.

 

I agree. those would be really great threads to have but keep in mind, joe has spent considerable time on the threads he has started. it would be nice if joe had the band width to start some more

 

Of course. Perhaps the collective efforts of those who are experts of each variant can contribute to that particular thread.

 

Is this the thread you're referring to?

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/lamborghinichat-com-sponsored-lamborghini-houston/131246-miura-original-supercar.html

 

Rob has it right, as values go up, different folks buy these cars and more work goes out to a shop.
One of the benefits of increasing values are the cars are better maintained and professionally restored, so how many folks are still truly DIY?
Why would someone post a 'problem' with their car that might impact the future value of their investment aside from the unhelpful posts already mentioned... Just food for thought.

A newbie thread is a great idea but don't call it that.

Also, the interest has shifted more to values and market predictions. Easy stuff that everyone has an opinion on, like the weather.
The vintage section moved all this to a subforum which allows more focus on actual cars and issues, does this section have enough posts so a Dino market subforum makes sense?
Andrew

 

I can only give you my point of view however about 3 years ago I announced in this section that I wanted to buy a DINO GT and the very generous help I received from several members of this site was instrumental in me finding and buying a car. . several members told me about cars they knew of and one very well known member put me in touch with the perfect car for me(with no financial gain for him) and then assisted in contacting other members to help verify the car and to do a PPI .. Then another prominent member handled the PPI and the transaction for me the car I bought sight unseen was everything I was told and the help has always been very much appreciated .. I still have the car and will keep it for the foreseeable future...
Now I did get one or two negative posts but that really did not matter it is the internet an op just has to ignore those...
Without this section of Ferrarichat I am sure I would have missed my chance to get a DINO as I luckily bought the car just before they doubled in value....again listening to advice from a fchat member....
so just help people when you can and others will appreciate it...

 

I must say, Tony’s original concerns are valid. I found this chat room after I bought my GTS. After reading threads for a month or two, I commented to some car friends that I didn’t think I would ever post a picture of my car. Time after time when I saw people do that, the car was picked apart – not in a helpful way… I even found myself doing it after a while. Maybe it's a way of showing how much we know, but it comes off rather belittling.

I work on my own car and my goal isn’t going to a concours or having a trailer queen. I’m proud of how the car looks, but it will always be a driver, including the 16 inch wheels and modern rubber – my apologies to the purists here.

The people who contribute here are first rate. I’ve learned so much and been able to address many more issues because of many of you. The pictorials of the work being done are wonderful. I’ve learned so much and even scored some parts – original and reproduction...

I’m not sure there needs to be a new set of “strict rules”, but perhaps this conversation will restore some civility.

 

I agree with Tony; this is not a friendly site - a heady mix of men, money, egos and cars!

 

When I bought my Dino in 2001, it was still commonly called the "Girls Ferrari"...

Where have they all gone? This section would be AWESOME with lots of female commentary!

Shawn

 

Who is Nickrry?

 

English male.
so this begs the question; are there any female members? I suspect they are all to busy doing something more useful!
Nick

 

Here's one... and indeed, I love my 246 for being nimble in spirit, forgiving by nature, and gorgeous in looks; I would say it's the ideal girl's four-wheeled-companion, for those girls that like driving and playing with sportscars anyway!

 

As a relatively new user the site has been invaluable and I wouldn't have been able to restore my Dino without the help of a few core members, especially Tonyl and isuk who I hope to meet at some point! I do understand the frustration from both sides when a subject matter gets covered over and over again but that is inevitable with this type of forum.