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Leaking header tank

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  1. need4speed

    need4speed Formula 3

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    Can the header tank be repaired? Or it has to be replaced?

    Thanks for any advice,

    Manny
     
  2. racerboy9

    racerboy9 F1 Rookie
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    If one of the brass tanks it can be re-soldered. If one of the steel tanks you may be able to plug the leak temporarily but I think over time it is a losing battle. The brass ones are available new.
     
  3. Pantdino

    Pantdino Formula 3

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    I had a microscopic leak at the base of the neck of my brass tank that was soldered. The first two times the guy was skimpy with the solder and the repair only lasted a year or so, but this time he was more generous and I think it should be fine. $120 I think at a radiator shop.
     
  4. jnk

    jnk Formula Junior

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    I had the same problem at the base of the neck of the tank. I would replace it. Remember the tank is under significant pressure. Why risk engine damage . A new tank is inexpensive, easy to install, and will last 20 years.
     
  5. calder1

    calder1 F1 Rookie
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    Manny,

    If it's not to bad we can repair it.

    Craig
     
  6. Pantdino

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    If the tank develops a significant leak you will smell it and have time to pull over before anything could happen to the engine.

    I haven't seen the replacement tanks, but I have encountered a lot of poorly-made replacement parts for other cars that should be avoided.
     
  7. racerboy9

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    The best replacements are the re-issued ones from FIM in brass. I think they look just like the originals with the stampings and everything. They were soldered together to begin with so I can't see why they couldn't be re-soldered if done properly.
     
  8. jnk

    jnk Formula Junior

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    I bought my replacement tank from Geoff Ohland. It is NOS identical.
     
  9. ENZOSON

    ENZOSON Formula Junior
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    Manny - had mine repaired. Clean break at the seam. Take it to a radiator shop... dont tell them what car it is for...

    Cheers

    Pietro
     
  10. UroTrash

    UroTrash Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I had mine soldered last fall, no problem
     
  11. synchro

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    +1 on doing it. I too had my header tank neck repaired and drain stem replaced.


    Last I checked these tanks were pushing $500 for OEM delivered to US destinations so I respectfully disagree on them being inexpensive.

    Header Tank 246 Original #104523 24610165 £316.00
    Cooling System Parts for Ferrari 206 & 246 - Superformance

    Header tank Original FIM FPN 104523 Product ID: 14-6/Fim 489,00 EUR
    Ferrari 246 GT/GTS: Cooling Systems: Header Tank & More: Header tank Original FIM
     
  12. jnk

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    My point is that this part typically lasts 40 years. $500.00 for 40 years worth of reliability is pretty good. Remember most of us are buying tires ( XWX ) for $350.00 per tire, and the life of that tire is not even close to 40 years. I have had leaking header tanks in a number of cars. It is a mess not only in the engine bay but also the garage floor ect...
    Remember when the cars are warmed up or you are in traffic and the car is getting hot the pressures can be quite high in the cooling system.
    In an era when car enthusiasts and owners are paying significant prices for tools that will never be used and put away until the one or two shows that they see the light of day, a new header tank is inexpensive.
    My 2 cents
     
  13. dgt

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    Early cars (206/L at least) were definitely in brass, I didn't know the later replacements were also brass (have a few so will take a look... Would be nice!).
     
  14. Pantdino

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    If the coolant is changed frequently there is no reason the tank should corrode at all.

    If you bought a car with the tank corroded thru or something, that would be different.
     
  15. jnk

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    it is very common for there to be corrosion at the base of the neck of the tank. Even cars that are well maintained can suffer fro this.
     
  16. need4speed

    need4speed Formula 3

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    Thanks to everyone for the responses. I've been driving my car daily and one day when I started the car in the morining, white vapors were rising from the engine compartment. I noticed a leak had been dripping onto my exhaust. I've been keeping an eye on the level of the header tank and it doesn't change. So it's a very slow leak.

    Craig, when I get some time, I'll contact you.

    Thanks again everyone
     

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