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  1. F40-R

    F40-R Formula 3

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    Any help would be greatly appreciated, my Dino 246 E Series was ordered with an "All leather Interior" option from the factory.

    What would be in leather and vinyl out of these items?

    Centre console tunnel:
    Upper Door trim:
    Lower Door trim:
    Inner door sills:
    Rear parcel tray upper:
    Rear firewall:
    Seats: Full leather

    Thank you in advance...!
     
  2. Carbonio

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    Centre console tunnel: Leather
    Upper Door trim: Dino vinyl
    Lower Door trim: Leather (I'm assuming the full door card here)
    Inner door sills: Leather
    Rear parcel tray upper: Dino Vinyl
    Rear firewall: Leather
    Seats: Full leather
     
  3. F40-R

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    Thank you Carbonio, I've enjoyed your products for the last 8 years! The inner door sills some people are telling me they're all vinyl on every Dino no matter what options it has?
     
  4. Carbonio

    Carbonio Formula 3

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    Great to hear you are a loyal customer :)

    As for the inner door sills I will leave it to the membership to really confirm this however in our exhaustive research when restoring our Dino we found original sills with assembly numbers written on the inside of them that matched the car that were made of leather. Please note that the trim pieces like the roof trims, b-pillar trims, etc all all done in Dino vinyl but the sills are leather. Also when upholstering the sills it is important to bond a thin layer of foam to the steel sill below but to not bond the leather to the foam. The bond is only done on the outer and inner edges but the leather 'rests' on the foam in the middle. This results in just the right look and no lumps.

    Please note that all of this data I have is for GT cars. I am not certain how the bigger GTS sills were finished.
     
  5. F40-R

    F40-R Formula 3

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    Thanks heaps... This has really helped me :)
     
  6. F40-R

    F40-R Formula 3

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    Would white stitching on the steering wheel and door cards be factory?
     
  7. GermanDino

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    centre console tunnel: likely to be original in black vinyl 161
    (only very few centre console tunnel in leather with E-series Dinos original)
    same goes for inner door sills: black vinyl 161

    leather only lower door trim, rear firewall and seats

    most E-series have been different to L-series and M-series
     
  8. GermanDino

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    steering wheel yes..
    door cards apparently a kind of black that fades over years to a grey/white tone according to Henk van Lith (I´m not 100% sure about that...)
     
  9. isuk

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    #9 isuk, May 19, 2016
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    Henk is correct about the thread used on the door cards fading over time Matthias. It also affected the stitched headrests in my experience. These photo's show the original headrest and door card from my car #04054 and highlight the faded thread. The original invoice for my car shows "All leather interior" and the areas covered in leather were only the seats and main door cards, everything else was finished in vinyl. It was a May '72 build.
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  10. Edward 96GTS

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    what color thread was used with tan 3218 leather?
     
  11. 2GT

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    I have that color as well, and I don't believe I have white thread. Fred
     
  12. GermanDino

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    your rear fire wall was vinyl... not leather? I have never seen that before, even not on E-series.... ?!
     
  13. isuk

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    It was the black thread that faded AFAIK.
     
  14. isuk

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    Yes, it was vinyl from the factory. I only had to recover the seats and door cards in new leather sadly due to the lack of care by the car's second owner. All the vinyl areas in the car are original.
     
  15. GermanDino

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    that is probably unique to your car... :)
    sounds to me one of the Luppi brothers made a mistake on a Monday morning....
     
  16. F40-R

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    My firewall looks to be all in vinyl too? It's so confusing?
     
  17. racerboy9

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    1974 07924 E USA series with vinyl too.
     
  18. GermanDino

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    really interesting....

    I know of one E-series Dino where only the seats have been in leather, all the rest in vinyl...

    but seats and door cards only in leather is new to me, that seem to be rare too...

    but as always everything is possible with Ferrari :)

    the majority of "full leather interior" E-series Dinos had the rear fire wall, seats and door cards in leather
     
  19. isuk

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    I've seen #07112 - a September '73 UK GTS model - that still has it's original interior and also has a vinyl rear wall with leather seats and door cards.
     

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