his car is for sale, last I heard the price was 600,000. The best maintained car in the world, imo. If you are interested, PM me and I will get you in touch with him.
Roland's car has a very detailed history as he was so visible with the car including being the poster boy for Mother's Wax Products. It looks like an LM but there are some real question marks regarding the car, its rebuild and exactly what went into it. It is most certainly not an LM as Michelotto built them but a reasonable attempt at replicating that. The car was, AFAIK, involved in a fire and the decision to rebuild it as an LM came after the fire. Whatever it is, it is a spectacular piece of machinery but it is not a Ferrari approved LM. There are several threads in FChat discussing not only the car but Roland as well. Fascinating reading if you have the time.
OK, here we go.....everyone fasten their seat belts, we're in for a bumpy ride...... Here is the listing: http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/ferrari/1177627657/1177627657ss.htm Here is the thread I started in April... http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148540
Do you really think so, I mean if you take a stock F40 for 400/450k and convert it to LM spec I would think you would spend more than 600k total. Those parts + labor gets real expensive in a hurry.
This car is a bit of bastard with some serious questions as to its provenance. I think that has real impact on its value
Last year at concorso the car was being offered at 500k, its 100k more now; but of course its still for sale, so you may be right about that.
+1. On one hand the car is essentially a resurrected wreck from a stock burned F40. On the other hand Roland definitely put alot of time, effort, and money into rebuilding this car into a LM (or almost a LM) replica. The car is essentially a salvage F40 by anyone's description. If it had been rebuilt back to a stock F40 with its history it might have been worth $250,000 to $300,000 in this market (nice cars being $450,000+). Since it was built to LM specs it is arguably worth more ... perhaps as much as $400,000. However, I don't think a case could be made for it to be worth $600,000 with its history regardless of how much money was invested in it.
Frankly, I don't have a clue what this car is worth. However, I do have some experience with following it out to the track during the French Quarter Classic. Small animals, birds and young children should exercise caution due to the down draft suction. Even the Maranello was exhibiting a strange attraction. Another story is that one year Roland got separated on the drive back to the hotel. He got stopped by a trooper who wasn't part of the escort service for allegedly doing 130. (I suspect that it was faster than that.) After checking with his buddies, the trooper came back and told Roland to hurry up. Again, I'm not in the market for an F40 and am completely ignorant about prices. But I do know that this is one hellva a car. Dale
In FORZA it states the car has a clear title and been fully restored with bigger turbos and has a nice story to go with it. We know where the car came from and what it been threw. I say its at least worth top going rate for a street version f40 it is a personnal mod ferrari. But again I'm out of my league in this trend.
Plus, it carries the cache' of having been featured at the Cavallino Classic. Some cars never get to be there either!
how too value something that is one of one? but the price to have restored the burned car to original specs would have been very costly. By doing the "LM" style car he could take a lot more liberty with the car. That being said the car looks to be wicked fast in his capable hands. It's been driven long & hard but seems to have had plenty of care. It would be an adventure to drive and service.
It is worth noting that F40 prices and LMs in particular have increased alot since this car has been on the market. I'd be happy to take a modified F40 over a regular F40 in line with what some owners here have done, but personally I think this car is too much of a bitsa. The interior in particular doesn't share much with either a street F40 or an LM. Who knows what its really worth, however a real LM is probably a 7 figure car now. The only car available right now is 74045 which has a 1.5m ask (hasn't sold mind you). Another LM sold recently at DK and the ask for that was 1.3M, don't know what the deal was done at though.
replica cars have always been a source of discussion and disagreement. Yet there have been buyers for them throught the years. I remember in the late eightees, replica 250 GTO's were going for up to a million dollars; but of course the real thing was selling for more than 10 millions. I have seen Roland's car on several occasions, and we actually have parked our cars side by side...the interior is not an F-40 interior, but i have not seen an LM interior so I do not know how much is replicated there. It definitely is not a street car though Roland does drive it on trips of 100 miles and more. It is quite an attraction everywhere it is exhibited, and Roland has a room full of people's choice awards for his car. One day, someone who wants a real fast track car and can afford a toy for the joy of driving it, rather than for its value as in investment will make Roland an offer he can't refuse. In the meantime, I dont think we can speculate about the price. A year aog, we would have laughed at 500,000 being a fair price for a street F-40. A year from now, we may be laughing again, but that seems to be their value right now. As for Roland himself, I know him and his wife quite well; I will speak for him and say he is quite a gentleman, a very helpful friend and one of the nicest human beings I have ever met. I dont think he has ever intentionally misled anyone about himself or his car. Actually, many articles and threads have been published, probably more than any other ferrari recreation that I know of. It is not the nature of the man to mislead. He is a genuine human being and i feel lucky to have met him and to call him friend.
This car is not built to LM specs, not one inch of it. It was not built with LM blueprints, nor are there ANY LM parts on this car. It is a rebuild of a burned F40. Yes it was inspired by an LM, but its not even an accurate replica of an LM since it strays so far away from a true LM. The myth of this car is simply that, a myth. The truth is that it is the result of Roland's passion for an LM, but budget constraints did not allow him to be authentic in its rebuild. It is an interesting car, it shows alot of passion but it also reflects the car being built on a budget. The market for this car is $200,000 to $225,000. It would simply take too much money to take the car back to stock and it would take even more to truly have it built to LM specs as it has been represented.
If the car was built to LM specs, you would be correct, this car is not built to LM, nor does it contain any LM parts. I have always said this car would be worth more if it had not been represented as a "LM"....
It is not an LM, yet an attempt was made to try and replicate an LM possibly; it is however definitely a one of a kind car...and when you come near it, it has a character of its own and does impress. I have never driven it, but one day I may be tempted to. Probably the most discussed modern "Ferrari" of them all....
I totally agree, Roland's F40 is a driving machine....He has probably placed more trouble free miles on his F40 than most of us put on our Ferraris combined. The car sounds great and from what I understand it is has been wonderfully dependable. All I would do is to strip it of the decals and lettering, ditch the tiny steering wheel...Make it look more like an LM and drive the ****e out of it. I started this discussion simply to see if the car was still available, as I would like to have another F40 as a frequent driver, allowing me to avoid excess mileage accumulation on mine. I do agree that 600K is too much for the car, but I would pay 400K in a skinny minute. Happy New Year to all! Joe PS. I took some snow pics this morning & will post those in the "Ferraris in the snow" string later.
