So what would you say is the premium of a US spec F40 vs a Euro??
Not that I'm biased, but my Euro is lighter and faster. So if performance means anything, Euro should carry a premium!
I believe that Euro F40s are lighter and faster, but US F40s are rarer and mostly lower mileage so that's why they might be more expensive... But overall, same condition and KM, I believe Euro F40 > US F40... I also like the look of Euro F40 much better !! Those small bumpers are nasty, in my opinion...
There are 4x to 5x more euro cars than US cars so that explains the cheaper price. Also euros usually have more miles. But euros look better, sound better and are lighter. Id buy one over a us car and over a 599 gto!
I wouldn't think there is much of a premium. They're both the same car, and a Euro F40 is better than no F40
Funny - I actually prefer the US F40 over the Euro. I think the added elements make the car look more aggressive.
That front splitter does give it the LM look. The Tipo USA F40 is 6 times as rare as a Eu/ROW car, it has a reinforced chassis front & rear, it has twin-skinned aluminum gas tanks that will never leak or need changing for its lifetime, etc. so there are some tangible benefits with owning a USA F40. That said, they are both very cool, buy what you like, or better still, have both. If anyone wants a real data comparison between a USA F40 and the Eu/ROW F40, here it is: 1. USA production spanned from early 1990 to late 1992 (European production started late 1987). 2. USA F40s weigh in at 2878 lbs dry. Actual USA F40s weighed by FNA with all fluids and half-a-tank of gas weighed in at 2969 lbs (European cars are stated at 2717 lbs dry). 3. USA F40s have aluminum gas tanks with twin fuel pumps mounted within the tanks (European cars have rubber fuel cells which require replacement each 7 years with externally located fuel pumps ). 4. USA F40s have twist-off gas caps (European cars have the locking items). 5. USA F40s were all supplied with the variable ride height system deleted (some European cars were thus supplied). 6. USA F40s have 2-peice seats with reclining backs and a passive restraint system (European cars have single-peice seats with 3-point seat belts). 7. USA F40s have their tow-hook attachment mounted directly into the chassis (European cars attach to the front body). 8. USA F40s have a final drive ratio of 10-29 (European cars are rated at 11-30). 9. USA F40s acheive maximum torque of 58.8 kgm/427 ft lbs at 4300 rpm (European cars acheive this same torque at 4000 rpm). 10. USA F40s are rated "at or above 500 bhp" @ 7000 rpm (European cars are rated at 478 bhp at same rpm). 11. USA F40s were the first car to utilize metallic (titanium) based catalysts to allow faster warm up and greater resilience. 12. USA F40s have a 'secondary air injection' for emissions that can be heard at each start up. 13. USA F40s had to pass DOT front, rear & side impact tests. These include the 2.5 mph front and rear tests. Accordingly the bodywork is strengthened. 14. USA F40s have a drag co-efficient of 0.34CX including the rear wing (European F40s are rated the same). With respect to the gear ratios, please note the following: First gear - 1:10.707 (USA), 1:10.069 (Euro) Second gear - 1:6.628 (USA), 1:6.262 (Euro) Third gear - 1:4.745 (USA), 1:4.463 (Euro) Fourth gear - 1:3.724 (USA), 1:3.501 (Euro) Fifth gear - 1:2.965 (USA), 1:2.787 (Euro)
The real point is that Americans have a preference for US spec cars while Europeans wouldn't touch them
No. when the US first imposed catalytic converters the adjonction of this caused havoc with power output and at the same time the large, heavy and shock absorbing bumpers as well as side impact stress members made the cars heavier. Even today, the power output measured in the US is on a SAE basis - just the engine without alternator etc while euro spec output includes the accessories- so there is still a difference even if it is minimal thanks to technological advancements. So a 308 GTSi in the USA put out a measly 214 Bhp and was slower than ... With the F40 the differences are legion - hence the discussions. But the purest F40s are the early ones with no concessions!!!
Not just a preference, but, in most instances its necessary to have a USA spec car to road-register and legally drive it. That said, Eu/ROW cars are appreciated by Americans also as their purity of spec is understood.
not the only, but for sure there's more differences between F40s EU and US than F50 or Enzo. F50s (and enzo too) US and Eu have so similar weight and performances
You can really tell the difference in the two in weight of the rear deck lid. I have a euro and I can easily pick it up and hold the lid up while putting the support bar in. It takes two strong guys to lift up the USA version...It has to be an additional 50-70 lbs.
Europe aligned its self more to US specs in the early 90s with regards emissions ( cats/carbon canisters etc) and safety standards (intrusion bars, energy absorbing structures) so the differences between specs has become lesser since then as a result.
Unusual given that neither has any effect at all on the rigidity of the actual car, they are simply pinned to the chassis by flimsy hinge arrangements. Maybe just down to better build quality as their construction started quite late into the F40s build cycle and well after the initial planned limited run?
The heavier clams that is not the extra metalwork which of course was pure US spec, keep missing the edit deadlines on here to be able to update my original posts!