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Old 07-06-2007, 10:27 PM
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Smile USA FERRARI F40

The word Ive received is that the development of the USA specification Ferrari F40 Series set the factory back approximately $12 million and resulted in a car unique in specification for the United States showing Ferrari SpA's comittment to its major marketplace. Double-skinned aluminum fuel tanks aside, a plethora of modifications from the European cars were bestowed upon the USA car and although 213 is the official import number, more exist notwithstanding prototypes and sacrificed units.

I am trying to document the the story of the USA version's actual development & production, and its complete spec. The reason is there has been some confusion and speculation in this area. More on that to follow and meanwhile lets celebrate Enzo Ferrari's Swan Song...

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Old 07-06-2007, 11:02 PM
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Thanks Joe, great post, was that your previous car?
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:08 PM
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What are those plastic bits around the front and the back bumper?
It looks so much better without them on the Euro version F40
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:11 PM
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Thanks Joe, great post, was that your previous car?
Current.

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Old 07-06-2007, 11:14 PM
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What are those plastic bits around the front and the back bumper?
It looks so much better without them on the Euro version F40
They distinguish the USA cars and I actually think the nose of the USA car has a darker, angrier and thus more agressive disposition because of the black trim.
BTW, the trim was actually styled by Fioravanti to meet the laughable USA-mandated bumper requirements. I like it better than the Euro cars which seem a bit 'naked' without them but maybe its because living in the USA Ive had a staple diet of USA cars!

I am talking to at least one person who was actually a participant for Ferrari's development of the USA F40 and already some interesting information has been disclosed. Stay tuned.

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Old 07-06-2007, 11:26 PM
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Aggressive.

This view of the USA F40 is one that strikes fear in the hearts of motorists when seen in their rear view mirrors.

Flashing the driving lamps will cause the car ahead to move over quicker than than the sight of any other fast-approaching sports car.... with a 'Whoosh', a lick of flames and a crackle, the F40 flashing past and dissapearing ahead keeps the encounter breif but not forgotten for a long time.

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Joe, is this your second one? When did you pick this one up?
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Joe, is this your second one? When did you pick this one up?
Second one. Recently.

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Old 07-07-2007, 12:34 AM
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looks beautiful Joe, congrats.

Menacing is the word that comes to mind when viewing the F40 coming up in the rear view mirror.....
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looks beautiful Joe, congrats.

Menacing is the word that comes to mind when viewing the F40 coming up in the rear view mirror.....
Thanks Jas. I have some great images of your car Im sure youve never seen (from Cavallino, Kentucky registered "F40"). I will post them soon.

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Old 07-07-2007, 12:28 PM
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Joe the guy who worked for FNA who drove almost all the new USA market F40 models when they were delivered to NJ might have some interesting info. I think he was trying to sell a yellow F40 at one time. I don't have his name handy here. One F40 was sold in Europe but was delivered as USA spec. What does your guy say about the F40 'ecological' model?
As with all your cars the F40 is beautifully presented. Nice shots!
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ok the upper black plastic bit is a supposed bumper, but whats with the bigger bit of plastic at bottom of the front ?

its a bit of a paradox this fascination with USA spec cars isnt it joe
dont you find it clashes with with your love of "as the factory intended"
as all the mods done (on various cars) for the USA seem to involve changes to the purity of design etc.

gr8 pics btw - as always

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Joe the guy who worked for FNA who drove almost all the new USA market F40 models when they were delivered to NJ might have some interesting info. I think he was trying to sell a yellow F40 at one time. I don't have his name handy here. One F40 was sold in Europe but was delivered as USA spec. What does your guy say about the F40 'ecological' model?
As with all your cars the F40 is beautifully presented. Nice shots!
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Actually, several USA F40s were never even delivered to the USA and they are over and above the 213 that were. Several more were also 'sacrificed' to testing and crash testing.

In 1988 Ferrari SpA gave FNA 2 F40s to develop as a USA series car. They ran into lots of issues and ended up sending the development operation back to the factory for continued development which the USA rep tells me is the way it should have been done in the first place. Im speaking to him about the eco car and should have complete info later.

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ok the upper black plastic bit is a supposed bumper, but whats with the bigger bit of plastic at bottom of the front ?

its a bit of a paradox this fascination with USA spec cars isnt it joe
dont you find it clashes with with your love of "as the factory intended"
as all the mods done (on various cars) for the USA seem to involve changes to the purity of design etc.

gr8 pics btw - as always
In wind tunnel testing Ferrari SpA found that the upper bumper strip needed to be counterbalanced with a lower ground-effects spoiler.

I love USA Series cars for 2 reasons:
1. I live in the USA.
2. They tend to be limited-series cars that the factory has invested a lot of time and effort (not to mention engineering) in producing to high safety standards.
Generally speaking these cars remain as built by the factory and are thus as the factory intended.

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In wind tunnel testing Ferrari SpA found that the upper bumper strip needed to be counterbalanced with a lower ground-effects spoiler.
you learn something new everyday

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2. They tend to be limited-series cars that the factory has invested a lot of time and effort (not to mention engineering) in producing to high safety standards.
Generally speaking these cars remain as built by the factory and are thus as the factory intended.
im not so sure joe.
these are modifications forced upon the factory by one countries government legislation and as such arent really as the factory wanted them to be

but thats semantics maybe.

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whether i agree with your conclusions or not (and i usually do) i always find your posts informative, interesting and most of all passionate.
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Actually, several USA F40s were never even delivered to the USA and they are over and above the 213 that were. Several more were also 'sacrificed' to testing and crash testing.

In 1988 Ferrari SpA gave FNA 2 F40s to develop as a USA series car. They ran into lots of issues and ended up sending the development operation back to the factory for continued development which the USA rep tells me is the way it should have been done in the first place. Im speaking to him about the eco car and should have complete info later.

Thanks for the compliments.

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Joe you seem to have a knack for digging up lost 'car history' for various brands. Good luck at the 'dig'.
I remembered the USA spec F40 sold in Europe was a 1991 model that eventually made it's way to the USA. Like many F40 models it is tucked away today in a nice collection. Looking forward to the next chapter!
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im not so sure joe.
these are modifications forced upon the factory by one countries government legislation and as such arent really as the factory wanted them to be

but thats semantics maybe.



whether i agree with your conclusions or not (and i usually do) i always find your posts informative, interesting and most of all passionate.
Dear Comrade Chaos,

Yes, I wholeheartedly agree that Joe's post's are all that you say they are - and more!

However, the UK F-40 does have the proper racing car fuel tanks and not the aluminum American variants. However, the UK and Euro versions require their tanks to be changed every ten years, the cost of which is by no means insubstantial - approaching eighteen thousand dollars. My preference of course would be for the American tanks that seemingly have an indefinite life.

I prefer the frontal look of my UK car but I suspect that is only through reasons of familiarity and I had no idea whatsoever there was a difference in the aesthetics until Joe placed the images of his Wonder Car for us all to admire and covet. If I knew how to post images of my own car I would gladly do so, but regretfully my skills are insufficient to do so.

With kind regards,

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im not so sure joe.
these are modifications forced upon the factory by one countries government legislation and as such arent really as the factory wanted them to be

but thats semantics maybe.



whether i agree with your conclusions or not (and i usually do) i always find your posts informative, interesting and most of all passionate.
Dear Comrade Chaos,

Yes, I wholeheartedly agree that Joe's post's are all that you say they are - and more!

However, the UK F-40 does have the proper racing car fuel tanks and not the aluminum American variants. However, the UK and Euro versions require their tanks to be changed every ten years, the cost of which is by no means insubstantial - approaching eighteen thousand dollars. My preference of course would be for the American tanks that seemingly have an indefinite life.

I prefer the front of my UK car but I suspect that is only through reasons of familiarity and had no idea whatsoever there was a difference in the aesthetics until Joe placed the images of his Wonder Car for us all to admire and covet. If I knew how to post images of my own car I would gladly do so, but regretfully my skills are insufficient to do so.

With kind regards,

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If I knew how to post images of my own car I would gladly do so, but regretfully my skills are insufficient to do so.

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512 Tea Are[/QUOTE]

Send them to Joe, He'll post them for you. I have the same malidy. Other's have posted my Ferrari pics. He's posted my ex-Countach in the past.

Send him a front shot so we may compare, hell, with you in the pic as well...
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Old 07-08-2007, 03:04 PM
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im not so sure joe.
these are modifications forced upon the factory by one countries government legislation and as such arent really as the factory wanted them to be

but thats semantics maybe.



whether i agree with your conclusions or not (and i usually do) i always find your posts informative, interesting and most of all passionate.
Your unending passion is very much appreciated.

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