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Old 05-17-2006, 10:34 AM
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Do NOT buy Birdman's 308 Fuseblocks!

[Unless you want your electrical system to function 150% better! ]

I installed mine last night....took an hour - *maybe* - and I was being careful and taking my time so as not to mix up the wires. I had my new fuses ready to go, a bottle of water on hand since the garage was kinda toasty, and my iPod hooked into some little speakers on the garage shelf. First, I did the left...numbered all the wires top & bottom, just like his website suggests, and then removed the old block. I screwed the new one in, installed new fuses, and conneceted new wires. Followed the same procedure for the right side bank, and when all was buttoned up, I turned the key (not all the way on, but just so that the electrical system was working).

All I can say is WOW!!! My dash lights were brighter, the windows went up and down faster, and since my radiator fans are hard-wired to be on all the time, I heard them as well - even my fans were spinning faster!!!

"This is incredible," I thought. "How can one little product make such an immediate, noticeable difference?!"

Although I haven't had an opportunity to go for a drive yet, what I saw in the garage last night was enough for me to be convinced that these are an item that EVERY 308 on FChat *must have.* It's just silly not to.....

My sincerest thanks to the Birdman for making these available to the Ferrari community at large. Even in "specialty" car markets (i.e., Ferrari, Porsche, Corvette) the older cars are often overlooked by the aftermarket community as being "not worth their time." It's so great to know that there are people out there continuing to make new, improved products for our cars.

THANK YOU!

Aaron

PS - Sorry about the title, Birdman...just couldn't resist. If someone finds this thread via a search in the future, though, they'll surely click on it and be met with yet another glowing review of your fuseblocks.
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Old 05-17-2006, 10:38 AM
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you def had me going with the title....

I'll have to get one, what's the web site?
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Thanks - should've included that in the original post.
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Old 05-17-2006, 11:18 AM
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it's a shame this doesn't work on the mondials. we do have fuse blocks buts thats only half the problem. the funky circut board is another.

but in any case i can't say directly how good this upgrade is but looking at it it sure seems to address the issues and you can't go wrong there. cheap to!
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Old 05-17-2006, 11:27 AM
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My heart almost stopped.... when I read the title.
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Old 05-17-2006, 11:30 AM
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I saw Birdman's page recently and his fuse blocks. That is going to be the first upgrade I will be considering after a 308 purchase. Is the install pretty straightforward?
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Old 05-17-2006, 11:39 AM
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Is the install pretty straightforward?
Yep, disconnect the battery, just take the wires off the old one after labeling them as far as the order goes, unscrew the old fuse blocks, screw in the new one, and put the wires on.

Since I'm a bit lazy and didn't want to label everything, I did it a little differently. I moved the wires one-by-one to the new fuseblocks, then unscrewed the old ones and screwed in the new ones. It's a little more crowded until you get the old ones out of the way, but saves the labeling step and potential mix-ups.
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Old 05-17-2006, 11:49 AM
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Since I'm a bit lazy and didn't want to label everything, I did it a little differently. I moved the wires one-by-one to the new fuseblocks, then unscrewed the old ones and screwed in the new ones. It's a little more crowded until you get the old ones out of the way, but saves the labeling step and potential mix-ups.
that's the procedure I was considering....
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Old 05-17-2006, 01:26 PM
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Cool Having heart failure....

Sheesh, I was thinking "Oh Sh**, what did I do to screw up Aaron's fuseblocks?" Got my attention!

Thought I blew up your car or something!

I'm glad you are happy with them. The real benefits are the ones you will never really realize. Like when the thing still works in a couple years and you don't have to clean all the contacts to get it through another couple of months. Like when the fuel pump DOESN'T stop and leave you on the side of the road because a fuseblock melted. Or your engine DOESN'T overheat because the fans stopped coming on in rush hour traffic. You get the idea. These are all things that happen ALL THE TIME with the crappy OEM fuseblocks.

I'm getting ready to order another bunch of the aluminum backplates from Fchatter Chris Marsh, who has an amazing machine shop and did the fantastic run of the nice anodized backplates that I'm currently using. I'm trying to order far enough in advance that I don't run out. My stock is getting low and Fchatters can get really bummed out when they need fuseblocks FAST because the car is dead! (You should see some of the e-mails. "PLEASE Birdman, I gotta have them fast, my baby is stone dead!")

Thanks again for the compliments. I'm truly thrilled this is helping out the 308 crowd. Gotta keep our babies running well.

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Old 05-17-2006, 02:04 PM
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Smile What is this, April Fools??

Boy, you got my attention.
I was saying to myself "Nooooo, Not the Fuseblock King!!!!
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Old 05-17-2006, 02:24 PM
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Definitely sounds like something that I need to order!!!!
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Old 05-17-2006, 04:02 PM
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Definitely sounds like something that I need to order!!!!

I need to install mine, I have been lazy about finding the fuses needed.
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[Unless you want your electrical system to function 150% better! ]

I installed mine last night....took an hour - *maybe* - and I was being careful and taking my time so as not to mix up the wires. I had my new fuses ready to go, a bottle of water on hand since the garage was kinda toasty, and my iPod hooked into some little speakers on the garage shelf. First, I did the left...numbered all the wires top & bottom, just like his website suggests, and then removed the old block. I screwed the new one in, installed new fuses, and conneceted new wires. Followed the same procedure for the right side bank, and when all was buttoned up, I turned the key (not all the way on, but just so that the electrical system was working).

All I can say is WOW!!! My dash lights were brighter, the windows went up and down faster, and since my radiator fans are hard-wired to be on all the time, I heard them as well - even my fans were spinning faster!!!

"This is incredible," I thought. "How can one little product make such an immediate, noticeable difference?!"

Although I haven't had an opportunity to go for a drive yet, what I saw in the garage last night was enough for me to be convinced that these are an item that EVERY 308 on FChat *must have.* It's just silly not to.....

My sincerest thanks to the Birdman for making these available to the Ferrari community at large. Even in "specialty" car markets (i.e., Ferrari, Porsche, Corvette) the older cars are often overlooked by the aftermarket community as being "not worth their time." It's so great to know that there are people out there continuing to make new, improved products for our cars.

THANK YOU!

Aaron

PS - Sorry about the title, Birdman...just couldn't resist. If someone finds this thread via a search in the future, though, they'll surely click on it and be met with yet another glowing review of your fuseblocks.
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Old 05-17-2006, 08:10 PM
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Had me going too!

Mine are working great in my '77....

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Old 05-17-2006, 09:09 PM
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Ah, good... Didn't mean to give anybody a coronary, but I *did* want to draw as much attention as possible to my VERY POSITIVE feedback on the blocks, and figured a little trickery might be just the ticket.

Just a quick response to a couple of the posts:

1) I *completely* forgot to disconnect my battery! I.e., right up until about 30sec. before I posted this, the thought had not crossed my mind. Doesn't seem to be any harm done, though.

2) I almost did the same deal as previously mentioned where I would swap the wires onto the new block one-by-one and save myself the labeling step. I'm really glad I didn't do this... I'm sure all of the wire lengths are different from car to car, but there were definitely a few on mine that [i]just barely[/b] were long enough to make it over the connectors and onto the new fuseblocks. Had I still had the originals in place, there would've been no way, and I'd have had to backtrack and start over.

I would just suggest going ahead and doing the labeling... If I did both blocks - from opening the car door to closure - in an hour, I probably spent 5-10 minutes at most doing the labeling. I just used masking tape and a pen - easy on, easy off (the tape, that is).

Finally, if you are going to buy the blocks and have the crazy idea to not label anything, take all the wires off, and just hope that they "hang" in the order that they were positioned, DO NOT. They don't. They come out of the dash in a big, wadded, bundle o' wires held together by a tie-band. For example, the wire that (when hanging freely) is furtherst to the left might not go to the #1 fuse - it could go to #3, or all the way to the right at #9. It's just best to play it safe, do the labeling, and be done in an hour instead of 50 minutes....

Best regards to all, and thanks again!

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Old 05-17-2006, 09:42 PM
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Is there a similar item out there for the Mondial 8 fuse box? If so, where can I get it, or will the one Birdman lists for the 2V injected 308 work?
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Old 05-17-2006, 09:54 PM
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Is there a similar item out there for the Mondial 8 fuse box? If so, where can I get it, or will the one Birdman lists for the 2V injected 308 work?
Go back up to Post #4 of this thread - something about a circuitboard...
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Old 05-18-2006, 07:47 AM
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Unfortunately the Mondial fusebox contains not just the fuseholders, but the relay board all in one, with a multi-layer PCB under it all. It would be a pretty significant undertaking to build a new Mondial fusebox and one would have to sell it for around $400 to make it worth it. I'm not sure there are enough people that would be willing to buy one that you could recoup the investment in having PC boards made, etc.

The 308 fusebox is very simply by comparison.

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Old 05-18-2006, 08:42 AM
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I was lazy as well installing my fuseblocks- I took detailed digital photos and just moved one wire at a time.
You should also change out the 20+ year old relays as well. About $100 total for all of them at RockAuto.com.
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Old 05-18-2006, 11:01 AM
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I was lazy as well installing my fuseblocks- I took detailed digital photos and just moved one wire at a time.
You should also change out the 20+ year old relays as well. About $100 total for all of them at RockAuto.com.
I was wondering about those relays... Ah, well - I'll save those for another day.

Oh...I also thought I'd mention (again, for future reference) that the AGC fuses I used to replace the 8, 16, & 25s were 7.5, 15, & 25. Pretty damn close...
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