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Old 09-08-2011, 09:47 AM
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How old or how many miles were on it?

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Approx 2,000 miles. It was on the car when I purchased it from the previous owner.

I have not and would not use a Fram filter. Period.
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no more fram

This was the reason for my low oil pressure.

Backk to Baldwin and all is good.

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After sitting for 9 hours overnight I started the car and it took 2.8 seconds for the oil light to got out (Baldwin Filter) With the Fram filter it was 5.7 seconds

I've attached a photo of the filter, notice it is NOT the "-1" type / or is it ? .... no standpipe???
PH28041 on my filter and others show PH2804-1
I don't understand - - -


I will cut it open tonight and see what the insides look like.

ALSO: The oil pressure sending unit if "AFTER" the filter? Correct???
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...I've attached a photo of the filter, notice it is NOT the "-1" type / or is it ? .... no standpipe???
PH28041 on my filter and others show PH2804-1...
It looks like they just changed the printed labeling on the outside (I don't remember seeing the multiple languages before) -- but your surgery will reveal all...

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...ALSO: The oil pressure sending unit if "AFTER" the filter? Correct???
Yes -- see the figure on page C2 in the 308GT4 WSM.

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Old 09-08-2011, 12:19 PM
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I love how after Paul's two totally bizarre but oddly efficacious posts, everybody goes back to dryly discussing the filters as if no injection of possibly brilliant lunacy had occurred.
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In any scientific investigation, you throw out any extreme high OR low results, as "variants"....

I did like the pole dancing part....

I'm sending in these girls, to clean up all the spilled oil....
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:28 PM
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...and here, she's going to tighten up your sending unit a turn or two.....
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Now, start it up again, and let's see what we have .........
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And I do from time to time get those yellow arrows too. But only after squeezing the air valves.
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HOLY CRAP ! ! !

Thanks BigTex, your diagnosis and conclusion are CORRECT.

After the girls cleaned up the oil and the other lady tightened up my sending unit the pressure comes up before I can press go on the stopwatch.

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I noticed EXACTLY the same thing yesterday when I took the GT4 out for a drive after changing the oil (Brad Penn 20/50) and Baldwin. Pressure was the same before and after as indicated by the arrows on your post. My Fram was collapsed when I cut it apart.
I just went from Castrol 20/50 to the BP 20/50.
On my first drive, I noticed the pressure was initially running a bit higher than when the car was on Castrol. Any reason for this?
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If you mean the pressure was a bit higher on the new BP vs the old Castrol, that's common with dino oil. New oil of the same rated viscosity will be toward the high end of the rating; old oil will be at the lower end of the rating. So your new BP will be 50 wt when the engine is warmed up to normal operating temp while the old Castrol may be 30Wt (ore even less) depending on the mileage.

Syn oils do the opposite - they "wear out" toward the heavy end of the rating. Old 0W40 syn oil (for example) eventually would end up as 40wt oil; Old 20W50 dino oil would end up as 20Wt oil.
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no matter, which filter gives the best pressure readings, I have not so good experiences with Baldwin filters.
For years I used the UFI filters with no problem. Because many folks told me, how good, and slightly less expensive the Baldwins are, I tried them.
The second one I used was leaking at the base, because of a bad welding spot causing the seal not sealing properly.
I switched back to UFI and never had similar problems.
Some years ago there was a problem with the UFIs because of an improper design change which caused the base to distort and lift under pressure and blowing out the seal. But these filters have been recalled and after another design change they are reliable again.

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Old 09-08-2011, 02:50 PM
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Wonderful! more great news to digest. I suppose nothing including oil filters are ever perfect. Mistakes happen, how they are delt with is what is telling. Sounds like UFI has there stuff together. I would assume the same for Baldwin so far.
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Baldwin filters are probably the most common spin-on filters used in fleet diesel marine/land applications in the USA. They have never been a common gas engine brand and I have never seen them at an auto parts store. Don't know anything about UFI - never heard of them until I bought a Ferrari! But I have to admit that most Ferraris I have seen at local shows had Fram filters mounted...
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HOLY CRAP ! ! !

Thanks BigTex, your diagnosis and conclusion are CORRECT.

After the girls cleaned up the oil and the other lady tightened up my sending unit the pressure comes up before I can press go on the stopwatch.

Photo attached of pressure gauge after your recommendations were complete.
ROTFLMAO!

I just get a kick out of some of these threads...in one of my Ferraris the oil pressure gauge doesn't register at all, until I reach thru the steering with and 'rap' it with a finger flick.

Then away it goes!
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Old 09-08-2011, 03:11 PM
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Baldwin filters are probably the most common spin-on filters used in fleet diesel marine/land applications in the USA. They have never been a common gas engine brand and I have never seen them at an auto parts store. Don't know anything about UFI - never heard of them until I bought a Ferrari! But I have to admit that most Ferraris I have seen at local shows had Fram filters mounted...
This is indeed true, I go the the East Side and stand around a Peterbuilt shop to get all my Baldwins.
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