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  1. Patrick Dixon

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    #1 Patrick Dixon, Jun 14, 2016
    I'm looking to buy a new one of these as I think it will be more cost effective than trying to retrim the existing one, can someone point me in the best direction to look?

    The one on Superformance will do at a pinch, but it doesn't quite look the same as my original Momo one.

    I'm in the UK if that makes a difference.
     
  2. PDB

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    #2 PDB, Jun 14, 2016
    The Superformance steering wheel looks identical as far as I can tell to the one on my '74 GT4.
    Did the steering wheels change design during the life of the GT4?

    Paul
     
  3. godabitibi

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    #3 godabitibi, Jun 14, 2016
    Except the SUPERFORMANCE doesn't have the MOMO engraved in it.
     
  4. dm_n_stuff

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    #4 dm_n_stuff, Jun 14, 2016
    Probably because they don't want to get sued by MOMO.

    On the other hand, buying a NOS one eliminates that issue.

    Ferrari 246 Dino Original Momo Steering Wheel Solid Spokes | eBay

    But it does raise the ante just a bit.

    Best maybe to live without the MOMO? Save the original wheel and put it on when/if you're headed to a concours, otherwise drive with a nice replacement steering wheel.

    I bought a replacement some years ago that HAD the MOMO logo on it, I just can't recall where. It was about $1000.00. Oh, I think I remember. I may have purchased it from La Scuderia Rossa, and I would not recommend doing that now.

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  5. sltillim

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    #5 sltillim, Jun 14, 2016
    recover the original. Probably a lot less than you think!
     
  6. PDB

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    #6 PDB, Jun 14, 2016
    I've just had to go out to the garage and check my steering wheel as I didn't realise mine had MOMO engraved into the vertical spoke. :)

    Paul
     
  7. 2281GT

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    #7 2281GT, Jun 14, 2016
    I've got that one from Superformance and it is NOT quite the same.
    Keep the original and restore it.


    Best wishes
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  8. dflett

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    #8 dflett, Jun 14, 2016
    +1 Assuming that its only the leather that is the issue, I would either restore or recover. My leather was nasty when I bought the car but I restored it very well with the Leatherique kit (yes I lost the white stitching but I can live with that for now)

    Much nicer than a reproduction wheel in my opinion.

    Before and after shots can be seen here for those interested in the Leatherique kit: Steering wheel re-dye ? 308 Restoration
     
  9. Patrick Dixon

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    #9 Patrick Dixon, Jun 14, 2016
    The photo of the Superformance one looks like the leather is more matt and more padded, the stitching more white than mine, and as you say it doesn't say 'momo'.

    I can probably get momo engraved on it fairly easily, so if that's the main differnce I'll probably go for that.

    The trimmer I spoke to didn't think the stitching style would be easy to replicate and thought the padding would be a problem if he tried to remove and replace it. The alternative was to pad over it lightly. But at four grand (even in USD) I think I'd prefer to leave it original and use something less worthy for day to day.

    246s are nice little cars but the market for something that's not as nice to use as a 308gt4 is just a joke ;-)
     
  10. francisn

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    #10 francisn, Jun 14, 2016
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    Patrick

    My GT4 came with a replacement Momo Prototipo steering wheel which is pretty much identical to the original but with a slightly thicker leather rim which does in fact make it a bit easier to grip.

    Luckily the car also came withe the (rather worn) original wheel which I may or may not one day restore. I have seen examples of the worn leather very effectively restored.
     
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  12. sltillim

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    #12 sltillim, Jun 14, 2016
    This is a great way to go about it.
     
  13. Patrick Dixon

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    #13 Patrick Dixon, Jun 14, 2016
    I guess you'd be 88 on that speed display if it weren't for the thing in front of you ....
     
  14. Patrick Dixon

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    #14 Patrick Dixon, Jun 14, 2016
    Looks a nice result.

    I am restoring a Daimler's (the Jaguar Mk2 V8 one) seats with furnitureclinic products (which sound very similar) and it works very well. They have splits and all, but can still be made serviceable although not new.

    But since the rest of the 308 interior is being renewed, the steering wheel will probably look a bit out of sync.
     
  15. antoninosavoca

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    #15 antoninosavoca, Jun 14, 2016
    The steering wheel in the picture is not as the original,the gt4 steering did not change in the years , the superformance steering is just identic to original.
     
  16. francisn

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    #16 francisn, Jun 14, 2016
    You are right. It's a long time since I looked at my original wheel. Maybe I will restore it and swap them over.
     
  17. BigTex

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    #17 BigTex, Jun 15, 2016
    All the original ones are.
    There is also a Date Stamp on the back, that matches your car..

    I vote for a recover also....lots of places do it.
     
  18. ABCA

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    #18 ABCA, Sep 8, 2016
    Hi Francis,

    As a first poster would you please do me a favour? Could you please take a measurement on your old wheel?
    I'd like to know the distance between the two parallel stitching lines.
    The one I'm working on this week arrived in a bits (cover separated and in bits) so can't work this out
    Thanks in advance, your kind help will greatly appreciated.
    Rgds
    AB
     
  19. francisn

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    #19 francisn, Sep 8, 2016
    Hi AB

    Not exactly sure what measurement you mean, but happy to help. PM me your phone no and we can discuss it. Or we can meet and I can show you my wheel.

    I'm in Twyford

    F
     
  20. 19633500GT

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    #20 19633500GT, Sep 8, 2016
    Send it to Mark Wallach in NY

    I'm very good friends with the gentleman who bought his business, tho he still assists, and Mark's considered the NorthEast authority on steering wheel rebuilds (IMHO)
     
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    #21 francisn, Sep 8, 2016
    I'm sure Mark does a great job but there is a certain reluctance from over here to send irreplaceable items that far away.

     
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    #22 19633500GT, Sep 8, 2016
    Understood. Sorry I didn't look at the location before posting my post.

    Best


    Ken
     
  23. Patrick Dixon

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    #23 Patrick Dixon, Sep 9, 2016
    I've bought a Superperformance one for the time being, which looks quite nice. Not sure I'd want to sent to the US as customs etc is always a bit of a faff, so will look to find someone in the EU in the next year or two before the shutters go down and we go back to the dark ages.
     
  24. ABCA

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    #24 ABCA, Sep 9, 2016
    Thanks for your kind response Sir!
    I'm a newbie here, can't send PM ( probanly because I have not enough messages yet (could not find this on your profile either).
    I'm at M4/J11 Sat late afternoon, Sun would be great.
    Regards
    AB
     
  25. ABCA

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    #25 ABCA, Sep 9, 2016
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    This is the distance I'd like to know (here is 11mm but look wide a bit for me).
    Theres an original cover (i'm sure it's not off this wheel because it's so loose on it) not good for any reference.
    Hopefully images attached
    AB
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