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  1. absostone

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    1 Are the rockers painted satin black or rockgaurd from factory? Or no? I have seen photos both ways
    2 is the rocker seam under the door exposed or filled over?
    3. Are the front and rear valance of the car supposed to be satin black up to where they end to meet the fender or quarter seam? I've seen all kinds
    4. Is the rear valance seam that meets the quarter panel exposed or filled in? Mine is exposed up to where it meets the bumper then part of it is filled in. Mike
     
  2. absostone

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    In case your wondering 1975 308 gt4 early build #43. When I bought it in 2001 it was Avorio Safari with boxer. Which was done at dealer per updates of the era. Though it is verified by maranello as a solid Avorio Safari build. I did a bare metal and painted it silver. I took a few hundred photos of every step of the job back when digital cameras where the thing. Well now I can't find any of the pre primer photos. So many details have been lost.
     
  3. Patrick Dixon

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    The sills (rockers as you call them) can be black or body colour. Mine (76) were originally body colour but when the car was repainted blue they went black. It's now silver again and they are back to body colour.

    I don't know if it is a date thing, or a colour thing, or just the individual car, but AFAIK both variants are correct. I think black sills makes the car look a bit narrow in height compared to body colour. A light colour paint might accentuate that.

    I think the valance follows the sill. I don't know about the seam colour.
     
  4. absostone

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    I agree the black makes the car look narrow. Looking back on photos it seems as if most of the euro cars did not have the black rockers. As far as the valance to rear wing seam and the seam under the door what I meant is if it is filled in prior to paint. On the rear valance in perticular I have seen photos both ways
     
  5. absostone

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    well if there are no more GT4s out there I guess mine is worth more than any other Gt4
     
  6. absostone

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    Any one have photos of the rocker panel under the door? Rear valance to quarter panel seam?
     
  7. 2281GT

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    Sorry, but my GT4 is a boxer trim, so defenitely black.

    Just kidding.

    Not Boxer trim GT4 has to have bodycolored under the doors and at the rear. Only the front-insert around the grille has to be satin black on Series 2 cars, NOT on Series 1 cars.
     
  8. absostone

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    Ok even though if yours is boxer can you see the seam under the door or is it smooth? What year is your car ?
     
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    #9 2281GT, Dec 20, 2016
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    Wich seam you are talking about ? See picture attached ...
    The left one (under the rear fender) or the right one (under the doors/rocker)

    Production date of my GT4 #15112: October 1979
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  10. absostone

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    Yes the one on left is one of them. But the one on the right side a pinch weld. If you move over to the right some more directly under the corner of the door where the rocker meets the quarter panel. Is there a seam there?
     
  11. absostone

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    Car is in bodywork stage. Rocker panel seam is filled or exposed? Please help
     
  12. Rosey

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    I believe the finish of the sills is the same semi gloss black stone chip finish on the 328.
     
  13. absostone

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    yes thx I'm aware that on some cars it is, and others is body color, on a gt4. I'm asking about the rocker panel under the door ,if the seam is visible where it meets the rear quarter panel or not, Thx
     
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    Sorry, out of my area of expertise.
     
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    If I understand your question, the rocker panel seam where it meets the rear quarter panel is seen. The seam is below the surface of the panels. When the seam is flush it is one of the ways you can tell that the rocker panel has been replaced, albeit incorrectly by having the seam filled in. My driver's side rocker panel is original and has the seam. The passenger side rocker panel has been replaced and the seam filled in. One of the corrections I'm going to do this summer. After I'm thawed out from winter.
     
  16. absostone

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    ok the rocker seam is there from the factory. on some cars it is visible and on others it is not. It is my guess that it should be filled over since there are no other seams visible in the body. Do you have photos of the two sides?
     
  17. absostone

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    Grazie Antonio your rear quarter is partially filled just like mine. Bur your rocker seam is exposed. very interesting. and I see you have a rock guard coating. I would think that the rocker seam should be filled and smooth since there are no seams on the car. I lost all my photos from the paint job in 2001. Now the other question why are some cars with a painted rocker and others not? Btw my car is a 75 us early. thx for the fotografie
     
  18. antoninosavoca

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    I don't know why some cars have painted rocker and others not , for sure the first ,paris show car , had black painted rocker, i bought mine in 1982 and it was original with black rockers,many years after the car was resprayed , as in original shape.
     
  19. Patrick Dixon

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    It doesn't have now

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  20. antoninosavoca

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    It must have! I have a picture of Paris show (from Ferrari le granturismo by Prunet) where painted rockers are well visible.
     
  21. absostone

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    I didn't remember #7202 to have painted rockers. Also the production cars had differences that the show car did not. Wrinkle finish valve covers, coolant tank, gauges in different locations, etc
     
  22. antoninosavoca

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    Sorry , ,the Paris show car,had painted rockers(look at Antoine Prunet 's book "Ferrari le granturismo " page n.400) there is the gt 4 picture at Paris showing painted rockers.No doubt.
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  23. absostone

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    Antonino I just look on revlib, Stanford university, photos from the original photographer Ludvigsen and it is a solid car no strechia nera
     
  24. antoninosavoca

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    Hi friend , in Prunet's book it is different , i will post picture soon , (car in Paris show saloon)
    ciaAntonino
     

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