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  1. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    #1 Dr Tommy Cosgrove, Jun 5, 2005
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    Why do I have a 105 stamped in the little paint chip peek window on my car? It's not a paint code # because mine is 901/C (metallic black) and I have known the car since it was new and it has always been metallic black. Anybody know?
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  2. thecarreaper

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    i dont have a clue , but man is that cool! i never knew about that until i saw you post it in the other thread. the pic is super cool!
     
  3. Mike C

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    #3 Mike C, Jun 5, 2005
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    I don't know either. Mine shows "287" in the original metallic maroon paint chip window. How that number relates to the official paint code, which is "Fer-306/C" as printed in my original Owner's Warrantee/Service Book, I have no idea.
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  4. Rock

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    It is the 105th built. Some earlier cars have an " A " after the number indicating its a usa model.

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  5. Mike C

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    In its model (GTS vs GTB) within its year or within a series? If so, there should also be some folks out there with 1, 2 (or at least one or two leading zeros) or 4 digits in theirs.

    Let's see em!
     
  6. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    I never knew this. So my car was the 105th 1984 308 built or the 105th 1984 Ferrari built? This is interesting.
     
  7. Mike C

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    Tommy, what's your VIN serial? My '84 is 51887. Let's see how the spread compares to our stamped numbers.
     
  8. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    50045

    This is really cool. It's not everyday we find out something new about these cars. I wonder if this is mentioned in Keith Bluemel's "Original Ferrari V8" book.
     
  9. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    That puts mine 921 ahead of yours. By the way mine is Jan 84 (specifically Jan 30th)
     
  10. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    I don't think mine is the 105th 1984 Ferrari. That would mean the first Ferrari for 84 would be approximately 49835 and I know that's not correct. There are other 84 models with lower serial #'s then that. I guess that means it's the 105th 308.

    We should sticky a thread to fill in this info.
     
  11. Mike C

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    So our punched numbers are 182 apart. Hmmm, for 83-85 there were a total of 3,042 QV GTS, which would average only 85 cars per month. Even if you add in the 748 GTBs that gives a new total of 3,790 or an average of 105 per month. Mine is May 84 so FEB/MAR/APR/MAY is 3 to 4 months (I don't have the exact day of the month for mine) at 60-85 cars per month to get the 182 quantity spread in the imprint numbers. That could indeed work out for that particular time period, especially if it's just 308GTS QV cars, though it's on the low side.
     
  12. gil308

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    Amazing! I just thought it was a fault in the black paint. I never thought to lift the flap. My 1985 308 has #125. Someone call the factory, PLEASE, and get some clarification on this. I would, but my Italian is noto so goodo :)
     
  13. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    I am beginning to think VERY few people know there is a number hidden in that spot. I do not think it is on earlier 308's, at least not in that area.
     
  14. Darolls

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    The only F-car I have here now that I can check is my 84 gtb. The # is 6 and it was manufactured in Feb. 84.

    Sorry I can't check my other cars.

    I doubt the number means its numerical order of manufacture(I've never heard this before), but then again, I could be wrong.
     
  15. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    It could still be possible. It could be the 6th GTB for 84. That is the only way it could make sense now considering mine is 105 and Jan.
     
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    My '85 is #125, built in Sept. '84. So, Doc...I doubt only 25 cars built between yours and mine. On the other hand, per my father-in-law who is a car dealer, a manufacturer can call any car built after Jan 1 the following year's model. So, ex: A Chevrolet built on Jan 1 2005 can be called a 2006. THus, my 1985 308 built in 1984. When is Ferrari's cutoff for the model year?

    So, I guess Doc's theory could still hold true if , for ex, Ferrari changes "years" in June, mine could be the 125th 308 built for 1985, or the 125th US 308, or throw in GTS and the numbers could work out.

    Very interesting. Can't wait until an expert chimes in...I hate guessing...I WANT THE TRUTH (And yes, I can handle the truth ;) )
     
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    I'd like Rock to cite his/her reference to this matter.

    It's intriguing, but not earthshattering.

    But now my curiosity is piqued!
     
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    It's known as the assembly number. It refers to the number of that model built.. so 308QV assy # 105 is the 105th of all built. No matter what spec/destination.

    What's more amazing is that the little flap of paint hasn't broken off long ago!!

    Modern Ferrari (from 348) have a proper plaque with the Assy number AND another with the Chassis #. parts orders often need only the assy number, or both.

    The assy number on older cars is written on many of the parts. Inside trim panels most noticably.....
     
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    THe model year must come into play, right? Doc's 84 308 QV is #105 and my 85 308 QV is #125. Certainly more than 20 QVs were built between January 1984 and September 1984.
     
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    Right, since my May '84 QV GTS is #287, HIGHER than yours but obviously way before chronologically. Yours must be after resetting for 1985 model year.
     
  21. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    How could Darolls have a #6 GTB QV a month after mine was built? (unless it has 2 other digits that are just dirty and covered)
     
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    Different models (GTB / GTS)???? maybe numbers start at 1 for each model built with many more GTS built than GTB's.
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  23. 4re308

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    Hi everyone, just wanted to jump into this conversation. My car is also a 1984 308 QV, with a May 84 production date, serial # 51665. I think the numbers we are chatting about are the assembly numbers. My car is # 268. I think Gerald Roush once told me that those are the assembly line numbers.

    Hey Mike, pretty cool how close our cars are! Both our cars are May 84 308s!
     
  24. kare

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    Ferrari has used separate assembly numbers since mid 60's or so. It is not quite clear what these number stand for, but it is commonly believed to be a running number of cars in final assembly. What is the s/n of your #125?
     
  25. Mike C

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    Yep, very cool. Just 19 assembly numbers apart being within the same calendar month, but 111 sequential serial numbers apart on the VIN (my understanding is that they only use every other number -- odd nums -- for our VINs?)
     

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