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Found a damaged wire. Please help me identify it.

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  1. Badabing!

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    #1 Badabing!, Oct 19, 2014
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    So, today's plan was to replace the spark plug wires and try to find the source of a fuel smell / leak.

    Got the wires done and was moving on to the fuel smell.

    I decided to remove the driver side engine bay cover and was dismayed to find this damaged wire.

    It's got 3 wires, blue, green, and a reddish brown.

    I'm not sure if its oem, it's zip tied along the left side of the car from the back by the charcoal canister (I think) disappearing into the firewall as shown in the pictures. All the zip ties make me think its not factory.

    I'm not sure what its connected to at either end.

    I put a white "tracer" in some of the pictures to help illustrate the path or identify which wire I am referring to.

    Once we figure out what it is/does, should I repair the existing wire or replace the whole thing?
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  2. ernie

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    #2 ernie, Oct 20, 2014
    It seems to disappear under the gas tank, and under the charcoal canister. You may want to get under the car, remove the gas tank cover and se where it goes. Same thing for under the charcoal canister.
     
  3. phrogs

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    #3 phrogs, Oct 20, 2014
    Oh zip ties are most defiantly factory.
     
  4. drbob101

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    #4 drbob101, Oct 20, 2014
    That zip tie not even trimmed is a PO thing for sure.

    Can you trace where it goes on the left rear area? Is it a rear camera?
     
  5. Badabing!

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    #5 Badabing!, Oct 21, 2014
    I tried to follow it but it goes into the area where the charcoal canister is. I tried to remove the cover around the canister which appears to be held on with one simple bolt.

    Of course there is a nut behind that bolt which is not captive and spins free. I swear, everything is a PITA on this car. I didn't have anything that could reach and hold the nut. So now I can't further loosen or retighten the cover.

    I don't think it's a camera as there is no display in the cockpit.

    I can't get under the car as Ernie described because its not drivable to a lift due to the fuel leak and I'm not getting underneath there when the car is being held up by harbor freight jack stands.

    I might be able to see what's going on if I remove the left rear wheel arch liners.

    If anyone knows what that wire is before I go through all that I would sure appreciate it.

    Or if anyone has or could take their left side cover off and could see if they have a similar wire running in the same way, then I would know its OEM and just repair the damage area and get back to my regularly scheduled programming.

    It's a 97 gated GTB just in case it makes a difference
     
  6. drbob101

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    #6 drbob101, Oct 21, 2014
    I hear you on the non captive nuts. The same issue exists on the right sub panel on the Cat ECU boxes. There are 9mm nuts on the bolts that hold them that are a royal PIA to hold and wrench if trying to remove those ecu.

    In working on the air pump and removing that subpanel to do it I discovered that it is much easier to remove that subpanel and then remove the ECUs than trying to remove the ECU and I will be doing that in the future if necessary.

    I have not removed that left assembly but I bet you have the same situation over there. The canister was attached to the subpanel and then the subpanel installed in the car at assembly. Have a look and see if there arent 2-3 11mm bolts holding that subpanel in and then you can remove it and see where that wire is going from above.
     
  7. ernie

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    #7 ernie, Oct 21, 2014
    I was gonna suggest control wire for a power antenna, but looking at your pics you don't have one. I will be shocked if that wire is "factory" especially with the zip ties.
     
  8. SoCal1

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    #8 SoCal1, Oct 21, 2014
    Electric wires attached to the fuel canister hose , a classic screw up.

    Not a factory routing job of a wire pure amature did it

    Get it away from fuel fumes hoses asap, can you say time bomb
     
  9. lotusk

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    #9 lotusk, Oct 21, 2014
    Badabing

    I recently removed the charcoal cannister to replace it and that electric wire is NOT on my m2.7 gts uk spec.
    I took off the subpanel without a hitch btw.
    I'm sure the wire is not OEM ....

    Let us know what's what.
     
  10. 166&456

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    #10 166&456, Oct 21, 2014
    While it is better to have a distance, saying this is timebomb is quite much. I can advise you not to look at how the fuel pumps in your car are hooked up.
    It's not time to call the bombsquad just yet!
    As long as the circuit is properly fused there is nothing to worry about.

    It's most likely a siren wire for an alarm.
     
  11. SoCal1

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    #11 SoCal1, Oct 21, 2014
    I am just being the Drama Queen I am to get a point across:)
    Simply put, if any one of my guys ever attached a wire or anything else to a fuel hose of any kind would be immediate dismissal from the building with a size 12 deep in their backside. Huge liability.


    :)
     
  12. Badabing!

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    #12 Badabing!, Oct 21, 2014
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    #13 tbakowsky, Oct 21, 2014
    I'm thinking old school radar dectector reciver.
     
  14. Badabing!

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    #14 Badabing!, Oct 21, 2014
    You might be onto something there!

    The car has a K40 system installed!!
     
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    #15 drbob101, Oct 21, 2014

    Now your cooking...
     
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    #16 SoCal1, Oct 21, 2014
    Go for it LOL
     
  17. phrogs

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    #17 phrogs, Oct 24, 2014
    I'm not saying that zip tie was factory, but they did use zip ties to hold wiring on the 355.
    Sorry for that confusion. I didn't see that full zip tie before.
     
  18. Badabing!

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    #18 Badabing!, Oct 25, 2014
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    Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

    Unfortunately I don't know where or how this thing was mounted lol.
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    #19 ernie, Oct 25, 2014
    Well where did you pull it out of?
     
  20. Badabing!

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    #20 Badabing!, Oct 25, 2014
    It was mounted somewhere in the vicinity of the charcoal canister but the receiver came loose from wherever it was secured before I got a chance to see how it was mounted.

    Edit: I see it peeking through in the fifth picture in my original post. You can see some red text rear of the charcoal canister behind some wires.
     
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    #21 tbakowsky, Oct 25, 2014
    I have ripped out more of those things then I care to count. Never mind the aftermarket stereos. Crazy how some people wiring things up.
     
  22. Badabing!

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    #22 Badabing!, Oct 25, 2014
    Aftermarket stereo coming out next lol.

    Already have the OEM Becker ready to go in courtesy of an Fchatter.
     
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    #23 emac, Feb 15, 2015
    Ressurecting an old thread...

    Badabing, I just found the antenna for the K40 detector rattling around in the front right brake air duct! I thought it was a big rock at first.

    Oh the 90's and radar detectors. I was an Escort user with the back up CB, until the V1 came along.
     

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