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New 348/Mondial T Waterpump at Ricambi America

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  1. Ricambi America

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    #1 Ricambi America, Oct 19, 2016
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    I'm running out the door to catch a performance at my son's school, but want to post up this way-cool (pun intended) waterpump that we've just received into inventory:

    143275 WATER PUMP (348/MOND T) REPRO - Ricambi America, Inc.

    These are designed by a fellow Fchatter, and of similar quality to our 355/360/550 pumps that he also supplies to Ricambi America.

    From the manufactuer "The impeller is a proprietary design eliminating stock design deficiencies which see inherent cavitation (little or no coolant flow) issues especially above 5000rpm. Bearing quality and longevity was tested for multiple hundreds of hours, both in and out of test bed cars, at varying side loads above that of its intended use as well as pressure and heat loads to simulate the most grueling conditions. As an added protection, the casting is anodized to help eliminate moisture from affecting or entering the bearing area."

    We have a limited stock available immediately, with more on the way.
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  2. SoCal1

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    Nice

    I am always in search of cavitation

    Thats the reason I run clear sight tubes

    I will be ordering one soon I have a list somewhere of stuff I need
     
  3. c7matt

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    WOW, wish this was availble 4 months ago! had to pay quite a bit more than $450 for an OEM pump. Great looking part.
     
  4. ernie

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    I love it! It's so purdy.

    That impeller is a WAAAAAAYYYY superior design to the original. The plastic impeller on my original pump ended up breaking. No worries about that with this impeller.

    Outstanding price too!
     
  5. Ferraripilot

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    Hi all. I am incredibly pleased these are finally available. We went through 4 prototype stages, mainly experimenting with impeller designs until the 4th iteration (above) yielded results we were pleased with. CFD, testing, and road testing were all used.

    Make no mistake gents, these are a legitimate upgrade and not just for coolant flow. With this type of impeller design there is less load to the engine to run the pump, especially at higher rpm. Energy required to drive the pump is not very different from 5000rpm as 7500rpm. The old straight vane design impeller has a very linear energy cost up the rpm range, but this modern design tapers off around 4500-5k rpm saving about 50% overall energy.


    With the 355 engine and all engines forward, Ferrari swapped to this design for good reason. It pleases me to no end we have not only upgraded an incredibly important component, but have also brought it into the realm of something anyone would consider adding during a major minus reservations due to the sobering cost of an OE unit, or just to add one at any time as they truly are that beneficial.
     
  6. AceMaster

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    Terrific job, and terrific price too.

    Thank you for this.

    I did my major last April, but for my next one you can bet the bank that I will be getting one of these.
     
  7. ghardt

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    #7 ghardt, Oct 20, 2016
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    Daniel, do you know if the bearing was made in the USA? Brand of bearing?
     
  8. Ferraripilot

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    SKF bearing from the EU
     
  9. vvassallo

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    Great new product. Next engine out I'm in.
     
  10. itsablurr

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    Beautiful. Wish it came on the market a few months earlier for my service :).

    Is it a virgin casting based around the SKF bearing, or a modified core? Still advised to change with every major, or is it a longer anticipated interval with the spec of this pump?
     
  11. Ferraripilot

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    New virgin castings, new proprietary bonded seal, new everything. Tested to the hilt.

    We have many hundreds of hours testing these things and can say the bearing is better than OEM as the type of grease used in the bearing is more robust, but because these engines have SO much riding on the timing belt, I would replace with every service no matter what, but that's just me.
     
  12. Dave rocks

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    John, I think people would benefit from the posting of your test data.
     
  13. John_K_348

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    That thing is gorgeous. Probably as quiet as a modern Navy torpedo too. Wait, you didn't hear me say that. Awe no worries, I didn't "intend" to compromise national security. Back on point. That thing is wicked.
     
  14. cf355

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    very nice
     
  15. cf355

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    +1
     
  16. AceMaster

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    That is a good idea.
     
  17. Ferraripilot

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    Sorry guys. Not posting our data. This was a very pricey component to develop and manufacture so I am not giving away that data under any circumstance let alone for free.
     
  18. AceMaster

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    Results from testing?
     
  19. Dave rocks

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    John,

    I was not asking you to give away any of your design secrets - my apologies if you took it that way.

    It is very common when people say one product out performs another to show how - often with life-cycle testing. I guess I don't understand why saying it went through X cycles before failure would be giving away anything.
     
  20. Ferraripilot

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    I have outlined the concept of how it works and why it works and that Ferrari themselves changed to this design with all future models, not to mention every major manufacturer on the planet uses a scroll type impeller for the same reasons. Sorry guys but that is the limit of what I will divulge.
     
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    #21 Dave rocks, Oct 21, 2016
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    Just yesterday I received a call from a large Aerospace company who has interest in one of my patent products. He was interested in some load data as it's a clamping device.

    His questions were fair and reasonable and we have the data but we've just not had a chance to post it.

    We had taken several units to a test lab and blew them up. I was happy to provide the customer those results as it does not give away any secrets to my design - in fact, it helps sell the product :)

    Best of luck on your venture, John. It does look nice and perhaps I will get one of your pumps for my 355
     
  22. Ferraripilot

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    Definitely do that. I offer a better warranty than OEM on all my stuff as I know for certain what we make is superior, and thankfully with hundreds of installs I have yet to see a failure.

    Thanks all!
     
  23. Dave rocks

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    Happy to consider it for the 95 355 I'm rebuilding, John. But, I'll need data to convince me :D :) :cool:

    That's just the engineer in me :)
     
  24. Ferraripilot

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    No big, plenty speak for its superiority. Or just buy one install it, you will be pleased. Ferrari and the entire automotive industry using this type of impeller design are not doing it just because it looks cool. Showing my specific test results (other than guaranteeing it is unequivocally superior and parasitic energy to drive the pump is notably lower) is completely out of the question though, as an engineer you of all people should know that's not worth nothing and what I am stating absolutely makes sense when comparing to the archaic OE design.

    Best to all, and enjoy this fall weather. I hope everyone is driving and not busy restoring an old car like me, during this perfect weather.....
     
  25. Dave rocks

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    I'm a bit of a purist, John. Also, when it comes to purchasing anything aftermarket, I rarely do so without supporting data. Someone saying it's better does not prove to me it's better :)

    I don't understand your reasoning at all because I can't understand how providing information to support the integrity of the design would in anyway hurt you - it would help IMHO. Of course, posting propriety design details, materials, etc is a totally different story and I fully support, respect, and appreciate that.
     

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